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Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:21 AM

Carrier to lay off hundreds more workers - despite cash deal with Trump to save jobs

BRAD REED
09 NOV 2017 AT 08:01 ET

President Donald Trump last year struck a deal with the Carrier Corporation last year that was supposed to save American manufacturing jobs at the company and prevent it from moving them overseas.

Since then, however, Carrier has laid off hundreds of employees — and Fox News reports that the company is planning to lay off hundreds more workers early next year.

Specifically, Carrier says it plans to lay off 215 more workers this coming January, just months after it laid off more than 300 employees earlier this year. The deal that the company struck with Trump gave it $7 million to keep some jobs in the United States, although it still is moving many of the jobs at its Indiana plant down to Mexico anyway.

Although Carrier workers were initially jubilant about the deal to save their jobs, many have grown disillusioned as they’ve seen their colleagues laid off regardless of the incentives the company had to keep its production in the United States.

-snip- (a quote from a former employee, dated July 2017, Trump “blew smoke up our asses.”)

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https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/carrier-to-lay-off-hundreds-more-workers-despite-cash-deal-with-trump-to-save-jobs/

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Reply Carrier to lay off hundreds more workers - despite cash deal with Trump to save jobs (Original post)
DonViejo Nov 9 OP
Faux pas Nov 9 #1
SergeStorms Nov 11 #25
Faux pas Nov 11 #31
Angry Dragon Nov 12 #36
Achilleaze Nov 9 #2
Wounded Bear Nov 9 #5
InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 9 #7
Scarsdale Nov 10 #17
mdbl Nov 12 #39
workinclasszero Nov 12 #41
Doitnow Nov 11 #23
SergeStorms Nov 11 #26
Progressive dog Nov 13 #43
Justice Nov 9 #3
Freethinker65 Nov 9 #4
KY_EnviroGuy Nov 9 #13
Scarsdale Nov 10 #18
tonyt53 Nov 9 #6
Motley13 Nov 9 #8
mahatmakanejeeves Nov 9 #9
KY_EnviroGuy Nov 9 #12
mahatmakanejeeves Nov 9 #14
DonViejo Nov 9 #16
mdbl Nov 12 #40
Vinca Nov 9 #10
Achilleaze Nov 9 #11
SweetieD Nov 9 #15
Achilleaze Nov 10 #19
dalton99a Nov 11 #32
extvbroadcaster Nov 10 #20
maxrandb Nov 10 #21
Still In Wisconsin Nov 10 #22
oasis Nov 11 #24
no_hypocrisy Nov 11 #27
Squinch Nov 11 #28
Bengus81 Nov 11 #29
FakeNoose Nov 11 #30
treestar Nov 11 #33
n2doc Nov 11 #34
RhodeIslandOne Nov 11 #35
Tarheel_Dem Nov 12 #37
IronLionZion Nov 12 #38
workinclasszero Nov 12 #42

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:23 AM

1. Some

art of the deal maker huh?

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:10 AM

25. Only Donald Trump....

can negotiate like that! He alone can add good paying jobs to the .............Mexican workforce. People actually believed that jackass. Of course if you ask Trump, he'll tell you that he's added more jobs to the U.S. economy than the last 4 previous Presidents combined. He's an economic whirlwind. Just ask him!

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 09:53 AM

31. I hope he stays out

of the country longer than expected, I kinda love the thought of him being some other country's problem.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:04 AM

36. #1 Trump was not president yet so he had no power to make any deal

#2 It was all a Pence deal, Indiana people are the ones that got fucked, they are stuck with the bill
#3 Carrier execs should be arrested and all assets should be forfeit

corps want to be treated like persons so lets start

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:23 AM

2. Why do republicans lie to American workers?

That really sucks.

I mean, I know it was Comrade Casino, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief, who lied to the workers at Carrier. But in general republicans are consistently lying to American workers. republicans need to stop lying.

If republican can't muster the honor to speak truth to American workers, then they should just STFU.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:32 AM

5. Because they can, and they get away with it...

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:53 AM

7. Precisely!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:39 PM

17. It is the gop way!

Has been their operating procedure for years, and people accept that, so they continue on.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 09:32 AM

39. Because Americans are gullible dopes

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Response to mdbl (Reply #39)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 09:57 AM

41. But..but...

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:01 AM

23. Just part of the "Lie, Cheat and Steal" motto they live by.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:16 AM

26. Until the American workers....

stand up and call him on his lies, it's all forgotten. Democrats and the media can report on Trump's abject failure to do anything about American companies outsourcing jobs, but his "base" won't believe a thing they hear. Until it happens to THEM! But Trump will always blame it on "obstructionist Democrats" - even though the GOP is in total control of Congress - and of course Trump's "secret weapon", 'blame it on Hillary' and the base falls right back in line.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:59 PM

43. Because lying works for them.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:24 AM

3. This will be a commercial in 2020

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:30 AM

4. That was the deal. Carrier will get taxpayer money to help Trump get elected.

The deal was never about jobs nor workers. It worked perfectly as planned.

