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Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:35 PM

Crossposting a thread from the Virginia Group. **this is important**

Thanks to DU'r ehrnst for starting that thread. I have been alerted by friends in Stafford that there are shenanigans going on and while I posted there, I wanted to bring it to GD for more eyes to see.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10814469 is the thread.

I posted there this information:

There is a SERIOUS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW:

Per a friend in the city:

Stafford County Registrar Greg Riddlemoser has thrown out over 1000 absentee ballots on a technicality. He has also refused to release the names of provisional voters in defiance of the State Board of Elections order.

Washington Post has been contacted as has NBC4.

I personally reached out to Dave Wasserman at the Cook Political Report and Benjamin Tribbet -- both of whom were intrumental in making sure Herring's recount was done properly a few years ago.


If anyone knows of a lawyer, let's get a judge to clear this up!

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Raine1967 Nov 2017 OP
malaise Nov 2017 #1
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #4
malaise Nov 2017 #20
brush Nov 2017 #72
certainot Nov 2017 #21
malaise Nov 2017 #24
underpants Nov 2017 #2
Jim Dandy Nov 2017 #3
rogue emissary Nov 2017 #5
csziggy Nov 2017 #6
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #15
csziggy Nov 2017 #17
niyad Nov 2017 #7
UtahLib Nov 2017 #8
ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #9
Roland99 Nov 2017 #10
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #14
Roland99 Nov 2017 #31
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #32
Roland99 Nov 2017 #35
angrychair Nov 2017 #11
iluvtennis Nov 2017 #30
angrychair Nov 2017 #36
iluvtennis Nov 2017 #37
FSogol Nov 2017 #12
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #13
Little Star Nov 2017 #16
crazycatlady Nov 2017 #18
Ligyron Nov 2017 #19
bluecollar2 Nov 2017 #22
calimary Nov 2017 #23
Happyhippychick Nov 2017 #25
Squinch Nov 2017 #26
mcar Nov 2017 #27
bluestateboomer Nov 2017 #28
zentrum Nov 2017 #29
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2017 #33
Sam McGee Nov 2017 #34
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2017 #38
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #39
denbot Nov 2017 #40
SunSeeker Nov 2017 #41
dhill926 Nov 2017 #42
bronxiteforever Nov 2017 #43
mac56 Nov 2017 #44
Justice Nov 2017 #45
Maraya1969 Nov 2017 #46
tomp Nov 2017 #47
FSogol Nov 2017 #48
jimlup Nov 2017 #49
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #50
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #51
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #52
gademocrat7 Nov 2017 #53
spooky3 Nov 2017 #54
catrose Nov 2017 #56
mercuryblues Nov 2017 #55
NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #57
Tiggeroshii Nov 2017 #58
Ilsa Nov 2017 #59
uponit7771 Nov 2017 #60
Ilsa Nov 2017 #61
raven mad Nov 2017 #62
volstork Nov 2017 #63
Puzzler Nov 2017 #64
Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #65
UCmeNdc Nov 2017 #66
DemSoc Nov 2017 #67
Roland99 Nov 2017 #68
halobeam Nov 2017 #69
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #70
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #71
tosh Nov 2017 #78
DoctorJoJo Nov 2017 #73
sheshe2 Nov 2017 #74
BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #75
MontanaMama Nov 2017 #76
lapucelle Nov 2017 #77
Mountain Mule Nov 2017 #79
mia Nov 2017 #80
Nitram Nov 2017 #81
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #82
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #83
Raine1967 Nov 2017 #84

Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:36 PM

1. Get thee to the greatest page for visibility

Rec

Contact Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc.

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:44 PM

4. We are trying to!

We are on this and would love help!

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:15 PM

20. I'll keep kicking

Great work

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 11:23 AM

72. Is this about the vote counts to determine who controls the House of Delegates?

It the official throwing out ballots to make sure the repugs keep control?

