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Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:59 PM

Gun safety NRA should be sponsoring....

classes:
1) how to identify when you and your loved ones are batshit crazy
2) how to assure that you don't murder your own family
3) how to assure your child doesn't become a mass murderer
4) how to prevent suicide with your guns
5) how to say no to family members who you don't trust with a gun

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Reply Gun safety NRA should be sponsoring.... (Original post)
Fresh_Start Jul 2012 OP
onehandle Jul 2012 #1
ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #2
Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #3
ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #5
Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #9
ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #10
Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #11
99Forever Jul 2012 #4
ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #6
99Forever Jul 2012 #7
ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #8
Chorophyll Jul 2012 #13
ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #16
Chorophyll Jul 2012 #12
ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #15
Erose999 Jul 2012 #14
Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #17

Response to Fresh_Start (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:15 PM

1. That would be admitting that guns might be dangerous.

A no-no for the National Republican Association.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:52 PM

2. Why didn't you post this in the RKBA forum?

There has been a growing litany of complaints of firearms threads leaking into the rest of DU.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:57 PM

3. I'm sorry I don't normally go to that forum

its like the religion forum or the meta forum.
Just not a place for normal people to visit.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:07 PM

5. "Normal people"

Interesting view you have there.

Seriously, I am not one of those complaining about the phenomena. I posted my seminal comment to get some sense of why people are doing that.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:33 PM

9. People chose who they want to associate with in RL and on the internet

DU is one example as indeed is FR.
We seem to seek either a) validation or b) conflict
depending on our individual makeup

While DU in general has a reasonably broad perspective, there are some forums which are more like battlegrounds.
I put the gun forum in that category.
There is no desire for real conversation there.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:40 PM

10. I understand you position

The RKBA forum has an unusual mix for DU posters. Hit and run shit stirrers are common as is a lot of innuendo. Through a group, the moderator has allowed this to continue, making it the most wide open group on DU.

If anti feminism posters were as tolerated in Feminism/HOF as anti gun posters are in RKBA it would redefine those groups.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:45 PM

11. In my druthers, there would be no separate forums at all

I live in latest threads and read mostly general discussion and politics there

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:01 PM

4. Why don't you want this important ...

... issue put where it gets the most attention? In case you didn't notice, ANOTHER fucking gunfreak went on a killing spree and many of us have had our fill of this NRA shit. If you don't want to read it, fine, don't click the threads, but NO ONE has to cater to your preferences.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:08 PM

6. I am not one of those complaining about the phenomena

But was curious as to why it was happening. Those who object are whining about it more loudly these days in meta

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:15 PM

7. This isn't the only thread ..

... you've thrown this canard out in. If you've got an issue with what's in "meta" how's about you take it up there? I could hazzard a pretty good guess as to "why" they are whining. The tipping point for their NRA horseshit may have been reached with this gunfreak's killing spree. The tide is turning and they are trying to stop it.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:28 PM

8. Its not a canard...its a legitimate question

an I am collecting the answers and will be doing some analysis on them.

Your contribution is appreciated.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:48 PM

13. Really? You really don't know why it's happening?

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:07 PM

16. Its an honest question and I have gotten some interesting answers on it in several threads

See my later post to you for more details

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:47 PM

12. In case you hadn't noticed, there was yet another mass shooting in the U.S. yesterday.

I think it's okay if we complain about firearms in GD today. Unless the moderators think otherwise. But so far they haven't.

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:06 PM

15. Indeed I am aware of it

There has been a fair amount of discussion about the role of the RKBA forum over the last few months. More recently there have been complaints of gun related threads showing up more frequently in GD and elsewhere. Finally there has been noise made that RKBA supporters are participating in the gun related threads outside of the RKBA group. It is a fairly fluid dynamic.

I am asking the question I am to get some data for those discussion outside of personal perceptions

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Response to Fresh_Start (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:05 PM

14. An ex-con family member was trusted with a hunting rifle by another family member. The con got drunk


and threw a fit one time and pointed it at me and several others in the family. He then went and hold up in his home and we called the sherriff's office to do a report. They sent the entire god damn SWAT unit. 50 guys with AR15's surrounded his trailer for an hour trying to plan some crazy tactical shit to get this guy out of there. He had been passed out drunk for several hours by that time, and once they breeched the door etc they had to wake him up and carry him out.

So after all this, my cousin who had given the ex-con family member the gun (which it was a felony for an ex-con to have) got the gun back, with no questions asked. Thats fucked up IMO. I think if you provide guns to people who shouldn't have them, you should get some sort of punitive consequences.

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Response to Erose999 (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:12 PM

17. Thats my point of learning how to say NO to people

who you know shouldn't have access to a weapon

In todays news, went the mom was contacted she suggested that it could have been her son.
If she had those type of concerns about her son, why on earth wouldn't she have gotten him help.
A news story suggested that there is money there...his parents own the apartment building he was living in.

As bad as it would be to have a child with such horrible mental illness, I have to believe having a child with horrible illness who became a mass murderer would be worse.

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