FUCK OFF!

[Glamrock]

Goddamnit man! I've been coming here daily since W. and I've never seen such ridiculous infighting as we have right now. We should be ashamed of ourselves.

There are goddamn nazis marching in our streets. Let me repeat that. THERE ARE GODDAMN NAZIS MARCHING IN OUR STREETS GODDAMNIT! The majority is trying to raise taxes on the least fortunate among us while simultaneously lowering taxes on the most fortunate. They're doing everything they can to slash Medicare and Medicaid. We have a "president" who doesn't have the brains God gave to my boots who's blundering into what could possibly be WWIII while using signing statements to destroy the environment. And then there's the long list of cabinet appointees who were put there to sabatoge everything their departments where created to do. I could go on and fucking on and fucking on.

But every day, every fucking day, I've got to wade through:
-He doesn't have a (D) after his name! He doesn't have the right to criticize! Blah blah blah.
-Hillary, who bailed out the fucking broke ass DNC rigged the primary. Blah blah blah.
-Why is the male who had the largest grassroots fundraising results speaking at the Womens Conference? Blaha blah blah.
-She's the establishment! Blah blah blah.
-And on and fucking on and fucking on.

Are you kidding me DU? Are you fucking kidding me? It's high fucking time we got our heads out of our asses and focus on the Juggernaut that's trying to turn this country into a Oligarchy. I'm not embarrassed to admit there are people on this board that are smarter than me and we need to focus our attention on what ideas and strategies we can rally around to turn the tide. Every hour we spend fighting each other is another nail in the coffin of these United States. The very stake of our nation is in jeopardy.

P.S. For those that want to reply "I can do two things at once", go fuck yourself. You're part of the problem. The greatest enemy this country has ever encountered is at the healm.

UNITE MOTHERFUCKERS! UNITE! BURY THE GODDAMN HATCHET!

P.P.S.
By all means, attack me and continue fighting each other. It's what I expect. God help us...

[PJMcK]

1. You rock, Glamrock! (n/t)

[Glamrock]

3. Thanks,

I fully expected the first reply to tell me how wrong I am...

[Old Vet]

64. Glamrock, Youre my new hero,

[True Blue American]

153. You are absolutely right

In every word you posted.

A 5 Star Post! Thank you.

[joshcryer]

2. I said this when the first infighting threads came out:

We're fucked. We've learned nothing.

[ananda]

87. There could be Russian trolls sowing discord.

I'm pretty they're the ones that hacked the site too.

[Juliusseizure]

97. I assume a lot of trolling

Russians and US trolls engulf ALL social media to sew discord to deflect.

Russians posed as Sanders voters. This is known

[IndianaDave]

116. I think so, too! We're stronger and better than they are. We also have to be alert and assertive!

[Raster]

120. Russian trolls, my ass...

Last edited Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:19 PM - Edit history (2)

... We're STILL refighting/reliving/rehashing the last primary on a daily fucking basis, and there are still groups of persons idolizing/aggrandizing/promoting and demeaning/slandering/insulting persons instead of looking past their personalities and positions (current and previous) to ACTUALLY FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND SITUATIONS AT HAND.

That's why WE lost, and that is why there is a madman in the White House.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

4. K & R!

[DURHAM D]

5. You should have addressed your remarks to Donna and Elizabeth. nt

[Glamrock]

8. Thank you!

I new I wouldn't be let down.

[LexVegas]

42. "knew". nt

[Glamrock]

54. Don't make me start another rant Led!

Thanks, didn't notice....

[fleur-de-lisa]

99. 'Lex" nt

[ehrnst]

29. +1000. (nt)

[Raster]

121. sorry, there's plenty to go around...

...for example EVERYONE that wrote their own what happened/tell all/my take book since the tRump* Selection has done nothing but throw red meat to their respective hangers-on. That includes Bernie, Hillary, Donna, and Liz.

Over it!

[awesomerwb1]

6. I share your frustration

It's unbelievable how dumb dem leadership can be.

bannon/trump are laughing their @sses off AND THANKING the dems.

I'd get banned if I were to tell you what my opinion always has been about Donna Brazile.

I can't wait to see who the next ***self censored*** is to come out with a book.

