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Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:32 PM

Try groping someone through a flak jacket.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
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Yep, it's like groping your refrigerator.

IT'S A GAG PHOTO.
Look closely.
He's mugging for the camera.
You can see the shadows of his hands on the jacket.
If he were actually TOUCHING the jacket there would be no shadows.

Oh yeah, his accuser has appeared on Hannity and works at a right wing talk station. Just sayin'.

Got my Nomex long johns on.
Flame away.

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Reply Try groping someone through a flak jacket. (Original post)
trof Nov 2017 OP
50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2017 #1
ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #4
50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2017 #14
ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #15
50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2017 #28
Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #42
50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2017 #46
Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #48
MountCleaners Nov 2017 #75
awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #25
ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #31
lame54 Nov 2017 #2
.99center Nov 2017 #22
rzemanfl Nov 2017 #3
Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #41
rzemanfl Nov 2017 #45
SandyZ Nov 2017 #47
trof Nov 2017 #44
spotthebird Nov 2017 #82
underpants Nov 2017 #5
Puzzledtraveller Nov 2017 #71
Phoenix61 Nov 2017 #6
Post removed Nov 2017 #7
awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #27
Pugster Nov 2017 #54
IronLionZion Nov 2017 #53
flotsam Nov 2017 #8
Marengo Nov 2017 #10
flotsam Nov 2017 #13
Marengo Nov 2017 #16
moriah Nov 2017 #37
Marengo Nov 2017 #66
pnwmom Nov 2017 #24
ksoze Nov 2017 #9
Nevernose Nov 2017 #17
Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #21
trof Nov 2017 #50
trof Nov 2017 #23
pnwmom Nov 2017 #26
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #55
pnwmom Nov 2017 #65
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #79
pnwmom Nov 2017 #80
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #81
spotthebird Nov 2017 #87
pnwmom Nov 2017 #89
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #90
spotthebird Nov 2017 #83
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #85
spotthebird Nov 2017 #86
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #91
bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #11
Hortensis Nov 2017 #38
Marengo Nov 2017 #12
trof Nov 2017 #32
bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #74
Hekate Nov 2017 #18
hlthe2b Nov 2017 #19
Cattledog Nov 2017 #20
B2G Nov 2017 #30
Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #49
awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #35
tblue37 Nov 2017 #72
madinmaryland Nov 2017 #29
trof Nov 2017 #34
sarisataka Nov 2017 #33
trof Nov 2017 #39
sarisataka Nov 2017 #51
trof Nov 2017 #57
Skittles Nov 2017 #63
Cattledog Nov 2017 #73
panader0 Nov 2017 #59
sarisataka Nov 2017 #67
Adrahil Nov 2017 #84
sarisataka Nov 2017 #88
Squinch Nov 2017 #36
XRubicon Nov 2017 #58
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bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #43
trof Nov 2017 #56
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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:34 PM

1. These are getting painful to read.

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:37 PM

4. Then don't read them!

Pretty simple to figure out. Have a great day.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:41 PM

14. I won't after I develop psychic powers to know what a post says before I click on the link to it.

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:42 PM

15. The OP did have a header

Not hard to ascertain where the thread is going. Just sayin'.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:50 PM

28. Since groping through a flak jacket didn't appear that difficult from the photo I saw,

no, I didn't know.

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:58 PM

42. Except he's not touching her so maybe you didn't look at the photo that closely.

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #42)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:02 PM

46. It appears he EASILY could have, in the fraction of time the photo shows.

And it looked creepy as hell. Even pretending to grope a women's breasts (through a flak jacket or whatever she was wearing or not wearing) is disgusting. Franken looks creepy as hell in that photo.

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #46)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:04 PM

48. He is supposed to look creepy and it is supposed to be a joke. It's very obvious it's a joke.

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #48)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 10:04 PM

75. Woman and feminist here....

It does seem to me to be a gag. I'm not defending it - it is puerile and stupid - but from the look on his face it looks like he is pretending to be a creep.

If someone did that to me, I'd be annoyed but I'd hardly feel assaulted. An apology should suffice.

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:48 PM

25. Lordy

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:51 PM

31. Pretty Much

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:34 PM

2. tell that to CNN and MSNBC...

no one there can manage to see that

they are roasting him on a spit

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Response to lame54 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:46 PM

22. We can see the shadows on our tiny smartphone screens

But CNN can't see them on their 50' screen...

