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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:12 AM Nov 2017

When Adult Men Target Teenaged Girls,

it's often because those men lack any real self-confidence. They can't deal with adult women, who are capable of making decisions about with whom they are willing to become sexually involved. Adult women know what you're up to and will say no, and mean it. They can't be cajoled, whined at, and flattered into allowing such activities.

So, those men seek out very young people who are even less self-confident than themselves and have no experience in fending off adult advances. Those men rely on the young girls' timidity and fear.

Adult men who target young girls are cowards. Roy Moore was a coward. He preferred victims to participants. He is pond scum.

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get the red out

(13,460 posts)
1. Good point
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:18 AM
Nov 2017

His big “Christian warrior” persona is probably contrived because he doesn’t have much confidence also. He has made himself a big deal by being a religious extremist and likes that.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. It has happened since the dawn of time
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:40 AM
Nov 2017

and only in our times is it questioned. Remember the Victorian era, when a 17-year-old might be prevailed upon even by her parents to marry a 42-year-old man. The man had to have means to support her and that took time, and the girl was ready to do her thing - have babies, much younger. So it's been a societal thing we are just growing out of. The man has to be older than the woman -even in the 50s you got a husband closer to your age, but still had to be a token year or two older.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
4. You're right, of course, but that's not how it works today.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:03 PM
Nov 2017

I remember my old high school days, back in the early 1960s. There were always older guys, typically in their 20s, who preyed on high school girls. I remember some of them. Generally they were people who weren't making it out there as adults very well, but could convince younger girls that they were cool, experienced, or whatever. Often, though, they were just creepy.

Both of my wives have been younger than me. But not very much, and I met them both as an adult when they were also adults. In my teen years, I dated girls my own age, as well as girls a couple of years younger. But, as an adult, I stuck to other adults, not kids. Kids should date other kids, and if they fool around with sex, as they will do, it's a couple of youngsters trying to learn.

Adults need to leave teenagers alone and let them grow up in their own time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. True but back in the 70s
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:19 PM
Nov 2017

It will still somewhat accepted, and probably more in the South. 16-year-old girls were still getting married in the South. Not a majority, but it was still accepted. I had friends in high school with boyfriends in their 20s - that would look bad now, but happened sometimes back then without being considered criminal.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
16. The only person I know who married at 16...
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:44 AM
Nov 2017

... after 1975, btw -- was probably 83-84 -- married her 18 year old boyfriend. My mother got married and pregnant at 18, but with a 21 year old. In 1971.

I've lived in Arkansas my whole life. We have a "Romeo and Juliet" law that reinforces that it's age difference that means more if the victim was 13 or older. Keeps people dating within 3-4 years of each other or less before they're 18. Which is appropriate.

 

SandyZ

(186 posts)
9. A large part of that equation that is not being discussed is girl/women status. Being lesser and
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:05 PM
Nov 2017

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the role to be used by the more superior man has been from the beginning of time. I agree with that token couple year thing.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
7. I think its because they are entitled shitheads.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:26 PM
Nov 2017

Supported by a culture that enables and nurtures them. Guess what the most looked up word is, according to Pornhub? “teenage”. So the one of the largest and most profitable industries in the world is completely down with predatory behavior toward young, vulnerable girls, boys, women and men and children. They are responding to demand, which perpetuates the culture.

They might be cowards as well. But they have a lot of company. It’s not an anomaly.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. Got me thinking about this deviant behavior.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:29 PM
Nov 2017

When we are 13, 14, 15 years old, we become sexually attracted to other 13, 14, 15 year olds.

Would that sexual attraction "naturally" go away as we get older?

Or is the age thing a "customary norm" imposed by society and laws?

'Cause, you know, there's a shit load of shit goin' on.

Do we just have an unusually perverted, deviant mass of people?

Or has it always been this way, and our "norms" have changed?

And is this a damn good reason for REAL sex education in our schools - when we're 13, 14, 15?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
11. There men who refuse to take advantage of underage girls...I met one or two in my lifetime
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:52 PM
Nov 2017

As a young girl I was kinda of an outcast, so my best friend was an older girl who directed me, in fact she said if I picked at blemishes I would look older!

...we were walking and someone who knew her offered her a ride. There were 3 or 4 men in the car, and one asked me about myself, and when I told him what school I went to he was aghast...it was an elementary school...he dropped us both off.

malaise

(268,724 posts)
12. It's more than self-confidence
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:55 PM
Nov 2017

Women their own age will laugh at their abysmal performance in bed - most can't get a woman.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
13. When he approached the mother & daughter at the courthouse, he knew why he was doing so.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 02:05 PM
Nov 2017

He then proceeded to groom mother & daughter.

Got mother to leave him alone "watching" her daughter.

Got daughter to give him her phone number.

LeftInTX

(25,151 posts)
15. You are exactly right
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:54 AM
Nov 2017

When I was in high school, there always seemed to be older guys who were willing to date me.

These guys were not a whole lot older than me, but they were out of high school and lived in a different world

I would go on a few dates with them and they would want to get serious much too fast.

I chalked it up to them being out in the "real world" and "wanting to settle down and get married". I naively thought: "Isn't that what all 20 year olds want to do"?? At least that is what I thought.

I didn't have much in common with them. Nothing sexual happened. I found them suffocating and kept making excuses not to date them.

These guys seemed to lack self confidence. They were a drag to be around.

They needed to be with someone their own age.

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