[calimary]

91. Not a fan of hers either.

I'll just leave it at that.

[guillaumeb]

7. Recommended.

[workinclasszero]

9. It's all part of Putin/Trump's plan

They play the left like a fiddle, works every time.

Soon we will be slaves in a nazi theocratic state but fuck it.

I am heartsick over this bullshit that never ends.

[PatrickforO]

80. No shit.

And we fall for it EVERY TIME.

EVERY TIME.

Makes me want to puke.

[workinclasszero]

85. I guess we all have to wake up under a bridge in the middle of winter

with a republican jackboot on our throats before we can get together to fight the nazis taking over this country.

I will never understand it, never.

[Onyrleft]

10. First one with a negative comment is a Russian trollbot.

The butthurt crying over the primary has to stop. We have to work together, even if someone only agrees with you 90% of the time.

[Corvo Bianco]

11. Lordy lordy help us

[hlthe2b]

12. Just hide, delete or pass by those threads... That's what I've done for more than 16 years...

(nothing new under the sun and this too shall pass)

[Glamrock]

14. Generally, I do.

I scroll down to the comments, see the circular firing squad, and exit stage right. Not really my point though...

[BigmanPigman]

24. I started to do that too.

I purposely try not to respond or even mention anything related to Bernie, the DNC or current bashing since I know that no matter what I write it is taken the wrong way by somebody. None of the Dems I know ever mention this stuff, only here on DU. I am so glad I didn't even know about DU before Jan. It would have turned me off with all the infighting.

[Autumn]

13. Thanks for this

[NurseJackie]

15. I do not have an infinite number of cheeks to turn.

As long as the smears and lies and attacks persist, I'll respond and debunk.

Cope.

[Glamrock]

17. Nor does the other side.

Everyone thinks their point is right and valid. I'm a Bernie supporter. Check my history. It's been a long time since I had shit to say about Bernie or attacking whoever. Not responding will kill these threads in a minute. I just hope you can cope with another GOP win because we couldn't see the forest for the trees.

[NurseJackie]

22. Nobody is attacking Bernie. But when someone attacks Democrats and the Democratic party...

... expect a response.

Not responding will kill these threads in a minute.

Not responding and not debunking allows this place to become JPR.

I just hope you can cope with another GOP win because we couldn't see the forest for the trees.

The sky is falling, eh? I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but this little site isn't as influential as you may think it is. It's nice and all. It's fun to participate at. But it's no Facebook. It's no Huffington Post. It's no Politico or Daily Beast or Kos.

I do not attack anyone, but I'll never remain silent and let the lies go unanswered. I'll respond and debunk every time. Deal with it.

[Glamrock]

31. Do what you gotta do Jackie.

Do what you gotta do. I'm going to focus exclusively on the destruction of the country. I won't respond to posts (generally, depends on how much I've had to drink I guess) that bash my political hero because it only serves to sow more discord. Feel free to do what you will. It's still a free a country....for now anyway.

[NurseJackie]

32. Again, you overestimate the influence of this site.

It's just a fun place to hang out and discuss/argue about politics. I'm not inclined to let it become JPR-II for the sake of an unfounded fear that online bickering and debunking will cause Democrats to lose to Republicans.

That's a fear that's just not very realistic.

[Glamrock]

41. With all due respect

And I mean that. Ive been reading your posts for years. Wouldn't we be best served developing strategies as opposed to what I listed in the thread?

Also, this site is a sampling of what's going on in our society in general if you ask me. But that's just my opinion.

[NurseJackie]

61. Allowing JPR and other kooky extremists to take over DU...

... is hardly a realistic or practical way to develop effective strategies. Fuck JPR... Fuck Stein... Fuck Sarandon... Fuck the party haters... Fuck the liars.

Feel free to do as YOU please in conceding this site to that unsavory element. It's good to know where everyone stands.

[SunSeeker]

66. +1

[Glamrock]

72. I'm not conceding fuck all

Reread my post. It was directed at everyone. Not just Hillary supporters.

[NurseJackie]

76. Uh-huh. Whatever.

[Glamrock]

79. I agree

Whatever...

[LiberalLovinLug]

141. "...conceding this site to that unsavory element"

And that "unsavory element" is those that see monsters under every bed and use every opportunity to sow discord on here.