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:29 PM

21. this is a legit issue protest at the uni of virginia and virginia tech

one thing that will get high visibility and scare the crap out of the r-cons is to protest 6 limbaugh/trump/GOP radio stations by protesting the universities of Virginia Tech 5 and Virginia 1 that broadcast sports on them.

by broadcasting sports on those stations they're endorsing what the republicans are doing and have been doing. they're letting the r-cons use their mascots and brands to sell advertising and bullshit.

seeing protests to get the unis to look for apolitical alts will get GOP attention and freak them out. media will notice and advertisers will flee. without rw radio republicans have nothing.

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Response to certainot (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:35 PM

24. Excellent post

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:39 PM

2. Kick

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:43 PM

3. kick!

 

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:45 PM

5. K & R!

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:45 PM

6. Contact the local Democratic Party

Usually they have attorneys on call just for this kind of event. My brother in law has done this in Florida for several presidential races.

If the local Democratic Party does NOT have anyone on call, contact the ACLU!

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Response to csziggy (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:07 PM

15. That is happening as well!

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:12 PM

17. Excellent!

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:49 PM

7. k and r

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:50 PM

8. Kick and rec

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:50 PM

9. K&R

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:56 PM

10. What is the technicality?

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:06 PM

14. Envelopes.

Reports are that the ballots were discarded because they weren't placed in a smaller inner envelope.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:19 PM

31. SO. They were in an envelope. But not nested in a separate envelope inside that?!

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:29 PM

32. Seems so. Shades of Ohio 2004.

The ACLU, the Dems, the VA electoral commission, lawyers, WaPo and NBC have all been informed, so now we wait and see.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:39 PM

35. Ridiculous to blanket reject them

And I don’t care which way the votes were. Voted need to count

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:01 PM

11. I was a poll observer in Hampton Roads for years

In a recount there should be county or state DNC reps (typically a lawyer but not always) at a recount and to challenge the rejection of absentee ballots in a recount situation.

Contact the local Party office or state Party office or the national DNC office. Every race matters.

WE SHOULD FIGHT FOR EVERY SINGLE BALLOT.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:09 PM

30. But typically it;s the GOP'er types in control

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:44 PM

36. Not in this case

Virginia law is very explicit on this: both Parties have a right to have a representative in the room during all counting, can agree/disagree with the count and can fill protest to the count or any rejection of a ballot as well as a complaint to the courts.

There is no “behind closed doors” bullshit in Virginia. The only stipulation being that it’s completely at a Party’s discretion to have a representative present or not. Nothing says that they have to be there, just that they have a right to be there.


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Response to angrychair (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:45 PM

37. Excellent! Thanks for clarifying

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:03 PM

12. K & R. n/t

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:05 PM

13. K&R The House of Delegates hangs in the balance

Every vote MUST COUNT!

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:08 PM

16. k&r

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:13 PM

18. Call the 1-888-OUR-VOTE hotline

Also contact the VA Democratic Party. I'm sure they have lawyers on call.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:13 PM

19. Wow, best of luck in this.

You just know they didn't try to dispose of them to make things fair and just. Bet there's a reason.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:31 PM

22. kick and rec...n/t

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:33 PM

23. K&R!

Let's just face it. The ONLY realistic way this team can win anymore is if they CHEAT.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:36 PM

25. kick

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:44 PM

26. Kick

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:45 PM

27. They will stop at nothing

Good luck!

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:58 PM

28. KICK

N/T

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:03 PM

29. K&R

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:33 PM

33. K & R

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:35 PM

34. Call the Lawyers' Committee RIGHT NOW!!!!

 

Call the Lawyers' Committee immediately 1-866-OUR-VOTE. 866-687-8683

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:47 PM

38. A big, fat K&R!

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:08 PM

39. The DNC needs to aggressively go after these things. Aggressively. nt

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:25 PM

40. K&R

Keep us posted.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:27 PM

41. The DNC needs to get lawyers on this!

This cannot go unchallenged.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:28 PM

42. perhaps it's bringing shit like this to,light...

That was the reason for the Election Day hack of DU...

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:29 PM

43. Kick and recommend.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:33 PM

44. K & R

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:38 PM

45. tweeted to Marc Elias who is Dem lawyer.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:50 PM

46. Someone please Twitter this. I don't know the hashtags but they

Should be easy to find out.

