Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:30 PM

trueblue2007 (13,149 posts)

on MSNBC right now Jeff Weaver is trashing the Democratic party

He is trashing Dems, Hillary.

When will this stop??? Bernie is coming after Democrats again? I'm sick about this !!!!!

My heart is breaking.
Dumb Donna's book is tearing apart our party.

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on MSNBC right now Jeff Weaver is trashing the Democratic party (Original post)	trueblue2007	Nov 2017	OP
Of course he is...	comradebillyboy	Nov 2017	#1
Weaver lied about Hillary all last year and now he is starting to do it again	trueblue2007	Nov 2017	#7
A book cannot tear a party apart	HipChick	Nov 2017	#2
The sudden infighting looks rather a lot like what Putin did to the 2016 election.	lagomorph777	Nov 2017	#3
This message was self-deleted by its author	trueblue2007	Nov 2017	#5
I don't think it's that serious....are we really fighting that much or are we just saying that we	Kirk Lover	Nov 2017	#4
Charming. Color me charmed.	Madam45for2923	Nov 2017	#6
Maybe he's redirecting attention from any questions about Tad Devine's links to Manafort,	pnwmom	Nov 2017	#8
? The current head of the DNC purged some long serving DNC members who were Sanders supporters	CentralMass	Nov 2017	#9
That's a lie.	FSogol	Nov 2017	#13
I don't believe that you are correct in calling it a lie.	CentralMass	Nov 2017	#16
Creative nitpicking, those articles are misleading & part of the scheme to bash/divide the party	FSogol	Nov 2017	#20
If NBC and Vanity Fair are being acused of dividing the party for reporting the news them we have a	CentralMass	Nov 2017	#23
Those stories did not originate at NBC and VF. Media outlets just play along these days.	FSogol	Nov 2017	#24
Well, we all have to read as much as possible and form our own opinions	CentralMass	Nov 2017	#25
Meanwhile, Trump goes on his merry way.	TheCowsCameHome	Nov 2017	#10
Donna must be retiring to Alaska The Last Frontier	Submariner	Nov 2017	#11
publishing a "tell all" she gets her hands on all that $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$	trueblue2007	Nov 2017	#15
donald drump...	quickesst	Nov 2017	#12
Post removed	Post removed	Nov 2017	#14
Weaver is a snake. Nt	NCTraveler	Nov 2017	#17
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2017	#18
Except she lied in her book	leftofcool	Nov 2017	#27
The same Weaver who said early on that Bernie could win without the black vote?	Blue_Tires	Nov 2017	#19
That would be the one.	ismnotwasm	Nov 2017	#21
how anyone can trash the D's	AmandaRuth	Nov 2017	#22
He is managing Sanders 2020 Presidential campaign.	NCTraveler	Nov 2017	#26
I don't think Bernie is doing it this time.....	LisaM	Nov 2017	#28
He is despicable. He just won't miss an opportunity to write the history books the way that he likes	StevieM	Nov 2017	#29
Weaver hurt Hillary bad. LYING in every single tv appearance. How could Bernie choose such sleaze?	trueblue2007	Nov 2017	#30
Bernie wants to run on the dem ticket in 2020 with Elizabeth Warren as VP.	Tavarious Jackson	Nov 2017	#31
And now I just heard some pundit on MSNBC repeat that lie--as if it were fact--that HRC "siphoned"	StevieM	Nov 2017	#32

Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:31 PM

comradebillyboy (8,414 posts)

1. Of course he is...

Jeff was never one to let truth get in the way of his narrative.

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:36 PM

trueblue2007 (13,149 posts)

7. Weaver lied about Hillary all last year and now he is starting to do it again

I can't stand that man.

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:32 PM

HipChick (24,850 posts)

2. A book cannot tear a party apart

If the party has a strong foundation, that is what we have to work on

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:32 PM

lagomorph777 (19,674 posts)

3. The sudden infighting looks rather a lot like what Putin did to the 2016 election.

Are we falling for more of his garbage? Again? Are we that stupid?

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:33 PM

Kirk Lover (3,608 posts)

4. I don't think it's that serious....are we really fighting that much or are we just saying that we

are??

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:36 PM

Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)

6. Charming. Color me charmed.

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:37 PM

pnwmom (103,822 posts)

8. Maybe he's redirecting attention from any questions about Tad Devine's links to Manafort,

since Tad worked in two different campaigns for the same pro-Putin Ukrainian candidate.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029788048

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:42 PM

CentralMass (10,347 posts)

9. ? The current head of the DNC purged some long serving DNC members who were Sanders supporters

and he reappointed a former vice chair and recently acting chair as a member. She as it happens just released a book about one of the last primaries candidates taking control of the DNC and alledgedly claimed that the election was rigged in her favor..