DU has pretty strict rules on behaviour. And "kooky extremists" that register and post unsavory content will soon be sent off. I'm sure you've been busy yourself alerting posts left and right. There's a difference between some troll with only a few posts that registers for the sole purpose of disruption and the opinions of seasoned DUers with thousands of posts. You don't seem to differentiate between them other than they don't have the same irrational personal hatred toward one of our most important and popular allies.

And what is most disturbing is that you seem to have zero clue how supporting this kind of disruption and sowing discontent, is counter productive. That you seemingly are proud of it and will continue. Promoting a "you're either with us or with the terrorists" view that reduces discussion into which side you are on, "where everyone stands" is a slap in the face to the notion of open debate. That there are no grey areas, and thus nothing to discuss. No possibility that anyone could ever convince you to let go of bitterness and work together. ie..a critique of the party's strategies because they've been losing so much in the last decade is an "attack", even though other prominent Democrats have said the same thing.

Hillary has/had faults, and Bernie has/had faults. And Hillary has great qualities and a history of working hard in helping Americans in a positive way. And Sanders has great qualities and a history or working hard in helping Americans in a positive way. No that doesn't mean they get off scott free. Hillary and the DNC were at the helm in the campaign. Sanders had no more influence after she adopted some of his platform and he endorsed her. it is only natural, after such a loss, to self examine and critique those that actually were in charge of winning.

Sanders had nothing to do with Hillary losing the general. Even if it was mostly Russia, and GOP voter suppression, the DNC and the Clinton campaign must share at least a part of the blame. Even she admits as much. On Bernies end, of course there are issues that he can be criticized. Like his voting record on protecting gun manufacturers from litigation for instance. But surely all hard work to defeat Trump and promote Democrat policy has to weigh in on his favor over all.

Russian trolls infiltrated Bernie sites to sow discord. Yes.. so how is this the fault of Bernie supporters, of whom there are many on DU still? Most saw through those trolls btw, thanks in large part to Sanders who was perpetually reminding everyone to stay focused on the issues, not on the "damn emails" or any other faux scandal. Any person on those sites that fell for that was most likely a few bricks shy, and never going to vote for Hillary anyways. So that effect was negligible. It seems like just the fact that he exists, that he dared to challenge the Clinton machine, is enough to shower him with derision, and by extension, anyone that dared to think he'd have been a better choice than Hillary.

Let . It . Go .

[NurseJackie]

142. LOL!

[LiberalLovinLug]

143. Well, at least you got a laugh out of it

I guess thats something

[DLevine]

16. K&R

[Pepsidog]

18. Onl through unity will we defeat the despots

[world wide wally]

19. I gotta say that I agree with the OP ...

And every little squabble we have just makes Trump stronger.
If we stayed at peace with each other, he would probably be gone by now!... Or never would have gotten in.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

20. Bravo! Also add to the Nazis in the streets: more climate change, extinction of wildlife and people

eventually. It will be the poor who will be affected first though. The wealthy will build homes that can stand up to any natural disaster (hurricanes, tornados, fires, floods, etc)

[blueinredohio]

21. I'm with you Glamrock we've got to come together

[CanonRay]

23. Thank you, enough is enough...it is now in the history books. Fuck it.

[NRaleighLiberal]

25. Exactly.

[CaptainTruth]

26. Wow! Thank you for saying it.

I'm sick of the infighting & "purity tests" too.

IMHO if we Dems want to be a majority party again we need to embrace the concept of "coalition government" as many of our colleagues around the globe have learned to do.

Infighting & "purity tests" will guarantee we remain a minority party. Is that what we want?

[randr]

27. Don't let the trolls get to you

Anyone who would throw shade at any Democrat at this point is suspect. Our issue is with the hateful frightwingers and not each other. Anyone who would disagree should be considered at Russian troll.

[SHRED]

28. GOOD RANT

[Perseus]

30. Ignore the trolls

these may be Russian trolls, they are everywhere.

Once completely ignored, they will go away, so instead of getting angry and desperate, IGNORE, IGNORE.

[Glamrock]

33. I'm hip.

But unfortunately, I'm talking about regular posters here. There are diehards on both sides that can't just let shit alone no matter what.

