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Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:47 PM

****NEW POLL**** Trump approval drops to 35%. No Asian trip bump !!!

"President Donald Trump returns from his big Asia trip to find numbers frozen in the negative. Ominously, there is creeping slippage in the base



American voters disapprove 58 - 35 percent of the job President Donald Trump is doing, near his lowest score, a 61 - 33 percent disapproval August 2, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

Today's approval rating compares to a 56 - 38 percent disapproval in an October 11 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University.

Independent voters, a key voting bloc, disapprove of President Trump 63 - 31 percent. Democrats disapprove 91 - 5 percent. Republicans approve 80 - 11 percent.

In a new low for this measure, only 40 percent of American voters say Trump is fit to serve as president, while 57 percent say he is not fit.

American voters disapprove 79 - 15 percent, including 60 - 32 percent among Republicans, of the way Republicans in Congress are doing their job. Disapproval is overwhelming among every party, gender, education, age and racial group listed.


https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2500

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Reply ****NEW POLL**** Trump approval drops to 35%. No Asian trip bump !!! (Original post)
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 OP
hlthe2b Nov 14 #1
sharp_stick Nov 14 #4
PearliePoo2 Nov 14 #2
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #3
PearliePoo2 Nov 14 #7
unc70 Nov 14 #5
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #6
YessirAtsaFact Nov 14 #13
PearliePoo2 Nov 14 #8
samnsara Nov 14 #9
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #11
Dave Starsky Nov 14 #21
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #22
Dave Starsky Nov 14 #23
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #24
Dave Starsky Nov 14 #25
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #28
Dave Starsky Nov 14 #30
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #33
Dave Starsky Nov 14 #36
Persondem Nov 14 #32
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #34
Persondem Nov 14 #35
Not Ruth Nov 14 #10
leftynyc Nov 14 #12
ollie10 Nov 14 #15
RDANGELO Nov 14 #14
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #16
joshcryer Nov 14 #18
Fred Sanders Nov 14 #17
ProfessorGAC Nov 14 #19
uponit7771 Nov 14 #20
SonofDonald Nov 14 #26
underpants Nov 14 #27
doc03 Nov 14 #29
Yonnie3 Nov 14 #31
wildeyed Nov 14 #37

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:48 PM

1. what poll is this?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:51 PM

4. Quinnipiac n/t

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:49 PM

2. Good! Is that Gallop? nt.

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:51 PM

3. He's at 38/57 in Gallup.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:54 PM

7. Thanks!

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:51 PM

5. The OP says Quinnipiac

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Response to unc70 (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:54 PM

6. If he couldn't get a bump from his trip what could he get a bump from ?

Starting a war on the Korean Peninsula that leads to a collapse of the world economy ?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:15 PM

13. Trump Bump

He could drop his pants and bend over in front of Putin.

Then he would be bumped repeatedly.

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Response to unc70 (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:54 PM

8. I see that now! Thanks!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:55 PM

9. these polls confuse me.. wasnt he at 33% last week?

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Response to samnsara (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:58 PM

11. Different polls. Different results. There are margins of error.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:18 PM

21. People get too hung up on exact numbers.

Trump's approval is inevitably going to vary from poll to poll. Think of Trump's real approval as a "cloud" of different poll numbers that float around the real number of people who love Trump. The center of that cloud represents the real number, which is about one out of three people that they poll: 33%.

What I don't think people take into consideration are the METHODS of polling. My understanding is that Gallup still calls people with landlines. I haven't had a landline in years. My very elderly family still uses them, though. I screen any calls that come to me unsolicited. I would hope that we all do that. I don't respond to calls from pollsters, because I didn't even know that they are calling.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:35 PM

22. Gallup calls landlines and cell phones.

I suspect they have the most sophisticated polling apparatus given their vast size and resources.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:16 PM

23. I still think they rely upon landlines.

Maybe someone here can correct me, if I'm wrong.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:24 PM

24. Gallup

Gallup Daily tracking is divided into two surveys: Gallup U.S. Daily and the Gallup-Sharecare Well-Being Index. Gallup interviews approximately 500 U.S. adults for each survey, 350 days per year with minimum quotas of 30% landlines and 70% cellphones. These large samples allow Gallup to examine extensive demographic breaks and unique cross-tabulations of the daily measures. The samples also allow Gallup to report results at state and community levels.

http://www.gallup.com/178685/methodology-center.aspx

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:31 PM

25. So where does their cellphone sample draw from?

This is very interesting to me. Do they only poll people who have given them their cell phone information?

