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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:27 PM

Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements

Donna Brazile got it wrong period end of story...It is a pernicious conspiracy theory that the 16 primary was stolen. It was not.


"Donna Brazile reopened 2016 Democratic primary wounds yesterday by publishing a portion of her new book, Hacks: The Inside Story Of The Break Ins And Breakdowns at POLITICO. Although the usual suspects leaped on her claims that Hillary Clinton “control[ed] the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in a 2015 document, by the evening it became clear that Brazile had misrepresented the reality.

There is absolutely nothing in the Clinton campaign’s 2015 Joint Fundraising Agreement that gave her any such “control” — not even in the draft version of that document hacked by Russian intelligence and published by WikiLeaks.

Whereas Brazile claimed that Clinton wanted to “wield control of [DNC] operations” in 2015, she never assumed any such powers until June of 2016, when the primary race was over and she was the official nominee. As Brazile acknowledges, it is absolutely normal for the nominee to take control of the party apparatus at that point."

https://deepstatenation.com/primary-error-donna-brazile-mixed-up-two-different-clinton-dnc-agreements/

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Reply Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements (Original post)
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 OP
boston bean Nov 2017 #1
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #6
Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #22
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #26
yardwork Nov 2017 #30
delisen Nov 2017 #2
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #5
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #10
delisen Nov 2017 #28
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #7
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #11
GeneMcM Nov 2017 #15
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #21
msongs Nov 2017 #3
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #8
GeneMcM Nov 2017 #27
yardwork Nov 2017 #32
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #4
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #9
StevieM Nov 2017 #13
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #14
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #19
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #16
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #18
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #24
Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #12
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #17
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #20
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #23
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #25
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #29
yardwork Nov 2017 #31
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #33
yardwork Nov 2017 #34
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #35
StevieM Nov 2017 #36

Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:30 PM

1. Worse than that. She just plain old lied.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:03 PM

6. It sure looks that way...hard to believe she could make a mistake like that given her past

jobs.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:26 PM

22. She just needed a salacious 'hook' to get everybody instantly talking

but we see now that she crossed the line...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:00 PM

26. Absolutely. We must fight this sue her and the publisher...look how the constant demonization of

Hillary Clinton has worked...the same could happen to the Democratic party.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:23 AM

30. Right. This was not an off-the-cuff statement.

She published in her book that it "broke her heart" when she discovered.... something that she never could have discovered because it wasn't there.

Brazile and her publisher made up an entire narrative that is completely false. Then Brazile hit the talk circuit to promote the falsehood.

This was deliberate.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:40 PM

2. I think more people were involved than just Brazile

she , and the publisher, never fact checked before publishing?

Nobody checked with Sanders, Amy, Robbie, or Hillary?

Something is not right with this picture.

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:50 PM

5. Publisher wanted to cash in quick, I guess.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:06 PM

10. In their defense, Brazile has an extensive career. I doubt they understood the nature of the

agreements. That being said they need to step up and fix this.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:34 AM

28. Such a reasonable approach would be a positive

Brazile has had an extensive career and Would like to see her move quickly to make things right.

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:03 PM

7. The Party and Sec. Clinton need to sue Brazile and the publisher.

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:07 PM

11. That is a good point...hit job by Brazile and the Repugs?

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:11 PM

15. I do too and it stinks to heaven. She is far far too experienced for this to have been a mistake.

 

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:25 PM

21. She describes a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey.

 

Which she took as him being magnanimous.


She called Bernie Sanders to tell him about all this, but first “I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.” (In fact, it turned out not to be an emotional call. Apparently Bernie didn’t care much.)



http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:46 PM

3. she went for the gold to get revenge. not working out so well, apparently nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:04 PM

8. Revenge against Hillary...what did Hillary do to her?

Brazile made her own mistakes. It makes me angry that even Democrats use Hillary Clinton as a whipping 'girl'.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:26 PM

27. Quite the Contrary. Like so many others, her career and millions can be thanked to the Clintons enga

 

engaging her in the first place.

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:27 AM

32. Revenge for what?

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:49 PM

4. Publisher needs to pull the book and sue Donna for defrauding them

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:05 PM

9. Absolutely...she is a liar...soon to be a proven liar.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:08 PM

13. But will people accept something as insignificant as proof? These days it seems like once a lie

is believed nobody cares about the subsequent correction to the record.

That, of course, is how the GOP sold the fake email scandal.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:10 PM

14. It isn't true and she should not profit off of pedaling untruths.

As to her consultancy career she's proven herself untrustworthy.

I was quite empathetic yesterday and giving her the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:15 PM

19. I saw your posts...you bent over backwards to be fair...as always.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:14 PM

16. Some will never believe that 16 was fair because they don't want to...

There will never be enough proof for this sort.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:15 PM

18. They live in a bubble, truth doesn't penetrate it. You can see it at Reddit

They still believe in Pizzagate and so on.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:34 PM

24. I go on Reddit too...but usually just lurk...they are vicious...and I take it personally when my

posts are voted down!

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:08 PM

12. Whooops Ok great....all is forgiven and we can all now move on. GREAT.

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:15 PM

17. I hope so...

But this shows how desperate some are to blame Democrats and the Party...very unsettling.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:19 PM

20. Doesn't she describe a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey?

 

Which she took as him being magnanimous.


She called Bernie Sanders to tell him about all this, but first “I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.” (In fact, it turned out not to be an emotional call. Apparently Bernie didn’t care much.)



http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:29 PM

23. Bernie probably understood she was mixing up two different agreements

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:35 PM

25. Sen. Sanders is smart...he knew the truth...probably used to ass kissers...who want something from

him.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:19 AM

29. It is interesting that she did not get the reaction from him she thought was certain w/her findings

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:25 AM

31. Brazile sounds mentally unstable.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:30 AM

33. Am not so sure of that. Seems passionate to me. I like her but disappointed w/her & this mess she

 

caused.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:32 AM

34. She sounds overwrought, overly emotional.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:36 AM

35. We disagree on this point. She reached a mistaken conclusion that made her feel that way.

 

The whole of last year was dramatic. I am not trying to defend her here all the way, I just see her somewhat differently than you.

But still she caused damage to us with this self-enforced error.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:48 PM

36. K&R. More people need to see this. (eom)

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