[Maraya1969]

38. +1000 But I say alert and not just ignore

The best way is to stay vigilant and look closely if someone seems to be trying to start a fight.

[Maraya1969]

34. I got a sickening feeling while reading your post. We are infighting, we are creating chaos

Is that someone's plan?

We need to start alerting on people who are trying to start fights. We can't allow anyone to create a divide here.

[tomp]

35. 1) settle down before you have a stroke.

2) tell us how to unite when the two major wings of the party have such differing ideas about the way forward.

I'm not against a temporary compromises of some sort in the interest of defeating trump and the republicans. However, that does not mean everyone should fall in line behind Hillary (I know that's not what you said but that's what many seem to be saying or implying here).

the left wing of the party must be given credence and influence. the times demand a change from the status quo. without a move to the left within the Democratic Party I believe we will see moe third party candidates.

[Glamrock]

44. I'm not gonna have a stroke brother.

I, personally, would like to see us as united as we once were against a certain douche called W.

[leftofcool]

53. It won't happen

As long as you have far left extremists who go out every single day to Bash Democrats and stomp their feet because they didn't get their way, as long as you have good Democrats willing to bail out a broke DNC then get blasted for doing so and as long as you have moderate Democrats in power doing everything they can do to help us, but receiving no support from Democrats, there can be no unity. As for our house, we no longer care what most Democrats do or say about each other, about Hillary and about good Democrats in power. The party has fucked itself over and we will lose in 2018 and in 2020 because of it. You might just as well try nailing Jello to a tree if you think you can unify the Democratic Party. The good ones have given up on it. Ask Howard Dean. Ask Hillary. Ask Tim Kaine.

[liquid diamond]

86. Thank you. Ive been afraid to say it.

We are screwed in 2018.

[leftofcool]

105. I'm not afraid of the truth

You are right, we are screwed. At our house, there are about 5 politicians we trust and one is Hillary who is no longer a politician and Bill so that leaves 3 Democrats who we believe are even worth our spit.

[shanny]

107. "far-left extremists"

it's a terrible horrible radical very bad thing to fight for 15, free college (like other first-world countries), universal health care (like other first-world countries), etc.

far left my ass

[Ligyron]

122. Exactly.

This country is so far behind the rest of the civilized world.

[shanny]

128. one could even say exceptionally far behind

[tomp]

133. you might want to have a word with....

...the Obamas, the Clintons, and the media who are in the process of rehabilitating both bushes. and remember how many dems voted to allow bush to invade Iraq, including one Hillary Clinton. also remember the country went to 90% support for bush after 9/11, including many dem politicians and rank-and-file dems.

that kind of unity is part of our problem,

[underpants]

36. ✅

Rec'd

[Bettie]

37. The good thing is that

there are only really a handful of people who really, really want to hold on to their primary grudges.

They are just really, really vocal about it.

Yeah, the guys trying to utterly destroy us are the ones we should fighting, not each other.

[maxrandb]

39. Russian Trolls infiltrate DU Too!

Anyone on this damned site that wouldn't vote for Genghis Kahn if he was running as a Dem needs to fuck off.

These Retrumplicans are destroying our country... and if you don't think they'd kill Democrats and liberals in the fucking streets, you're kidding yourself.

I will vote for any and all Democrats, because I don't give a shit if they just agree with me on 10% of the issues. 10% is a hell of a lot better than ZERO!!

And... Paul fucking Ayn Rand Ryan won't be speaker.

[benfranklin1776]

40. A righteous rant with which I wholly agree.

When the house is burning, which our country is, you don’t focus on killing your housemate as, in the end, you both die. The fire is very real and poses an existential threat to our democracy and our survival like nothing before, so the laser focus should be on 2018 as we need Congress to impeach this criminal traitor and start undoing his murderous actions as well as taking every possible seat down the ballot to implement policies that will save and enhance the lives of every American

[Kirk Lover]

43. I think everyone who has a like mind should swear off any of those thread or posts.

If enough people do it I would think this would die off. We must keep our eyes on the prize.

[Randomthought]

45. Thank you

[dogandturtlemom]

46. Unite

I agree, and we do that by spreading our arms wide, not by excluding any. Perez needs to bring back those who are Bernie wing, not exclude them. We need to reach out to those who did not vote as well as those who voted third party. This needs to be at all levels of government!