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:38 PM

28. That wouldn't work because the sample would be self selected.

That would defeat the purpose of a random sample:

How do you get cellphone numbers to call? I thought these were unlisted.

It’s true that cellphone numbers are not listed in a directory such as the white pages. To overcome that, companies that sell telephone survey samples have to create a list of all possible cellphone numbers in the United States.

They start with the fact that certain area codes and exchanges are dedicated only to cellphones. For area code and exchange combinations that include both landlines and cellphones, additional work is done to identify the specific blocks of numbers assigned to cellphones. Once the relevant area codes and exchanges (and, if necessary, specific blocks) are identified, the sample vendors append all possible last four digits to each. For instance, if they know the 202 area code and 555 exchange within that area code are only used for cellphones, then they can add every number from 202-555-0000 to 202-555-9999 to their list. They then repeat that with every area code and exchange combination known to be used only for cellphones to create a (very long) list of all possible cellphone numbers in the United States. From that list, telephone sample vendors draw a random sample of phone numbers to be used for a particular poll.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/01/05/pew-research-center-will-call-75-cellphones-for-surveys-in-2016/


I suspect Gallup's methodology is similar.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #28)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:47 PM

30. Well, then, I'm starting to think that polls...

Do not reflect the Americans that do not want to be bothered by polling. We may hate greed, pedophilia, racism, and everything else that the Republican party represents, but maybe we don't or can't respond to polls.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:51 PM

33. Less than one in ten Americans respond to pollsters.

Pollsters are aware of selection bias and try to account for it.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:58 PM

36. Let's hope so, comrade.

Let's hope so.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:51 PM

32. FYI - 500 is not a large sample size, but I think you have copied it from their website ...

... so it's not on you.

500 is on the low end for a poll.

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Response to Persondem (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:52 PM

34. 500 a night for a rolling three day sample of 1,500

Each result is based on a three-day rolling average.

Gallup tracks daily the percentage of Americans who approve or disapprove of the job Donald Trump is doing as president. Daily results are based on telephone interviews with approximately 1,500 national adults; Margin of error is ±3 percentage points.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:55 PM

35. That sounds much better. Thank you!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:58 PM

10. Did Trump endorse Moore?

 

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Response to Not Ruth (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:01 PM

12. Yup

President Trump enthusiastically endorsed Roy Moore this morning, describing him as a “great guy” who will help to realize Trump’s goal of making America great:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/09/27/trump-just-endorsed-a-lawless-bigot-in-alabama-heres-how-democrats-will-run-against-him/?utm_term=.d964c9f2f174


Although I do suspect he'll throw him under the bus once he returns to the states.

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Response to Not Ruth (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:28 PM

15. Who endorsed whom?

Imitation is the highest form of flattery.....

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:26 PM

14. This is the polling group that were right on the nose on the margins in Virginia.

They have the Democrats with a 13 pt lead for taking leadership of the house.

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Response to RDANGELO (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:29 PM

16. This is the polling group that were right on the nose on the margins in Virginia (and) New Jersey.

FIXED

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Response to RDANGELO (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:32 PM

18. Big if true.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:30 PM

17. But, but Rasmussen(R) is the ONLY poll that counts, all others are "fake". That the

Deplorables believe that is all you need to know about their level of awareness.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:55 PM

19. And "It" Misquoted Those Results

So, they can't even use suspiciously high results to their own advantage with a modicum of accuracy.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:57 PM

20. Yep, he shows his face and people don't like it

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:34 PM

26. I don't care what his poll numbers are

Neither does Mueller.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:34 PM

27. 57% say he's not fit. That's damning.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:46 PM

29. He was bragging this morrning about a 48% poll and he said

some say it is more like in the 50s. I guess he lied.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:48 PM

31. What astounds me is that the polls haven't moved significantly after the indictments.

.. and then I think of that third of the country that either doesn't read or watch news or that gets it from Faux Snooze et. al. and I understand.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:29 PM

37. His numbers are lower than any President at this time in their term, per 538.

The percentage of unpopularity changes, depending on whether you look at likely/register voters vs. all adults because racist white people suck at life but are good at showing up on election day. Sigh.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/voters/

His numbers are also much lower than the economy would suggest.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-far-less-popular-than-the-economy-suggests-he-should-be/

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