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:36 PM

3. Of course it's a gag photo. What I want to know is whether it was taken on an airplane. n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:57 PM

41. The photo in question appears to be the interior of a Boeing C-17 Globemaster

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #41)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:59 PM

45. Thank you Buzz. Some people have been saying it was a skit. n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #45)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:03 PM

47. The skit was about the kiss. The photo is the woman sleeping, on plane and mock groping.

 

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:59 PM

44. Yes, according to reports they were on their way back home.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:21 PM

82. Hold your head up while asleep sitting up

She wasn't even asleep, so why does she say she was?

Why was she the only one wearing military protective gear?

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:37 PM

5. True but he did the right thing today

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Response to underpants (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 08:18 PM

71. Al is handling better than we are.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:37 PM

6. I was thinking the same thing

I think it was a joke. That being said, in extremely poor taste. Apparently, Al thought the same thing or he wouldn't have apologized.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:50 PM

27. Good question comrade

Maybe you'll get the answer to your question on Breitbart.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:13 PM

54. I get it. I believe the woman, therefore I'm Russian

 

Seems logical.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:09 PM

53. What is the custom in your country, comrade?

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:38 PM

8. The guy was a comedian...

...trying to be funny.

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Response to flotsam (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:40 PM

10. Did she consent to be the object of this type of humor?

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:41 PM

13. We don't know

We may get an idea if they can locate the photographer.

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Response to flotsam (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:43 PM

16. Someone who claims to be the photographer said she did, but so far no one else has, including

 

Franken.

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Response to Marengo (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:54 PM

37. You mean, "A Twitter account already outed for disinformation on Politifact...

... said that, without naming the photographer or claiming to be the photographer, and combined the posed picture with a picture of her from modeling work in a way that looks suspiciously like slut-shaming, which would certainly be embarrassing to have retweeted as a liberal if later proven untrue as well", right?

Sorry. I haven't found anything else other than that on the subject, and the previous out on sharing something allegedly pro-liberal that also was false makes me very wary. Especially combined with what could be seen as suggesting something negative about having a nice enough body for people to like to look at in a bikini, and daring to model in one....

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Response to moriah (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 08:05 PM

66. Yep, thats the one being promoted as indesputable proof she gave consent.

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:48 PM

24. That's to be determined. And there were two other witnesses: the photographer

and the man sitting on the right side of the photo.

If the whole photo was a gag, and the woman was only pretending to be asleep, they probably know.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:39 PM

9. It may be a gag, but she wasn't in on it

It may have been a staged gag photo, but evidently she was asleep at the time. The fact he didn't actually touch her is irrelevant. If he took the photo and stuck his manhood in her face, the fact he didn't actually touch her wouldn't matter?

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Response to ksoze (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:43 PM

17. But he didnt do that

So your point is completely moot.

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Response to ksoze (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:46 PM

21. Whipping out your junk and waving it in someone's face

Is NOT the same thing as a feigned grope.


Sorry, it's just not. Just like stealing a candy bar is not equivalent to murder.

When you talk in absolutes it diminishes your argument

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:07 PM

50. Exactly

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Response to ksoze (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:47 PM

23. Uh...if he'd actually whipped it out...

that would be jest a leetle different.
jeez

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Response to ksoze (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:49 PM

26. She could have been in on a gag. It's not hard to close your eyes for a photo.

It also appears that she's wearing eye makeup. Do soldiers usually do that on missions?

But there are two people who can clear this up: the photographer and the man sitting on the right side of the photo.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:15 PM

55. Shes not a Soldier on a mission

 

She was a USO entertainer on a tour to entertain troops. Makeup would be perfectly normal.

But if your down to attacking her credibility because she was wearing makeup....

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 08:04 PM

65. She was an entertainer who could have closed her eyes as part of a gag. Right? n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #65)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 07:32 AM

79. At this point she says shes asleep and he doesnt say it was a gag or she consented

 

That people are willing to dig up excuses for this picture that even Al doesnít offer or claim to be true is pretty sad. It shows the lengths some people will go to discredit a victim when they speak up if they like the person accused- making claims even the person accused does not offer up.

Had it been a gag she was in on I am sure Al would have said that in his statements. That he didnít says that itís not the case even from his perspective, so if the victim says thatís not it and the accused attacker doesnít say thatís the explanation anyone else offering that possible explanation- unless they were there- is just making up stuff to try and smear a possible victim of unwanted sexual conduct.

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #79)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:39 PM

80. It happened 11 years ago. My impression from his statement was that he didn't remember

the event clearly. But there have been reports that others who were there said it was a gag -- which makes sense because the shadows on the flak jacket make it appear that he wasn't actually touching her, and because he couldn't have felt anything through a flak jacket anyway.

