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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn time, do you think the public will largely forgive Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey?
Actor Bryan Cranston seems to think so. I don't see why he would say such a thing, and I don't agree with him. Of course some people may see things the same way, but why go there now?
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/bryan-cranston-weinstein-spacey-deserve-a-second-chance/
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)again.
Spacey is different since he is an actor so there might be someone who decides to do something and give him a job. how it's recieved by the public is another matter.
in terms of just forgiven itself that's up to the victims .
Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)Beakybird
(3,332 posts)Spacey might get another chance if he admits he's a creep, and he compensates his victims. But not that many lead parts go to older men.
Bradshaw3
(7,513 posts)Statute of limitations may save Spacey. As another wrote, it's up to the victims to forgive them, not me and not Cranston nor the movie business. Both had many years of abuse. Who gives a fuck about their careers.
Skittles
(153,149 posts)SweetieD
(1,660 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)But what I get out of that is that he's saying forgiveness is possible for those who get that they screwed up and genuinely try to make it right. It's not the craziest thing I've read today.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)where Cranston talks about people who want Trump to fail. Nothing to do with Spacey or Weinstein. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bryan-cranston-donald-trump_us_59f83594e4b09b5c2568be65
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,491 posts)As for forgiveness, it's not our place to give it. It's their victims. I wasn't slighted or attacked by either of them.
Whether they can make a comeback in film? I'm sure if the bottom line meant making money for people, it could happen. But Weinstein is so disgusting and a pariah.
Spacey is a very talented actor. With actual remorse and real efforts to make amends? I don't know if the public can forget. I doubt his victims ever will.
They've helped make a whole industry dangerous for young men and women. They deserve to be shunned from it. Part of making amends is actually living with the consequences of your actions. If they aren't willing to do that, then they aren't really "reformed."
So STFU Cranston.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)They will be off on some other crusade by then. Hollywood and people in general have a short attention span, especially if there is money to be made.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Or if not forgiven, at least the phrases "in the past", "he has apologized and gotten help" "he paid his debt" "we should move on" will be uttered to justify hiring or working with them again.
Casey Affleck still got his award, Woody Allen is still making movies, an admitted and unrepentant predator is in the WH..we as a society have a tendency to have short memories when it comes to sexual assault.
We have musicians (Chris Brown, R Kelly) and athletes who have done despicable acts, yet we are encouraged to ignore that and separate what they do behind closed doors or in bedrooms from their art or sports ability.
Freddie
(9,259 posts)He's a great actor. On TV he's still the smarmy and brilliant Frank Underwood. He's going to be one of those actors/musicians whose body of work transcends their personal foibles, in the long run.