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Jones takes lead in Alabama (Original Post) Hawaii Hiker Nov 2017 OP
Don't get excited. sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #1
I know but to even be competitive in a state as red as Alabama Hawaii Hiker Nov 2017 #3
I know..I live here sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #5
Here's hoping Alabama goes blue for first time since Hawaii Hiker Nov 2017 #7
Are there more people that somewhat share your political views in Ala. gabeana Nov 2017 #17
just a guess sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author olegramps Nov 2017 #22
That is insulting. sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #23
It is meant to be. Republicans are an insult to America. olegramps Nov 2017 #25
just because we know who our cousins are doesn't mean we fuck them sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #27
Interesting note on that poll tparrett62 Nov 2017 #2
Yes, but almost 40% said it made them LESS LIKELY to vote for him... this all sounds good. secondwind Nov 2017 #4
Men vs women no doubt. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2017 #10
My guess (and hope) is that they think it is all made up to discredit a good man. Grammy23 Nov 2017 #9
The allegations just prove Moores innocence Nevernose Nov 2017 #11
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #12
He still needs the DNC to pour some money in it. To GOTV Thrill Nov 2017 #6
So true sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #13
I sent more money yesterday to Jones through ActBlue. That bypasses non-Jones Campaign people NCjack Nov 2017 #14
a "lead" is pretty much meaningless unless you are pulling 51% for sure Takket Nov 2017 #8
And the DNC probably will still refuse to support Jones cally Nov 2017 #15
Jones need to be above 50% mark to have a chance at all, like 53-55% level beachbum bob Nov 2017 #16
Sweet home, Alabama, bring it home for abused kids! MoonRiver Nov 2017 #18
As a believer in the true teachings of Christ... roamer65 Nov 2017 #19
A certain type of person thinks Moore is the underdog here IronLionZion Nov 2017 #21
Telling a pollster you will not support a pedophile is just what to expect from voters that support Midnight Writer Nov 2017 #24
I'd trust the "robo polls" more than live person polls DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #28
FWIW, George Will thinks Moore will lose DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #26
I have that gut feeling, too eleny Nov 2017 #29

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
5. I know..I live here
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:09 PM
Nov 2017

But I am surrounded by these idiots so I know how flippable they are. The wind direction will change and so will they.

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
17. Are there more people that somewhat share your political views in Ala.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 02:45 PM
Nov 2017

than we assume but don't bother to vote or is it real batshit RW cray cray that it looks like to outsiders?

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
20. just a guess
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 03:18 PM
Nov 2017

Batshit crazy,-30%
Can't stand the thought of an abortion ever happening to anyone anywhere 30%
Centrists from either party willing to vote for anyone sane-30%
Young progressives wanting a free education and $15/hr which will not happen here- 10%

Those first 2 overlap some but abortions and gay marriage are their battle cry.

Life is hard for dems here and moving away is not as easy as it sounds when you have a business and property.

Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #1)

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
27. just because we know who our cousins are doesn't mean we fuck them
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

And not everyone is a republican either, not that it has a thing to do with incest.

tparrett62

(268 posts)
2. Interesting note on that poll
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:06 PM
Nov 2017

29 percent of respondents said the allegations made them "more likely" to vote for him. WTF?????

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
9. My guess (and hope) is that they think it is all made up to discredit a good man.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:15 PM
Nov 2017

Surely that kind of accusation doesn’t increase his appeal?? Surely they are not THAT unwilling to even look at it dispassionately, but purely on the facts? I think they just can’t deal with the obvious conflict between the accusations and who Moore claims to be. So they have to cling to the idea that it is fake, made up rumors. Of course, if it was his opponent who was facing these accusations, they’d embrace it and happily let it sink his chances. Funny how that works, huh?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
11. The allegations just prove Moores innocence
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:19 PM
Nov 2017

Because he’s a Christian and so now, clearly, the forces of evil — Democrats, Republicans who won’t say the N word out loud, and the owners of large businesses — have conspired to destroy this man who is so much like Christ.

Because these people are crazy. This is the same 29% of people who are still hard core Trump supporters. They don’t even realize they’re in a cult and they need to be deprogrammed.

They don’t even have goalposts to move anymore, because they used the goalposts to make giant burning crosses.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
6. He still needs the DNC to pour some money in it. To GOTV
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:10 PM
Nov 2017

And advertise. There are some big time idiots down there

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
13. So true
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:22 PM
Nov 2017

A big part of the problem is what dems we have here that will vote are not active in the local parties, mainly because I think they feel like it's hopeless and don't know where to start. What we are going to have to do is not just get out the traditional dem votes, but the convince the republicans that Jones is a good option for them. We need lots of local ads and we need people calling republicans.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
14. I sent more money yesterday to Jones through ActBlue. That bypasses non-Jones Campaign people
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 02:05 PM
Nov 2017

who make decisions to withhold some or all of it from the Jones Campaign. I want JC to spend my money, if needed, and when and where JC decides.

Takket

(21,523 posts)
8. a "lead" is pretty much meaningless unless you are pulling 51% for sure
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:13 PM
Nov 2017

Hillary was leading all the swing states but at less than 50% before the election, and all the undecideds went to drumpf due to Russia and Comey's letter.

So a LONG way to go but there is certainly a possibility of an upset.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
16. Jones need to be above 50% mark to have a chance at all, like 53-55% level
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 02:45 PM
Nov 2017

46% not assured of anything except falling short

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
21. A certain type of person thinks Moore is the underdog here
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 03:47 PM
Nov 2017

with powerful forces in Washington and the media trying to look down on the people of Alabama. They think Washington Post and the establishments of both parties are conspiring to take down Moore to help the Jones.

There is also a certain type who likes assholes who break the rules and take what they want. They'd like to normalizing 30 year old adults dating 14 year old girls because they want to do it too.

They love that this pisses us off.



It ain't over til it's over. December 12th is a whole month out.

Midnight Writer

(21,672 posts)
24. Telling a pollster you will not support a pedophile is just what to expect from voters that support
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:17 PM
Nov 2017

a pedophile.

Throw out the polls in this election.

DeminPennswoods

(15,264 posts)
28. I'd trust the "robo polls" more than live person polls
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:02 PM
Nov 2017

I don't think most people will admit to another person they'd vote for an alleged child molester or that as a Republican they'd vote for a Dem, but in the privacy of a robo/push a button on your phone, they'd probably admit to either scenario.

DeminPennswoods

(15,264 posts)
26. FWIW, George Will thinks Moore will lose
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

He was on MSNBC last evening (can't recall which show) and said he'd just returned from Alabama. He didn't give a lot of specifics, but said his conversations with Alabamans make him believe they will not send Moore to Congress.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
29. I have that gut feeling, too
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:07 PM
Nov 2017

Like when we were all guessing who was going to be indicted. I felt silly saying it but I had the feeling it would be some unknown person. That turned out to be Papdopolous. I couldn't shake that notion, either, so what the heck. Moore loses.

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