Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:27 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements
Donna Brazile got it wrong period end of story...It is a pernicious conspiracy theory that the 16 primary was stolen. It was not.
"Donna Brazile reopened 2016 Democratic primary wounds yesterday by publishing a portion of her new book, Hacks: The Inside Story Of The Break Ins And Breakdowns at POLITICO. Although the usual suspects leaped on her claims that Hillary Clinton “control[ed] the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in a 2015 document, by the evening it became clear that Brazile had misrepresented the reality. There is absolutely nothing in the Clinton campaign’s 2015 Joint Fundraising Agreement that gave her any such “control” — not even in the draft version of that document hacked by Russian intelligence and published by WikiLeaks. Whereas Brazile claimed that Clinton wanted to “wield control of [DNC] operations” in 2015, she never assumed any such powers until June of 2016, when the primary race was over and she was the official nominee. As Brazile acknowledges, it is absolutely normal for the nominee to take control of the party apparatus at that point." https://deepstatenation.com/primary-error-donna-brazile-mixed-up-two-different-clinton-dnc-agreements/
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Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | OP |
boston bean | Nov 2017 | #1 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #6 | |
Blue_Tires | Nov 2017 | #22 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #26 | |
yardwork | Nov 2017 | #30 | |
delisen | Nov 2017 | #2 | |
emulatorloo | Nov 2017 | #5 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #10 | |
delisen | Nov 2017 | #28 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #7 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #11 | |
GeneMcM | Nov 2017 | #15 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #21 | |
msongs | Nov 2017 | #3 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #8 | |
GeneMcM | Nov 2017 | #27 | |
yardwork | Nov 2017 | #32 | |
emulatorloo | Nov 2017 | #4 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #9 | |
StevieM | Nov 2017 | #13 | |
emulatorloo | Nov 2017 | #14 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #19 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #16 | |
emulatorloo | Nov 2017 | #18 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #24 | |
Kirk Lover | Nov 2017 | #12 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #17 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #20 | |
emulatorloo | Nov 2017 | #23 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #25 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #29 | |
yardwork | Nov 2017 | #31 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #33 | |
yardwork | Nov 2017 | #34 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #35 | |
StevieM | Nov 2017 | #36 |
Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:30 PM
boston bean (33,671 posts)
1. Worse than that. She just plain old lied.
Response to boston bean (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:03 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
6. It sure looks that way...hard to believe she could make a mistake like that given her past
jobs.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:26 PM
Blue_Tires (55,414 posts)
22. She just needed a salacious 'hook' to get everybody instantly talking
but we see now that she crossed the line...
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #22)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:00 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
26. Absolutely. We must fight this sue her and the publisher...look how the constant demonization of
Hillary Clinton has worked...the same could happen to the Democratic party.
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Response to boston bean (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:23 AM
yardwork (52,198 posts)
30. Right. This was not an off-the-cuff statement.
She published in her book that it "broke her heart" when she discovered.... something that she never could have discovered because it wasn't there.
Brazile and her publisher made up an entire narrative that is completely false. Then Brazile hit the talk circuit to promote the falsehood. This was deliberate. |
Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:40 PM
delisen (5,226 posts)
2. I think more people were involved than just Brazile
she , and the publisher, never fact checked before publishing?
Nobody checked with Sanders, Amy, Robbie, or Hillary? Something is not right with this picture. |
Response to delisen (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:50 PM
emulatorloo (37,999 posts)
5. Publisher wanted to cash in quick, I guess.
Response to emulatorloo (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:06 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
10. In their defense, Brazile has an extensive career. I doubt they understood the nature of the
agreements. That being said they need to step up and fix this.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:34 AM
delisen (5,226 posts)
28. Such a reasonable approach would be a positive
Brazile has had an extensive career and Would like to see her move quickly to make things right.