[leftofcool]

47. Can you tell that to Donna B and Liz Warren?

And a few others.

[dogman]

48. So we have to live in an alternative reality to defeat T-Rumps alternative reality.

The truth shall set you free.

[bluepen]

49. The good news is that the future of the country will not

hinge on what happens on this website. I wouldn’t look at this as representative of the tens of millions of registered and voting Democrats.

The vast majority are going to rally around the party nominee at election time because the vast majority don’t base anything on the whims of day-to-day soundbites and talking points.

Most people don’t even watch the babbling cable news hosts whose paychecks depend on getting people riled up on a nightly basis.

This will work itself out.

[Va Lefty]

50. Thank you Glamrock!

[Freethinker65]

51. Thanks

[Jakes Progress]

52. Russian meddling doesn't just work on republicans.

A lot of short-sighted Democrats fall for all the crap too.

Putin is reading this sight and laughing his ass off.

[relayerbob]

55. 100% agreed

We need to quit getting distracted by stupid bullshit and petty he-said, she-said and keep our eyes on the ball .... all of our futures are at stake.

[Curtis]

56. As a life long Dem

I will say you are right 100 percent.

I also will mention that I spent almost 20 years working in the political field beginning as a volunteer, working for the UFW and other orgs as the dreaded community organizer, through running my own business as a campaign manager to even running for the State Assembly. When I was done with my own campaign, I was done. I was so turned off and disgusted by how the Dems would just turn on one another and let the less popular GOP candidate waltz through to victory. I saw it too many times and it still happens.

That's why I live nestled in a small (less than 1000 people) mountain town in northern California in the summer and a sailboat in the Caribbean in the winter. I will still support, argue and vote Democratic, but I no longer put myself out there no matter the people who have asked me to jump back into it.

[StrictlyRockers]

57. I totally agree, the divisiveness on this forum is kind of gross.

We are STRONGER TOGETHER.

If all we do is form a circular firing squad and engage in infighting, the Rethuglicans will hardly have to do anything to beat us.

[Clarity2]

58. I dont fall for the propaganda

I see a lot of high profile "conservative fake anti-trumpers" on twitter pulling out these stories on clinton that serve to trash her. I know what theyre doing. Theyre trying another tactic to sow discord with the party. People see it as legit since they are "anti-trump" and Mainstream ends up legitimizing it in some ways.

im still with Her. Nothing can make me think less of her. Lots of people out there whom we may have trusted in the past who have ill intentions now or maybe always had ill intentions and are now showing their colors. Nothing will make me leave the party, unless they did a complete switcheroo in ideology like what happened long, long ago. Which of course isnt going to happen in my lifetime.

[Mr. Evil]

59. Most people tend to forget that most of Bernie's

base and voters are registered Democrats. I supported Sen. Sanders during the primary and voted for HRC in the general. I knew what was at stake. I think what goes beyond the B vs. H argument is the fact that the DNC refuses to adopt anything that may have a 'progressive' label to it. They don't get what turns several million voters off is their undying loyalty to the corporatist and Wall St. crowd. I think many would agree that the tenure of Debbie Wasserman Schultz while at the helm of the DNC was a disaster. I haven't heard anything out of Tom Perez that gives me hope that they'll try to at least adopt some of the progressive agenda for the future. That, at least, would be the beginning of the healing.

[The Wizard]

60. Russian bots and Repubics

troll this site. I usually ignore them. Maybe they should be reported.

[Rebl2]

69. I agree with

you. I think are they are trolling and causing this division.

[bronxiteforever]

62. This to the nth degree! K and R

[coolsandy]

63. I share your angst and frustration. But what does one do when the attacks keep coming. Let them go

unanswered? Should we not attempt to set the record straight. Should we not uphold long-standing Democratic ideals and historical accomplishments.

What to do?

[Glamrock]

73. My opinion?

Don't let them bait you.

[Blue_Tires]

65. EPIC KICK

[locks]

67. This does not reflect

at all with what I read on DU.

[iluvtennis]

68. Two words, "well said". My sentiments exactly. nt

[Butterflylady]

70. Finally

A post I don't have to trash. Thank you.