We know there were at least two other people: the photographer and the man sitting on the right side of the photo (though many outlets cropped him out). If they do have an investigation, hopefully they'll be able to talk to them.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #80)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:15 PM

81. Nobody has said it was a gag she was aware of and in on

 

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Except random anonymous twitter accounts some of who also have pushed fake news in the past.

At this point there is nobody named or with any connection or legitimate place to know saying it was a gag.

Repeating claims of fake news purveyors and random unnamed twitter accounts as having credibility or possibly being accurate is irresponsible and how the Russians and others are able to make fake news spread so widely.

You have fallen for it and put doubt in your mind based on no more than a few random anonymous tweets.

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #81)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:43 PM

87. As to the photo, it was clearly intended to be funny but wasnt. I shouldn't have done it. nt

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #81)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:49 PM

89. You have fallen for the idea that anybody could be groped through a flak jacket,

which offers the protection of a bullet proof vest.

The photo is obviously a joke -- a stupid, sophomoric joke, for which he was right to apologize.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #89)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:52 PM

90. I havent fallen for anything

 

The gesture and act is just as irresponsible and disgusting if she was asleep in a bikini, a flack vest, a burqa or anything else.

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #79)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:24 PM

83. Have you ever fallen asleep on a plane or in a car without a neck pillow?

Al's first statement did say something about a bad joke.

Hey, he want's a hearing, I hope he gets one very soon.

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Response to spotthebird (Reply #83)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:32 PM

85. Ive actually been asleep in that exact same kind of plane in body armor

 

Literally Iíve been in that exact same position she was there- side seat on a C-17 in body armor and fast asleep.

So yes, I have. And if one of the Soldiers I worked with or anyone else did that to me when I was asleep I would NOT be ok with it. Itís demenaing sexually dominant based ďhumorĒ down at the expense of the divinity of the person.

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:39 PM

86. It takes discipline to hold one's head up while asleep

What do you believe Franken did? Are we looking at the same picture? Are we supposed to ignore the photograph in favor a fictionalized version of what people want to see? I see a vulgar gag, absolutely no contact, much less a grope.
As a military expert, can you explain how someone is groped through a bulletproof vest absent any contact with even the garment?

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Response to spotthebird (Reply #86)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:58 PM

91. Let me use small words and see if you can understand

 

People sleep all kinds of ways. Those seats are almost straight up in back and in a helmet that is up against the body of the aircraft is not an unlikely position. But what do I know, Iíve just done that exact thing before.

But to the bigger picture. I never said she was groped.

The picture alone is bad enough.

It is simple.

iT IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE TO PRETEND TO GROPE A WOMAN WHO IS ASLEEP.

Period.

End of story.

Itís not funny. Itís demeaning, itís posturing yourself in a position of sexual dominance. Itís a gross objectification of a woman as nothing more than a pair of breasts that only exist for men to amuse themselves with. If you think itís funny you think itís funny to sexually demean women.

It doesnít matter that the picture doesnít show contact. There is nothing at all ok or acceptable about what he is doing. Period.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:40 PM

11. For god's sake think of Sean Hannity! Won't someone think of Sean Hannity!

 

This has Stone and Bannon all over it.

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:54 PM

38. Stone knew about it before she came forward.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:41 PM

12. Did she consent to be the object of this gag?

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:52 PM

32. Actually, she did.

Al woke her briefly and said "Leeann, is it OK with you if we take a gag photo that looks like I'm trying to grope your boobs through your flak jacket?"
She replied "JESUS Al, YES! WHATEVER! Go bother Franny. Just let me go back to sleep."

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Response to Marengo (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 10:00 PM

74. So now Trump has to consent before they can shoot SNL?

 

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:44 PM

18. Thank you. The VRWC is going to try to kill us dead one way or another...

The media and everybody else jump up and down at the latest shiny object, completely bypassing any thought process or fact checking. Again.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:45 PM

19. While I admit it was meant in a comedic way, that doesn't take away from its inappropriateness...

That's the problem. But, i hear your frustration that there are some in the media and on the RW in particular who will actively conflate this with the overt sexual assault and even pedophilia of Moore and others.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:46 PM

20. How did she get the photo?

Who gave it to her ??? She showed it to Hannity years ago as he admitted on his radio show today. Word is it was taken on her own camera as a joke. Sometimes jokes go bad. Franken has admitted this.

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:51 PM

30. She addressed that.

 

She was given a CD of pictures from the tour after returning home and that's when she saw.it.

