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Franken, as with Clinton is being attacked by the hypocrites. (Original Post) Dawson Leery Nov 2017 OP
kick Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #1
Bill Clinton was an asshole flotsam Nov 2017 #2
Unfortunately, he's being defended by quite a few of them too. meadowlander Nov 2017 #3
Let's not compare him to Clinton Azathoth Nov 2017 #4

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
2. Bill Clinton was an asshole
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:56 AM
Nov 2017

who violated vows between himself and his wife. It hasn't thing one to do with Al Franken and it would be a mistake to pair them.

meadowlander

(4,393 posts)
3. Unfortunately, he's being defended by quite a few of them too.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:00 AM
Nov 2017

Can we please just be grown ups and acknowledge that unwanted sexual contact is always a bad thing but that there are obvious degrees of "badness" and the response should be proportional to the harm done? He should apologise. He did. She accepted. If there is no risk of reoffending, no other accusers, no harm done in office, no pattern of bad behaviour, then it should be left to the voters to decide if they still want Franken representing them.

Not that hard is it? Do we really have to go to "well, she's a slut", "well, she's a conservative", "well, they do it too", "well, it was just a kiss", "well, getting consent is just too complicated", "well, it was a hundred million years ago and people in 2006 didn't think about consent the way we do now"?

The reason we need to hold onto our integrity and moral consistency in a case like this is the next time a Republican gets caught doing this, anything we say in defense of Franken is immediately going to be thrown back in our faces.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
4. Let's not compare him to Clinton
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:03 AM
Nov 2017

The Clinton allegations total up to something far, far worse than anything Franken is accused of.

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