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Response to delisen (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:03 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
7. The Party and Sec. Clinton need to sue Brazile and the publisher.
Response to delisen (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:07 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
11. That is a good point...hit job by Brazile and the Repugs?
Response to delisen (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:11 PM
GeneMcM (69 posts)
15. I do too and it stinks to heaven. She is far far too experienced for this to have been a mistake.
Response to delisen (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:25 PM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
21. She describes a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey.
Which she took as him being magnanimous.
She called Bernie Sanders to tell him about all this, but first “I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.” (In fact, it turned out not to be an emotional call. Apparently Bernie didn’t care much.) http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/ |
Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:46 PM
msongs (58,869 posts)
3. she went for the gold to get revenge. not working out so well, apparently nt
Response to msongs (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:04 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
8. Revenge against Hillary...what did Hillary do to her?
Brazile made her own mistakes. It makes me angry that even Democrats use Hillary Clinton as a whipping 'girl'.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:26 PM
GeneMcM (69 posts)
27. Quite the Contrary. Like so many others, her career and millions can be thanked to the Clintons enga
engaging her in the first place.
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Response to msongs (Reply #3)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:27 AM
yardwork (52,198 posts)
32. Revenge for what?
Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:49 PM
emulatorloo (37,999 posts)
4. Publisher needs to pull the book and sue Donna for defrauding them
Response to emulatorloo (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:05 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
9. Absolutely...she is a liar...soon to be a proven liar.
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:08 PM
StevieM (10,024 posts)
13. But will people accept something as insignificant as proof? These days it seems like once a lie
is believed nobody cares about the subsequent correction to the record.
That, of course, is how the GOP sold the fake email scandal. |
Response to StevieM (Reply #13)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:10 PM
emulatorloo (37,999 posts)
14. It isn't true and she should not profit off of pedaling untruths.
As to her consultancy career she's proven herself untrustworthy.
I was quite empathetic yesterday and giving her the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore. |
Response to emulatorloo (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:15 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
19. I saw your posts...you bent over backwards to be fair...as always.
Response to StevieM (Reply #13)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:14 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
16. Some will never believe that 16 was fair because they don't want to...
There will never be enough proof for this sort.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:15 PM
emulatorloo (37,999 posts)
18. They live in a bubble, truth doesn't penetrate it. You can see it at Reddit
They still believe in Pizzagate and so on.
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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #18)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:34 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
24. I go on Reddit too...but usually just lurk...they are vicious...and I take it personally when my
posts are voted down!
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:08 PM
Kirk Lover (3,608 posts)
12. Whooops Ok great....all is forgiven and we can all now move on. GREAT.
Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:15 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
17. I hope so...
But this shows how desperate some are to blame Democrats and the Party...very unsettling.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:19 PM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
20. Doesn't she describe a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey?
Which she took as him being magnanimous.
She called Bernie Sanders to tell him about all this, but first “I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.” (In fact, it turned out not to be an emotional call. Apparently Bernie didn’t care much.) http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/ |
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:29 PM
emulatorloo (37,999 posts)
23. Bernie probably understood she was mixing up two different agreements
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:35 PM
Demsrule86 (50,985 posts)
25. Sen. Sanders is smart...he knew the truth...probably used to ass kissers...who want something from
him.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #25)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:19 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
29. It is interesting that she did not get the reaction from him she thought was certain w/her findings
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #20)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:25 AM
yardwork (52,198 posts)
31. Brazile sounds mentally unstable.
Response to yardwork (Reply #31)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:30 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
33. Am not so sure of that. Seems passionate to me. I like her but disappointed w/her & this mess she
caused.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #33)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:32 AM
yardwork (52,198 posts)
34. She sounds overwrought, overly emotional.
Response to yardwork (Reply #34)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:36 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
35. We disagree on this point. She reached a mistaken conclusion that made her feel that way.
The whole of last year was dramatic. I am not trying to defend her here all the way, I just see her somewhat differently than you.
But still she caused damage to us with this self-enforced error. |
Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:48 PM
StevieM (10,024 posts)