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Response to B2G (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:06 PM

49. If they didn't think it was a joke and it really was a picture of Al groping her...

 

was it really a good idea to hand that picture of her on a CD. To hand her the 'evidence'. It really is becoming clearer and clearer.

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:54 PM

35. Wait...

as he "admitted"? What a strange way to phrase it.

Hannity, the bastion of truth.

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Response to Cattledog (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 09:16 PM

72. She says she didn't tell anyone about it until now, so Hannity is lying to lend credence

to the narrative that she was upset back then.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:51 PM

29. Dude! I grope my refrigerator all the time. I love it.

Grab stuff out of it all the time.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:53 PM

34. NO NO NO. Door CLOSED only!

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:52 PM

33. Doesn't matter if she was in plate armor

If she was in on the gag and agreed then it is consenting adults

If not then it was inappropriate

Period.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:56 PM

39. Sez you

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Response to trof (Reply #39)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:07 PM

51. I'm not going to do

Ethical contortions to excuse actions of someone I admire and have voted for. Either she agreed to the photo or she did not. Clothing does not change anything whether bikini top, flak jacket or parka.

By all, except one questionable, account it was inappropriate. Apology was rendered and accepted.

For me, the matter of the photo is closed. If witnesses come forth saying all parties agreed then I will change my opinion.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:21 PM

57. Revelation: Sometimes gags are a bit tasteless.

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Response to trof (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:44 PM

63. when guys papered my locker with centerfolds

I papered their lockers with nekked pics of men, full-frontal hairy

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Response to trof (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 09:28 PM

73. +1000

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:34 PM

59. So if a person is wearing "plate armor" as you say, and someone

touches that armor, that is groping?

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Response to panader0 (Reply #59)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 08:09 PM

67. I know some ladies

That are in the sca and wear fully functional armor. If you were to walk up and grab their chests in the such manner you would be receiving a slap from a hand in a metal gauntlet

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:30 PM

84. True, but there is a "but..." attached to that.

 

Yes, it was inappropriate. Franken has admitted that. But the fact remains it WAS a gag, and that is different from actually attempt at sexual gratification from healing her breasts up.

It doens't make it right, in the least, but it IS different.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #84)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:44 PM

88. Agreed

There are degrees of inappropriate and the actions of one person in no way exonerate any greater or lesser actions of a different person

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:54 PM

36. Nope. Doesn't make it OK. She was used as a prop for a sexual gag, apparently without her

consent, though I hope to be proven wrong on that.

Not OK.

His response is very, very good and seems to me to be quite sincere. I'd trust my young nieces with him, of course, and the same can't be said for Moore and Trump, of course. But still, the gag was not OK.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:27 PM

58. I agree with you and I am pretty sure he agrees with you

"For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by itówomen who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me."

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Response to XRubicon (Reply #58)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:39 PM

61. If it turns out the photo was taken without her consent, I really will find iit repulsive in a

creepy frat boy way.

But, paradoxically, because of his statement I will have more faith in him than I did before. He clearly gets what he did wrong. I anticipate he will be a really loud voice against that kind of shit, and an effective one because he can come from the point of view of "I did it, and let me tell you how creepy it is."

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:57 PM

40. It was a dumb picture. But that's all I've got so far.

The Roger Stone factor in the story has me doing a total 180 on my original reaction to the story.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:58 PM

43. Some people need to go back to the Convent. n/m

 

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:17 PM

56. No kidding.

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 10:11 PM

76. Puritanical guilt

No grope.

I wish people would stop saying that she was groped.

No grope.

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 10:13 PM

77. The problem is this tends to trivialize all harrassment - but some people (Russian bots?)

 

don't seem to care about that.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:08 PM

52. Franken's dealing with this in the correct way.

He's offering admissions of inappropriate behavior and apologizing for it.

And he's still got my support for President in 2020.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:38 PM

60. That picture is rediculous, it's obviously a gag photo, if he is even touching the jacket

it's only very lightly and how can you grope someone through a flak jacket. Was this back when he was working as a comedian?

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Response to doc03 (Reply #60)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 07:40 PM

62. Yep, '06 or '07

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 08:15 PM

68. I would never reach my hands toward anyone like that

they could be wearing a suit of medevil armor. Perhaps a lapse in judgement on Al's part and being too relaxed in his art which was comedy and sketches.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #68)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 08:18 PM

70. OK, if it was a suit of medevil armor that would be different.

Especially if it were a three piece suit.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 08:18 PM

69. I wear one hard to grope I agree

Only if it has armour on it, those don't look like they do but hard to tell.

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Response to trof (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 10:16 PM

78. Trolls gotta troll

I miss the granite cookies..

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