I'm on my phone and can't find the Tweet button

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:45 PM

47. Seek immediate injunction...

 

...against any announcement of winner or ratification of the vote. Also, immediate protest at boe.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:23 PM

48. Please give us updates when you hear them.

Many thanks.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:27 PM

49. This is really the only way that they have left to win - they have to cheat

Either by passing absurd laws or shit like this

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:28 PM

50. How about contacting ACLU? 1-866-OUR-VOTE or 1-866-987-8683

 

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:33 PM

52. Call Norman Goldman show right not (6-9 ET) he is a lawyer: 1-888-321-6001

 

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:38 PM

53. K&R!

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Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #53)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:48 PM

54. And another!

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:30 PM

56. yet another n/t

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:28 PM

55. kick

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:42 PM

57. Kick for visibility

Wish I knew a lawyer with experience in election law; I'll ask around my Virginia friends.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:01 PM

58. Kick

 

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:05 PM

59. Shameless cheating by them. I hope he goes to jail. nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #59)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:11 PM

60. +1, I'm biased but I rarely if EVER hear of dems doing this stupid shit ... maddening

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #60)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:14 PM

61. Can't find a current twitter thread for this. nt

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:15 PM

62. Kick because it's happening everywhere.

And Virginia has a large piece of my heart (in the hills).

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:09 PM

63. Kick for vis

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 02:23 AM

64. K&R

(n/t)

-Puzzler

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 04:25 AM

65. knR

 

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 04:42 AM

66. K&R

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Fri Nov 10, 2017, 05:40 AM

67. K & R. n/t

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 08:40 AM

68. Any updates on this?

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 09:00 AM

69. K & R

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 09:10 AM

70. Democratic Party lawyers should be involved...have you called them?

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 09:59 AM

71. No new updates however, lawyers

and others went to Stafford county yesterday. If I hear anything I'll pass it on.

I don't live in that area, I am in another delegate district and my delegate is helping out.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #71)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:00 PM

78. Thank you!


K&R.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 11:31 AM

73. Repukes Stealing An Election?

 

Why am I not surprised!

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 11:35 AM

74. K&R

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 11:56 AM

75. Kick! Rec! Glad Virginians have contacted Washington Post and other media.

Also glad you contacted Wasserman and Tribbet.

I don't know those names but sounds like a smart move.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:04 PM

76. K&R

We can't let them do this in the dark.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:05 PM

77. Thank you Raine1967 and ehrnst

Tweet Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, CNN, etc

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:03 PM

79. Huge kick from this ol Mountain Mule!

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Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:13 PM

80. K&R n/t

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:41 PM

81. Wow! Actually may be good news because it suggests the Democratic candidate won.

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 04:22 PM

82. **UPDATE**

- We're still working on this -- right now -- there are 55 absentee ballots in question that are apparently military voters. Our lawyers are working on a court order to get the provisional ballot logs released and to make sure the military absentee voters are not disenfranchised

The information concerning 1000 absentee ballots being "thrown out" was apparently a misunderstanding by an elected official who is fighting for her own recount. She was either told this in error or she misinterpreted the numbers of disqualified absentee ballots. Our lawyers who have looked into this matter don't think that the information on the 1000 disqualified ballots is accurate.

There is a question about a flier that provisional voters were given that contained incorrect info. This flier informed voters that they had until noon on Friday (today) to appear at the registrar's office to validate their ballots. But today is a holiday and the office is closed. Voters have until Noon on Monday, 11/13 to verify their vote. The Registrar has been asked to show us the flier -- this might be part of the court order as well.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #82)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 10:54 AM

83. **UPDATE 2** VoteVets in aware of the situation:




Text copy:

VoteVets‏Verified account @votevets

With a razor thin margin triggering a recount in Virginia's HD-28 election for Delegate, VoteVets is calling on the electoral board to count all military ballots. Thus far, the local electoral board has refused to count 55 military ballots. #VAPol

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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 03:34 PM

84. **Update**

From a friend in the district:

UPDATE #VAHD28 -- We have the provisional ballot logs in hand! Field staff is starting to contact these voters now.


The status of the uncounted 55 Absentee Ballots is still not resolved. Keep fighting on this!

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