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Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:02 AM

This is an abuse of power to go after political opponents....no choice but for Congress to Impeach



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Richard W. Painter‏ @RWPUSA
10h10 hours ago

This is an abuse of power to go after political opponents. At this point there is no choice but for Congress to impeach.


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Reply This is an abuse of power to go after political opponents....no choice but for Congress to Impeach (Original post)
riversedge Tuesday OP
riversedge Tuesday #1
Trust Buster Tuesday #2
Dark n Stormy Knight Tuesday #3
riversedge Tuesday #5
Abouttime Tuesday #8
MichMan Tuesday #30
Abouttime Tuesday #31
Dark n Stormy Knight Tuesday #32
MichMan Thursday #33
Dark n Stormy Knight Friday #35
Eyeball_Kid Tuesday #26
Bernardo de La Paz Tuesday #9
Soxfan58 Tuesday #14
Merlot Tuesday #25
FM123 Tuesday #4
delisen Tuesday #6
L. Coyote Tuesday #7
gordianot Tuesday #10
KPN Tuesday #15
tanyev Tuesday #11
Pacifist Patriot Tuesday #13
KPN Tuesday #16
orangecrush Tuesday #12
magicarpet Tuesday #21
orangecrush Tuesday #29
AlleganCarpenter Tuesday #17
Ligyron Tuesday #18
njhoneybadger Tuesday #19
ehrnst Tuesday #23
Initech Tuesday #20
ehrnst Tuesday #22
AllaN01Bear Tuesday #24
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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:03 AM

1. Sessions will be testifying before an Investigating committee TODAY

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:08 AM

2. It would represent tyranny to use the levers of government to attack a political opponent in an

Effort to distract from the Russia investigation. If this happens, a “real” revolution must commence IMO.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:24 AM

3. Off & on I've heard talk of a general strike or a consumer

purchasing freeze ( just buying basic necessities.)

Street protests can be ignored or turn bloody, w militarized cops fucking up the people. And money is one of the few things the RW cares about, so I think strikes & withholding consumer dollars may be the way to go.

If only we had the solidarity to make it happen.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:33 AM

5. Agree we need Solidarty to make it happen.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:47 AM

8. That's where our power lies

General strike, purchasing freeze, we can show 'me who's really boss if we crash the economy. Knocking 10,000 points off the Dow would get their attention!

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:00 PM

30. Yes! Millions unemployed and in poverty

Let's hope the economy crashes and millions are unemployed and homeless. Millions more retired and near retirement have their lifelong savings decimated.

Then when Trump gets blamed, we can just sit back and laugh, laugh, laugh at all of it at their expense





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Response to MichMan (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:08 PM

31. Wrong, a general strike would be a boon to the proletariat

It would hurt the 1% and the worlds elite, the average American would see little disruption in day to day life, in fact a correction in markets would likely lower consumer prices.
Once tRump is deposed and Democrats are back in charge the economy will boom just like it did in the Obama years. A short term correction is a small price to pay for overturning a stolen election.

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Response to MichMan (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:39 PM

32. Or, we can just let the 1% sit back and laugh at us and continue to

steal from the rest of us. They have stolen countless people's retirement savings already and will continue to do so in any underhanded way possible. For instance, by having the government hand them more tax breaks while taking away services and bankrupting the many of us.

The economy has been great for them for many years, while everyone else is left with a continuously diminishing share. Maybe it will take some temporary sacrifice to get the economy back to working for everyone.

If you have a better solution, by all means, share.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 12:50 PM

33. Why would you want to take out your anger on those who had nothing to do with it?

So you are hoping that someone like myself nearing retirement in 5 years loses half my savings and call it a 'temporary sacrifice" ?

I worked hard for 30 years to contribute to my 401k and didn't steal it from anyone. Yet, you are hoping I lose a significant portion of it and live in near poverty. How dare you.

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Response to MichMan (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:11 AM

35. Spare me your poutrage.

How dare you put your own self-interest ahead of the good of the nation and the very lives of millions of your fellow Americans???!!!

(Oh, and nice job purposely missing the point. You had to try real hard or be well practiced at it to accomplish that. Welcome to my Ignore list)

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:54 AM

26. The RW will frame it as a threat to national security, similar to a boycott of TV.

Indeed, it is. The whole of consumer society rests with "consuming". Without buying, the economy is immediately in peril. That's the power that "Consumers United" holds.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:50 AM

9. No. "A real revolution" not needed now & would kill many people needlessly. Please stop. . . nt

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:24 AM

14. But when you talk about distruction

Dont you know that you can count me out. J.L.

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Response to Soxfan58 (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:54 AM

25. "Don't you know you can count me in...out" J.L.