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:21 PM

13. And, they'll pull the same shit next election - Trump or no Trump.

They know people have short memories and Fox and talk radio will cover for the lies between elections.

And, would anyone like to wager on who Carrier will support and fund in the next election?

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:40 PM

18. Romney

of course!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:34 AM

6. The president of the their local union told them this was going to happen. Few listened.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:17 AM

8. looks like Carrier outsmarted the dealmaker, aka effing moron

and the state got screwed

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:50 PM

9. The story at Fox News, with comments:

Those who are offended are urged not to click.

More layoffs planned at Carrier plant Trump promised to save

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:16 PM

12. Do I need a full-body condom to click on that?



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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:26 PM

14. No. Fox News had the story first. Everyone else is using them as a source. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:18 PM

16. And that's why this article isn't in the LBN Forum...

Not a reputable mainstream news site. I debated whether to put the link to the Fox article in the OP and decided DU'ers could decide for themselves if they wanted to go into that swamp

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 09:44 AM

40. i clicked and was pleasantly surprised that

the comments from normal people outnumbered the kool-aid drinkers.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:08 PM

10. They should have just split that $7 million among the employees.

In the end they're getting screwed anyway.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:10 PM

11. Republicans need to stop lying to American workers

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:26 PM

15. It was a scam from the beginning.

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Response to SweetieD (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:49 PM

19. Yes, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief deliberately lied

to American workers

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Response to SweetieD (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 09:58 AM

32. Yep.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 02:27 PM

20. I remember him walking through the plant

Trump, walking through the carrier plant, acting like a tough guy that just saved jobs. Yep, he was going to show those management folks they can't ship jobs out of the country - they had to deal with him! But like always, it was a big show and nothing more. Trump did not care in the least about the workers, he was just there for the TV coverage and once the lights were off he went on to his next con. Any CEO anywhere knows they can outsmart Trump, because in the end all he cares about is himself and his grifter family. And people voted for him? Now they can't admit they were conned.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 02:32 PM

21. He blew smoke up your asses

And you acted like it was a rainbow sherbet enema.

I used to have pity for folks that got conned, now I just say the words of your supreme leader...Go Fuck Yourselves

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 04:59 PM

22. Everything TRUMP touches turns to shit.

He truly has the reverse Midas touch.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:05 AM

24. Trump:"Thanks for the votes...... suckers".

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 07:27 AM

27. Then the tax deal is off. Pay up suckers.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:06 AM

28. So after Trump(R)'s deal, they lost the job AND they lost $7million. He's a walking catastrophe.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:15 AM

29. Still got their MILLIONS $$$ from the Indiana though......

They used Trump and then RIPPED off Indiana for all the CASH they could get. This is EXACTLY why the union boss was calling Trump a LIAR way back then.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:31 AM

30. It's all about robotics and off-shoring

Every manufacturing owner in the USA dreams of having nothing but robots in their plants. They'd be so happy to lay everybody off if they had enough specialized robots to do the job. If that's not possible their second dream is to build plants in 3rd world countries that are filled with cheap, disposable people who don't have unions and don't demand raises and benefits.

These are the 2 pipe dreams that drive American manufacturing today. Anybody who works in industry should know this and be ready to change fields when the layoffs get to your level. I'm retired now but I worked in printing for pretty much my whole career. The printing industry (mostly small local business owners) has been devastated by the 2 trends I've stated above.

It's going to get worse - way worse.


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 09:59 AM

33. They are going to do what makes the most profit

Donald should know that. Oh wait, he's not a really successful businessman. Or he'd know that.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 04:14 PM

34. Trump Chumps

Maybe next time, try to recognize the con man before you vote for him. Hint: He's the one making impossible promises.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 10:00 PM

35. Winning! LULZ!!! n/m

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 05:44 AM

37. K&R

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 08:21 AM

38. Why did Hillary kill those jobs? Is it because liberals hate America's heartland?

And after Trump has tried so hard to create so many jobs. Oh well, he'll bring back the coal mines and lots of manufacturing jobs.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:02 AM

42. #tiredofwinning

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