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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:38 PM Nov 2017

So. Seems polling was pretty good. What does that say (confirm) about 2016?

Hacked much?

I suspect Mueller and others are very interested in seeing such a result.

Thoughts???

I will never believe that the 2016 election results were legit. period.

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So. Seems polling was pretty good. What does that say (confirm) about 2016? (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 OP
I'm with you. There were thousands of ballots in Detroit that were allegedly cast without... brush Nov 2017 #1
Clinton was narrowly ahead in polls in 2016 and narrowly won the popular vote. David__77 Nov 2017 #2
No, she wasn't "narrowly ahead" Polls predicted she's win in a landslide lunamagica Nov 2017 #14
OK. She won 48.2% of the vote and Trump won 46.1% (2.1% spread). David__77 Nov 2017 #17
Nate Silver predicted Hillary would get 302 EV vs teimps 235 lunamagica Nov 2017 #18
No. David__77 Nov 2017 #19
+1, VA went paper not long ago uponit7771 Nov 2017 #3
I doubt this has any impact on Mueller or his investigation titaniumsalute Nov 2017 #4
Could not agree more. Zoonart Nov 2017 #5
When Democrats SHOW UP to vote, Democrats WIN. DinahMoeHum Nov 2017 #6
It says AlphaCharley Nov 2017 #7
good list and welcome to DU! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 #8
One slight amendment to your points Bettie Nov 2017 #10
It also says that polls are reliable lunamagica Nov 2017 #16
No doubt Caliman73 Nov 2017 #9
Quinnipiac was dead on. scheming daemons Nov 2017 #11
yup. And those pollsters who missed so badly in 2016 - well, there was a reason. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 #12
Exactly..I have always said that.. HipChick Nov 2017 #13
Hmmm...thanks for bringing that up. I hadn't thought about it. The polls weren't wrong lunamagica Nov 2017 #15

brush

(53,771 posts)
1. I'm with you. There were thousands of ballots in Detroit that were allegedly cast without...
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:46 PM
Nov 2017

the presidential choice selected.

Come on, in a city with a large black demographic and they expect us to believe that all those African Americans declined to vote for the Democratic candidate.

REPUGS CHEAT. I REPEAT, REPUGS CHEAT!

They were thwarted in Virginia because they got rid of the old, hackable voting machines.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
14. No, she wasn't "narrowly ahead" Polls predicted she's win in a landslide
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:32 AM
Nov 2017

And she narrowly won the popular vote? Since when 3 million more votes equals "narrowly"?

David__77

(23,372 posts)
17. OK. She won 48.2% of the vote and Trump won 46.1% (2.1% spread).
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:40 AM
Nov 2017

The last few polls listed here showed Clinton as far ahead as 6%: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

The average presented there showed Clinton ahead by 3.2%.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
18. Nate Silver predicted Hillary would get 302 EV vs teimps 235
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:34 AM
Nov 2017

Hillary Clinton 71.4 chance, vs trumps 28.6

Los Angeles Times :

The Los Angeles Times map gives Clinton the most decisive victory, projecting the Democrat will win 352 Electoral College votes on Election Day and 186 for Trump.

Princeton Election Consortium: Hillary EVs 304 trump 215

Sam Wang at the Princeton Election Consortium wrote Monday that if Clinton does not win on Tuesday it will be “a giant surprise” given the current election models. In fact, the Election Consortium has Clinton’s win probability range in the 98-99% range. Their model projects Clinton will win if she clinches Electoral College votes in Florida, Nevada and splits Maine’s votes with Trump.

Larry Sabato: Hillary 322 EVs trump 216

Larry Sabato at the University of Virginia Center for Politics, who forecasted wins for President Obama in 2008 and 2012, called the election Clinton on Monday, projecting the former Secretary of State would clinch 322 Electoral College votes. Sabato’s team projects the closest calls will come in both North Carolina and Ohio, though they suspect Ohio will go for Trump. Florida, which Trump has recently predicted he will win, goes to Clinton in the Sabato map.

http://time.com/4561625/electoral-college-predictions/

Do you really believe trump won fair and square?

Zoonart

(11,855 posts)
5. Could not agree more.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:48 PM
Nov 2017

Wat happened in 2016 was statistically impossible.
The election results were crooked up and down the ballot.

Tonight will add to the mountain of proof that 2016 was stolen.

 

AlphaCharley

(74 posts)
7. It says
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:02 AM
Nov 2017

1. All politics are local
2. It's STILL the economy, stupid (Northern VA professonal class broke heavy for Dem d/t Trump hiring freeze, wage freeze, and attacks on federal retires)
3. Working women are STILL the Dem's best constituency and most likely to turn out, or put another way (the REAL) Dem Party and women led VA by 20 points.
4. Never eff with pissed off Latinos cause they just might finally turn out in big numbers.
5. Crazy wonderful things can happen when people vote.
and
6. USE PAPER BALLOTS in swing states.

Caliman73

(11,735 posts)
9. No doubt
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:05 AM
Nov 2017

The margin of victory was so narrow, and with all that is being revealed about Facebook, Google, Precinct reports in the battleground states, etc... the only logical conclusion was that Republicans cheated.

Not to mention how every Republican and troll jumped on the fake DNC scandal. They love to project their own actions onto others.

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