He was known to sing it both ways.

He got a lot of pushback for saying "in" people felt he held so much power and influence that if he said "in" people would actually be in.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:26 AM

4. In any other universe, impeachment would be a given....

After seeing the refusal of many republican folks in AL to denounce Moore, my fear is that even with more than enough evidence to impeach Trumpy, our republican congress will refuse.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:43 AM

6. Abuse of Dem Candidates /Pivotal Issue Big Oil & Russia

and Fossil Fuel Exploitation, Human Rights.

Political Attack on H Clinton at the Intersection of Corporate exploitation, Human Rights, Money In Politics, and Foreign Influence in Our elections.

We must not allow the abuse of our candidates to further foreign interests (Putin and Russia) or to further Republican big money contributions, or to stand in the way of the work of the special prosecutor Mueller's criminal investigation of Trump associates.

In the instance of of H Clinton - we already know that Putin was motivated to interfere with our election process because Clinton stood up to him.

Trump and pro-big oil forces want those sanctions lifted that were put in place for good reason by the Obama administration. On this issue the big oil backers seem to be in the same camp with Putin and against H Clinton and America.

I do not know where Sanders progressives stand on Russia, big oil interests, fossil fuel exploitation in Russia by American oil companies, economic sanctions and Russian attempts to destabilize Nato.

Would like to hear from the those wanting to reform the Democratic Party on these issues.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:46 AM

7. The guilty easily succumb to seize mentality. We are under attack, so anythhing is justified.

It seems like the ghost of John Birch lives in the White House now, running the HR department, making sure only paranoids get hired.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:02 AM

10. Unless 2018 brings a Democratic House the United States Constitution and rule of law is finished.

We have few checks and no balances left after the Russian coup.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:34 AM

15. You may be right about that ... and that

worries me because winning the House in 2018 means beating all the gerrymandering. I'm not sure enough R's have been turned off by Trumpism sufficiently for that to happen. They are still invested in their other ideological goals that get in the way of any sensibility whatsoever on Russia.

Scary.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:03 AM

11. No choice? Mr. Painter hasn't been paying much attention to this Congress, then.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:17 AM

13. My thought exactly.

How many impeachable offenses have they blatantly ignored now? I don't think I can count that high.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:36 AM

16. Yup!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:07 AM

12. He is destroying institutions

By using them like they're his personal toys.

Once this is allowed to happen, no one can have faith in our system of government again.

Putin's game plan.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:20 AM

21. First a coup d' etat, then a civilian junta...

But with military generals of questionable judgment in powerful cabinet positions.

Are we officially a Banana Republic yet ?

Rather than sham time consuming and cumbersome investigations against political enemies - why not assassination squads - they are far more expedient and leave behind far less documentation of the atrocities done to political opponents as they become intentionally and methodically expunged.

Fascistic and Theocratic government come to you at the speed of light. Fasten your seat belts - this is going to be a bumpy ride.

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Response to magicarpet (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:42 AM

29. Sure 'nuff.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:49 AM

17. Impeach?

As much as I want an end to this nightmare, I don't see impeachment as a way out. The process is long and tedious. Remember only two presidents have been impeached. None have been removed. Nixon resigned as the threat of impeachment loomed. Johnson and Clinton stayed their full terms.

The only answer is a clean sweep and that ain't gonna happen, either.

Possibly, the cabinet will show some backbone and get rid of the dunce. That move requires Pence's complicity. A move which may appreciated by his current owners but will not be of any benefit to democracy.

The best answer I can fathom is to elect Democrats across the board to continue to resist the hateful agenda until we have another shot at electing a young and vibrant Democrat in 2020 to go with an increasingly blue Congress.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:05 AM

18. Supposedly, Sessions is to "evaluate" the possibility of an appointment.

This is old, old shit.

There's not enough evidence to bring any charges.

Banana republic we are now.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:16 AM

19. Impeachment is off the table

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Response to njhoneybadger (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:45 AM

23. Until there are charges that are watertight. Otherwise....

It turns into another "Benghazi!"

I agree with that strategy.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:18 AM

20. They're trying to Wag The Dog on Roy Moore.

We can't let them get away with this!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:44 AM

22. They need this "scandal" to remove Mueller. Like they needed "Benghazi" to

try to throw a wrench into HRC's candidacy for president.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:51 AM

24. this is no longer the usa i once knew. its some 3d rate country now.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:58 AM

27. How is it different?

The repubs have been on a path of destruction since the Clinton impeachment and to 2000 election. Right now they are on steroids, none of this will stop if trumpft is removed, it will just slow down and have a prettier face.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:12 AM

28. At this time they are capable of any crime.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 12:57 PM

34. Ooooh, there's always a choice.

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