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Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:38 AM

Serious question: how do we keep the Russians

from infiltrating DU? 😳

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Reply Serious question: how do we keep the Russians (Original post)
joet67 Nov 2017 OP
Skittles Nov 2017 #1
dweller Nov 2017 #2
MineralMan Nov 2017 #11
Cicada Nov 2017 #3
delisen Nov 2017 #4
Cicada Nov 2017 #7
joet67 Nov 2017 #13
Turbineguy Nov 2017 #5
bluepen Nov 2017 #6
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #8
joet67 Nov 2017 #14
Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #16
nocalflea Nov 2017 #9
joet67 Nov 2017 #12
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #15
MineralMan Nov 2017 #10

Response to joet67 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:55 AM

1. easier to learn to identify them

they're trolls from another country

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:35 AM

2. dosvadonya

mate... 😁

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Response to dweller (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 10:16 AM

11. Well, clearly, you're not a Russian...

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:50 AM

3. We can just post truth to their lies

Not that hard

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Response to Cicada (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:55 AM

4. did not work so well on major platforms

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Response to delisen (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:23 AM

7. This isnt a major platform, this is DU

I have faith in us.

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Response to Cicada (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:43 PM

13. You assume too much

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:11 AM

5. Demand authentication.

I see it all the time here.

Somebody makes an assertion.

Next post: "Link?"

Don't get into a pissing contest about unconfirmed information.



Back in the day, it was easy to spot. Stuff like, "capitalist imperialist running dog!" was a dead giveaway. The Russians have learned new tricks from Fox News.

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:16 AM

6. Как ты смеешь!

Just kidding.

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:55 AM

8. Honest answer

 

It would require first that you insist people give you more details when requesting to join than just an email. And gather more detils like IP address. Get real name, address, phone #.

Second it would require a team of people working to vet everyone trying to sign up to see if they are real people. You can do some very basic things like:

Google the persons email address and see if they have a history of it being used, and what kind of websites.

Check and see if the name, phone number and address given match up with any public records.

Look at the address given and the IP address used to sign up- someone claiming to be from rural GA with a San Francisco IP should demand questions be answered first.

Most states allow the public to search voter registration records, so an obvious one would be to check those. If someone attempts to register and says they are a 35 year old named Shane Grimes from Georgia and you canít find any registered Democrats or Independents in GA by that name it should be a red flag.

And lastly, actually make a phone call before activating a new registration. A few words on the phone can usually give an answer. If Sarah Wilson from Arkansas answers with a male voice and a Russian accent that is a giveaway. You can hide accents a lot easier online than over the phone.

Also, ban the IPs of known proxy servers so people canít hide their IPs.

All that wonít stop them all. But it will make it much harder for them and since they seem to like volume would probably cause them to go elsewhere.

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:46 PM

14. THIS is exactly what I meant!

Who is doing this for us? How do we really know this whole place isnít just a Russian construct?

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Response to joet67 (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:10 PM

16. Probably nobody is doing it

 

What I described is a lot of work. And it requires people with the experience and eye for things to see what are red flags.

You would need standards sets, with everyone on the same sheet of music, people trained on what to do, and of course before you can have people start vetting new members you need to vet them...

It would take a lot of manpower.

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:03 AM

9. Does "the Russians" include U.S. citizens purposefully pushing Russian interests ?

'Cause they're already here.

The consistent doom and gloomers (they want us to give up,lose hope).

The consistent dividers (divide and conquer, big russian interest ,that).

The consistent "I don't trust"-ers (they want us to lose faith in institutions, in leadership, in our fellow americans).

The consistent defamers (and no, I'm not referencing the Hillary/Bernie feuders) -anyone who is effective, who has our trust or is gaining our trust, is targeted.

Saw one here the other day. Could've been a russian for all I know, but assumed he/she was American.( If he/she was a russian, fooled me, very good, very deft impersonation).

The more obvious one's are sometimes mistaken for the far-right or deplorables. I've made that mistake, but then I asked myself :

"Why in the world would they be pushing that line?"

We need to ask ourselves that question more often.

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Response to nocalflea (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:42 PM

12. No. I mean actual Russians.

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Response to nocalflea (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:58 PM

15. I like you list! I always ask myself 2 q's: Does the person mean what they say & do they mean well.

 

1. Are they gaslighting the f*ck out of us?
2. Do they wish us DEMS well?

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 10:16 AM

10. I don't know. Maybe block people who have a low post

count from posting new threads?

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