Are the russians behind this ?

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:53 PM

FSogol (40,711 posts)

13. That's a lie.

Divide, divide, divide! Didn't all the Sanders supporters want the DNC to be shook up?

You're all falling for classic division topics. Perez ousted some people for newer and younger folks. Among those added:

From the Hill:

A Democratic source told The Hill that Perez’s nominees would double the number of millennials and Native Americans currently represented at the DNC. It will also increase the DNC’s LGBT presence and representation from Puerto Ricans, at a time when Trump has been criticized for his response to the hurricane that has devastated the island territory.

Perez’s delegate slate also includes Ellie Perez, a so-called Dreamer — an immigrant brought to the U.S. without legal permission as a child — from Arizona, and Marisa Richmond, a transgender African-American woman. If Perez’s slate of delegates is approved, it would bring the total number of unions represented by at-large DNC members to 21, which the source said was the highest mark in years.

“This year’s slate of at-large DNC member nominees reflects the unprecedented diversity of our party’s coalition,” DNC national press secretary Michael Tyler said in a statement to The Hill......................................

Perez’s slate of delegates also includes several names that will be familiar in Washington and in Democratic circles, including former interim DNC chairwoman Donna Brazile.

Several supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) are also on Perez’s list, including former Sanders spokeswoman Symone Sanders.
...............
Two people who challenged Perez for DNC chair have been nominated — Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) and former South Carolina Democratic chairman Jaime Harrison. ..........................

Labor leader Randi Weingarten, who backed Ellison in the DNC chair race over Perez, is also nominated.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/355954-dnc-chairman-aims-for-diversity-with-delegate-nominations

These are great changes, imo. Don't fall for divisive tactics.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:36 PM

CentralMass (10,347 posts)

16. I don't believe that you are correct in calling it a lie.

Several credible msin stream website reported out on it.

NBC reported that "Those ousted include Ray Buckley, James Zogby, Alice Germond, and Barbara Casbar Siperstein, NBC News reports"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/shakeup-democratic-national-committee-longtime-officials-ousted-n812126

" Those who have been pushed out include

Ray Buckley, the New Hampshire Democratic chairman and longtime DNC official who ran against Perez for chair before backing Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn. Buckley lost his spots on the Executive Committee and DNC Rules Committee.
James Zogby, the president of the Arab American Institute and prominent Sanders backer, is no longer co-chair of the Resolutions Committee and is off the Executive Committee, a spot he has held since 2001.
Alice Germond, the party’s longtime former secretary and a vocal Ellison backer, who was removed from her at-large appointment to the DNC.
Barbra Casbar Siperstein, who supported Ellison and Buckley, was tossed from the Executive Committee."

VANITY FAIR also reported on it.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/tom-perez-dnc-shake-up

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:44 PM

FSogol (40,711 posts)

20. Creative nitpicking, those articles are misleading & part of the scheme to bash/divide the party

For example: Zogby was named a super delegate, that hardly is a demotion. Other Sanders supporters and people who didn't support Perez were added.

The people against the status quo are now complaining that changes were made.

Bottom line: Perez’s nominees would double the number of millennials and Native Americans currently represented at the DNC. It will also increase the DNC’s LGBT presence and representation from Puerto Ricans. It also brings the total number of unions represented by at-large DNC members to 21, which the source said was the highest mark in years.

unprecedented diversity is what is being attacked. Malcontents will gripe no matter what is done. How does that differ from the GOP and other ratfuckers attacking us?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:58 PM

CentralMass (10,347 posts)

23. If NBC and Vanity Fair are being acused of dividing the party for reporting the news them we have a

a problem.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:03 PM

FSogol (40,711 posts)

24. Those stories did not originate at NBC and VF. Media outlets just play along these days.

No acknowledgment that the changes at the DNC to increase diversity were good?

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:07 PM

CentralMass (10,347 posts)

25. Well, we all have to read as much as possible and form our own opinions

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:46 PM

TheCowsCameHome (39,907 posts)

10. Meanwhile, Trump goes on his merry way.

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:48 PM

Submariner (11,180 posts)

11. Donna must be retiring to Alaska The Last Frontier

or some other off grid cave, because she certainly won't be welcome around Democratic Party circles anymore.

It's too bad because she was a good even handed commentator, now just a bitter bomb thrower I do not care to hear from again. Whatever her beef with Hillary, it could have been handled between them.....but then I guess there would not be any book money without the drama.

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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:56 PM

trueblue2007 (13,149 posts)