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Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:15 PM

Rubio: Tax cuts 1st Step in Raiding Soc Security & Medicare to Pay off Deficit Caused By Them

"Many argue that you can’t cut taxes because it will drive up the deficit. But we have to do two things. We have to generate economic growth which generates revenue, while reducing spending. That will mean instituting structural changes to Social Security and Medicare for the future,” the senator said.

https://www.fa-mag.com/news/rubio--offset-tax-cuts-by-reducing-social-security--medicare-benefits-35928.html

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Reply Rubio: Tax cuts 1st Step in Raiding Soc Security & Medicare to Pay off Deficit Caused By Them (Original post)
CousinIT Nov 2017 OP
lame54 Nov 2017 #1
octoberlib Nov 2017 #2
Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #3
Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #4
Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #12
Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #5
sadiegirl Nov 2017 #6
Volaris Nov 2017 #7
NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #9
Volaris Nov 2017 #10
yallerdawg Nov 2017 #8
CentralMass Nov 2017 #11
0rganism Nov 2017 #13
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2017 #14
flamingdem Nov 2017 #16
Blue_true Nov 2017 #15
wiggs Nov 2017 #17
bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #18
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #19
CousinIT Nov 2017 #20

Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:16 PM

1. I hate that SOB

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:18 PM

2. That's the plan. It's always been the plan. Makes me sick.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:20 PM

3. Thanks fucking Trump voters

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:23 PM

4. it will hurt them also-------they just can not see it yet

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:44 PM

12. The GOP will blame the DemocRATS, and Trump voters will continue to vote Republican til they die

And they will die. They will die from lack of education, nutrition, jobs, housing, and medical care. But they will still be happy knowing the other side “lost”

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:24 PM

5. Any pile of money they see, must belong to them. nt

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:25 PM

6. Except they could do this better by raising taxes and it wouldn't hurt people.

 

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:30 PM

7. Nope that's bullshit. SocSec doesn't add one thin dime to the debt,

As it's self - funding and always has been. The reason that there's a problem is because spineless congresses' figured out that it was politically easier to raid that fund, than to raise taxes for shit they wanted to buy. If I remember correctly, if we paid back the entirety of the Debt tomorrow, a rough third would go to China, and wholly another third would go right back into the SocSoc fund. The GOP doesn't wanna pay it back. Because they're cheapskates.

And we need to start saying that EVERY TIME one of these degenerate motherfuckers says what he just did, because anything else is bullshit cause it just ain't True.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:34 PM

9. yep

I was just about to post the same...In fact, borrowing from the Social Security surplus has kept the economy afloat since Reagan. Remember Al Gore's lockbox idea that was mocked by republicans?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:40 PM

10. Yep. Cause if he had been listened to, it would have required raising taxes.

If we decided, tomorrow, that we were actually goint to
start paying down the debt and everybody had to kick in, the general populace would destroy the Republican party in about 36 hours, because we KNOW who should pay that back and who shouldn't (because we know who it was used to benefit).
In another 36 hours, the top tax corporate tax rate would be 70%
And the Rich fucking know it.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:32 PM

8. "Small enough to drag it into the bathroom...

and drown it in the bathtub."

First cut taxes and revenue.

THEN tell us we can't pay for services - like Social Security and Medicare.

Or- we can turnout for the freakin' Democrat next time!

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:41 PM

11. We have about 42 million people living in poverty. The number of homeless people in many major citie

is staggering.

I think we are heading for some very dark times ahead for many people in this country if the GOP gets it way on this.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:45 PM

13. yep, it was about 15 years ago when i figured out my generation wouldn't get SS or Medicare

Rubio & co need that money for their rich friends to invest overseas.
people who will need SS or Medicare in 25+ years aren't the GOP's core constituents. they couldn't care less.
welcome to "prosperity", Republican-style. everybody go get some Ivanka shoes and a MAGA hat for Christmas.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:20 PM

14. These guys are so brazen, they don't care who knows it.

"We're going to f*ck your mother and your sister, your kids and your grandkids (Social Security and Medicare), and just for kicks your goldfish (via lead in the water in Flint), and there's not a damned thing you can do about it, because, y'know, gerrymandering, voter suppression, helpful Russians."

By the time the country folk get angry enough to grab their pitchforks, there won't be anything left to save. The Repugs will have remade the country in their own image, to please their corporate masters.

They are in the process of turning five year administrative judges into lifetime positions appointed by guess who. That will add more than 400 Federalists to the bench for the next 40-50 years. And that's on top of the 100+ federal judgeships the GOP held open during President Obama's term so a Repug could fill them. We will have moved from the Shining City on the Hill to the Pit of Hell.

Donnie Two Scoops isn't the problem -- he is a symptom of the problem. It's like a magic trick. He distracts the audience with his crazy while the actual trick is being performed elsewhere.

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:46 PM

16. The media is not exactly putting the facts out there either

Too many of them - corporate and rich individuals - will benefit

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:33 PM

15. My red area of Florida is a big Social Security area.

SS and Medicare are responsible for more than 70% of the economy if doctors, hospitals, nursing homes and assisted care businesses that serve aged people are counted. Rubio and Trump won this part of Florida, both will have issues if they attack SS and Medicare.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:54 PM

17. What are people thinking? And why can't dem leaders get traction on this issue? nt

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:04 PM

18. They'll never generate economic growth once people tune them and their businesses out

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:15 PM

19. Oh, God. This is going to ruin lives. Literally. Some will die w/o Medicare...

and without cancer treatments through Medicare. People counted on it, planned for it.

We HAVE to get Dems in control of Congress again. We must.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:44 PM

20. Does anyone remember what America was like BEFORE social security & medicare?

Well guess what: we're going BACK. TO THAT.

And it was PURE. HELL. People retired - and that meant simply and in 80+% of cases, they became paupers. And they DIED if they needed healthcare. They were DESTITUTE.

Republicans think THAT was the "good old days" before all that "socialism".

Too many people are ignorant IDIOTS.

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