Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:40 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
On MSNBC, 4 Dem Senators call for Franken to resign
Ugh, this is very bad. We're going to lose a Senate seat it looks like. Franken gets railroaded by suspicious allegations, while Trump and Moore get no consequences.
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OliverQ | Dec 2017 | OP |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Dec 2017 | #1 | |
OliverQ | Dec 2017 | #2 | |
exboyfil | Dec 2017 | #3 | |
Bengus81 | Dec 2017 | #11 | |
Roland99 | Dec 2017 | #4 | |
Trumpocalypse | Dec 2017 | #5 | |
OliverQ | Dec 2017 | #10 | |
bagelsforbreakfast | Dec 2017 | #6 | |
OnDoutside | Dec 2017 | #18 | |
Bengus81 | Dec 2017 | #7 | |
Baitball Blogger | Dec 2017 | #8 | |
FarPoint | Dec 2017 | #9 | |
CrispyQ | Dec 2017 | #12 | |
madaboutharry | Dec 2017 | #13 | |
BannonsLiver | Dec 2017 | #16 | |
BannonsLiver | Dec 2017 | #14 | |
OkieLib41 | Dec 2017 | #15 | |
OnDoutside | Dec 2017 | #19 | |
brooklynite | Dec 2017 | #17 | |
moondust | Dec 2017 | #20 | |
Demsrule86 | Dec 2017 | #21 | |
OliverQ | Dec 2017 | #22 | |
Demsrule86 | Dec 2017 | #24 | |
OliverQ | Dec 2017 | #27 | |
Demsrule86 | Dec 2017 | #23 | |
hexola | Dec 2017 | #25 | |
nini | Dec 2017 | #26 | |
peggysue2 | Dec 2017 | #28 | |
Kimchijeon | Dec 2017 | #29 |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:41 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (107,036 posts)
1. It's ridiculous, but we won't lose a Senate seat if it happens.
Our Dem governor will appoint a Dem replacement, possibly Keith Ellison. But it's absurd, and I hate it when Democrats stab other Democrats in the back.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:42 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
2. Well that's hopeful at least. I'm not familiar with MN politics
and your Governor.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:42 PM
exboyfil (17,600 posts)
3. What not a hearing
Let the women tell their story and let Franken respond. Then make a decision.
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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:46 PM
Bengus81 (6,682 posts)
11. You'd think one of those women would shout they'd be willing to take a lie detector test...
Just to prove her allegations against Franken aren't BS.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:44 PM
Roland99 (53,066 posts)
4. Time for encompassing hearings. But only after Moore is elected, if he is
Then include his sorry ass or it’s a no-go
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:44 PM
Trumpocalypse (6,143 posts)
5. What 4? nt
Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:46 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
10. Gillibrand, McCaskill, Hirono, and I forget the 4th but it's a woman.
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:44 PM
bagelsforbreakfast (1,427 posts)
6. Two posts on this and no one names the 4 dem senators? Nm
Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Reply #6)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:53 PM
OnDoutside (19,708 posts)
18. This fits most of Frankens "accusers" being anonymous too.
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:45 PM
Bengus81 (6,682 posts)
7. Hell....any real investigation or even a lie detector test??
Or just take it all at face value?
"It's my right as an entertainer" Such BS............ |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:45 PM
Baitball Blogger (45,241 posts)
8. Fuck them.
They are just trying to take pot shots at a progressive Democrat.
Does anyone have transcripts for those four Senators to see what kind of fight they put up in the Senate? |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:46 PM
FarPoint (11,499 posts)
9. Democrats will not get any financial or grassroots support from me...
I'm done battling when they sit pretty and the surrender....
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:46 PM
CrispyQ (33,888 posts)
12. This is partly how we lose. We look weak & eat our own.
Where are the dem voices demanding that Trump step down? This is a GOP plot to unseat one of our bulldog senators & we have party members helping them. And we're the smart party? Not sure I believe that anymore.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:48 PM
madaboutharry (38,609 posts)
13. Minnesota has a democratic governor.
Gov. Mark Dayton (D) would appoint his replacement. He could choose Rep. Keith Ellison as his replacement, whose name has been mentioned.
I'm not saying that I agree with this statement, but it is difficult to see how Sen. Franken survives this. |
Response to madaboutharry (Reply #13)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:51 PM
BannonsLiver (14,899 posts)
16. Except for the little problem about what happens after that.
There would be a special election. Minn is trending Repub. Odds are the seat will eventually flip.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:50 PM
BannonsLiver (14,899 posts)
14. The GOP slime machine says jump. Dems say "how high?"
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:50 PM
OkieLib41 (39 posts)
15. I dont get it...
I’m not condoning anything Al Franken has done allegedly. However, there’s a difference between groping and the shit with Moore and Trump are accused of doing. I’m trying to figure out the end game these senators are trying to do? Have a blanket policy that if a person feels that made them uncomfortable, then you need to resign? This deal that the Democratic party feels that they should always take the high road on EVERYTHING is why the Repubs are running the country into the ground! Sometimes you have to fight bully and not turn the other cheek.
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Response to OkieLib41 (Reply #15)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:55 PM
OnDoutside (19,708 posts)
19. It gets rid of a 2020 competitor ? What goes around comes around...
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:52 PM
brooklynite (85,596 posts)
17. BREAKING: Gillibrand, Hirono, McCaskill, Murray, Harris, Hassan call on Franken to resign
(all women)
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:55 PM
moondust (19,048 posts)
20. Must let Minnesota voters decide!
That's how it works, right?
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:08 PM
Demsrule86 (65,536 posts)
21. Name them.
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #21)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:09 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
22. Already did, try reading.
Response to OliverQ (Reply #22)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:11 PM
Demsrule86 (65,536 posts)
24. What a nasty comment...
I have few posters on ignore..but you made a very small list...I love to argue and discuss but don't care for needless snark.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #24)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:15 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
27. Your post sounded snarky against me.
"Name them."
Seemed like a rude order. You could have politely mentioned you didn't see their names mentioned. |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:10 PM
Demsrule86 (65,536 posts)
23. Never mind. I see who they are ...damn...was hoping a couple would run for president...won't vote
for any of them now in a primary.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:13 PM
hexola (4,835 posts)
25. Must be something damning in the pipeline...
This seems sort of abrupt, considering ongoing drip...
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:15 PM
nini (16,632 posts)
26. Have the investigation now and put this to rest
I'd bet that investigation exposes some right wing interference. He deserves his day ' in court' here.
Q#%$&%#&^($^(& |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:22 PM
peggysue2 (9,770 posts)
28. Unless these 4 know something we don't . . .
I don't see how this resignation call makes any sense. Not all sexual harassment claims are equal. Al Franken does not = Roy Moore or the Trumpster, for that matter. What Franken did (groping/acting like a frat boy) the man owned up to and apologized without excuses. Women currently working for Franken--his aides and others--have said they've received nothing but respect and support from the Senator.
So what am I missing, other than a pointless purge? |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 01:23 PM
Kimchijeon (1,606 posts)
29. Fuck these fascist enabling simpletons
Going along with the wave of McCarthyism and committing suicide just like the lying trolls wanted. Shit like this is why so many hate on the "spineless liberal" - Stand up and call this fake shit what it is - FAKE.
We get what we fucking deserve if they railroad him out. He is one of the few who actually has the guts to speak out. What utter garbage. |