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babylonsister

(171,049 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:42 PM Nov 2017

Senate Parliamentarian Ruling Sends GOP Searching for New Tax Tweak



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Senate Parliamentarian Ruling Sends GOP Searching for New Tax Tweak
Tax increase ‘trigger’ would violate Byrd rule, Perdue says
Posted Nov 30, 2017 6:10 PM
Ryan McCrimmon


A violation of Senate budget rules sent Republicans searching for new solutions in their tax overhaul effort, Thursday night.

Sen. David Perdue said the GOP tax plan will not include any revenue “trigger” mechanism because it was found to violate Senate budget rules, but senators are instead discussing putting an automatic, future tax increase into the bill instead.

The Georgia Republican said the trigger mechanism, an idea pushed by Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., would have resulted in a “Byrd rule violation,” according to the Senate parliamentarian. The so-called Byrd rule is a part of the budget reconciliation process Republicans are using to pass a tax code overhaul.

The decision sent Senate Republicans scrambling to find a way to address concerns from several of their members over the bill’s possible impact on the federal deficit.

“They’re going to solve the problem another way,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said. “I feel confident that if there’s a shortfall in the projections that there’ll be a mechanism in the bill to deal with the deficit.”

Graham said Corker, R-Tenn., has a new proposal that “everybody seems to like.”

Sen. John Cornyn said the size of the future revenue increase Corker is seeking has grown from $350 billion, the previous number on the table. The Texas Republican said he thinks Corker has “latched on” to a new analysis this afternoon from the Joint Committee on Taxation that found the GOP tax plan would lose around $1 trillion in revenue over 10 years, even accounting for resulting economic growth.

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Senate Parliamentarian Ruling Sends GOP Searching for New Tax Tweak (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2017 OP
Give it up, repube pirates Achilleaze Nov 2017 #1
Flake and Corkers excuse for voting for this thing is out standingtall Nov 2017 #2
To suspend any rule means back to rules committee, debate, delay, then back to Senate etc. Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #5
I thought the Vice President was the Presiding officer standingtall Nov 2017 #7
Trigger for revenue without stating where revenue from...seems kind of desperate. Given Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #3
I'm dealing with my projected shortfall by dumping stocks in the morning Deb Nov 2017 #4
Some jobs are done fast gratuitous Nov 2017 #6
Air Melber said McCain is now saying that BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #8
cobbled together Horizens Nov 2017 #9
I think half-assed works here; they seem clueless. nt babylonsister Nov 2017 #10
Oh, you caught that, did you? gratuitous Nov 2017 #11

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. Give it up, repube pirates
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:43 PM
Nov 2017

You and your evil empire* russian comrades should just give it up, and leave America alone.

* per ronald reagan

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
2. Flake and Corkers excuse for voting for this thing is out
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:47 PM
Nov 2017

the window probably. Wouldn't surprise me though if they can't get Flake and Corker to vote for this without it. That they will suspend the Byrd rules and vote for it anyway.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. To suspend any rule means back to rules committee, debate, delay, then back to Senate etc.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:54 PM
Nov 2017

Republicans could be fucked.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
7. I thought the Vice President was the Presiding officer
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:59 PM
Nov 2017

over the parliamentary rules. If it goes back to rules committee's repukes control those too. They are going to screw us anyway they can.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. Trigger for revenue without stating where revenue from...seems kind of desperate. Given
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:52 PM
Nov 2017

the CBO report and two Financial Committee reports including one with voodoo "dynamic scoring" and the math still adds up to a massive violation of reconciliation 10 year no increase in debt rule.

And Byrd rule prevents an end around. Real pickle.

Deb

(3,742 posts)
4. I'm dealing with my projected shortfall by dumping stocks in the morning
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:53 PM
Nov 2017

How are you all solving your projected shortfalls?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Some jobs are done fast
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:54 PM
Nov 2017

Others are done half-fast. This Senate bill appears to be one of the latter jobs.

I wonder if "regular order" McCain will go along with the re-tooled bill if one gets cobbled together?

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
8. Air Melber said McCain is now saying that
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:04 PM
Nov 2017

his health care vote based on "procedural grounds" is somehow different from the Tax Scam "procedure". I think he pretty much said that McCain is a hypocritical tool.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
9. cobbled together
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:06 PM
Nov 2017

That's exactly what they're doing. Trying to put together and pass any POS legislation that enriches the top 1% at the expense of every one else and set up huge deficits that will be used as an excuse to destroy Medicare and SS.

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