[liquid diamond]

71. I will stop when he does. Deal?

[Glamrock]

78. Unless you're talking about Trump,

No!

[liquid diamond]

89. Very well. Round and round we go.

[Hekate]

95. To whom are you referring? Which "he"?

[Enoki33]

74. This is much more than a rant. For the wise it is a call to

decide priorities, to evaluate and decide what roles we want to play and how we deal with those that seek to divide. Those that seek to divide for insular reasons make people like Bannon and Miller the beneficiaries. If we want to save our country we have to unite. And it begins here. Please listen again to that heartfelt appeal to unite.

[YOHABLO]

75. Yeah Democrats need to get focused .. really focused. Stop the infighting.

We need Big League Dems to come out and rally up the voters. People like Finegold, Gore, Dean, Clinton, Warren etc etc.. we've got to get a grip. Perhaps you all could think of other players who might make a difference.

[PatrickforO]

77. Good message. Hope we can all heed it and refrain

from getting ourselves worked up over pet issues, get together, work together and start winning elections.

[NoMoreRepugs]

81. Sometimes I do wonder if there are other members

here who enjoyed fighting, I mean fist fighting when they were younger, or is everyone a Caspar Milktoast and that's beneath us? Just wondering.........

Cuz what's coming isn't going to be for the faint of heart.

Not saying u need to coldcock some frickin teabagger, but if you've never taken shit from ANYBODY you know what I mean.

[kimbutgar]

82. Yes, right on.

[ProfessorGAC]

83. What Glamrock Said

Like you, I've nearly been here from the start!
Geez, let's keep our eyes on the real fucking problem
OK, earlier today, Baines Bain turned me on to some ugliness I missed, and it disgusted me. I should have been more vigilant, but this bullshit is getting ridiculous!!!!!
There is ONE enemy!
Enough!!!!l

[Lifelong Protester]

84. We Dems. need to get a grip.

We need to stop infighting to win.

[left-of-center2012]

88. Ironically ...

Each time I call for civility, unity and our need to focus on 2018 and 2020,
I get attacked.

We need stop the circular firing squad.

[Ilsa]

90. Thank you. You are absolutely right.

They WANT to DIVIDE US.. Just like they want California to secede. Or Texas. Or the South. Or what-the-fuck-ever!

We will not win back Congress and our Legislatures and Assemblies if we are distracted by fighting old battles that get us no where. We must stand united.

[lancelyons]

92. Go vote and get your friends to vote

[Hekate]

93. I'm with you, Glamrock. Just today DU had more calls to unseat Nancy Pelosi because she won't...

...lead the House Minority of a cliff like a bunch of lemmings, and bashing Hillary for being smart and experienced enough to work the system to become our presidential nominee, and bashing Hillary for being adroit enough to raise money for the DNC (iow for all Dems) as well as for her personal campaign, and accusing Hillary of being the one who colluded with the Russians instead of being their victim.

And these asinine, even lying, statements found support here. So, Glamrock, what you just said.

[Demsrule86]

112. Well said.

[CousinIT]

94. THANK YOU. n/t

[Iggo]

96. Absolutely.

[blue-wave]

98. You are

spot-on 100% absolutely correct. I'm certainly not as active on this site as other members, but those who attempt to divide us are very suspect in my eyes. They need to be called out and ostracized. Thanks for posting this and I hope you re-post and re-post if need be.

[MarvinGardens]

100. K & R !

The infighting, and the defeatist "we're screwed, we'll never win again" posts, we can do without. Thank you!

[liberalla]

101. UNITE!! is right!

Thank you!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

102. 👍🏾. n/t

[DonCoquixote]

103. this, this and this

THANK YOU

[burrowowl]

106. You are right!

Wonder where these idiots posts come from?
DU needs to get its act together to win in 2018!

[worstexever]

108. K & R

Let's get rid of the snakes in the @#_&+% White House, starting with the Candy Corn Skidmark at the top. There's no time to rehash 2016.

[JeaneRaye]

109. Thanks!

Thanks for saying it! I am sick of the infighting also!

[alicenuffer]

110. Fuck Off

I totally agree!

[VOX]

111. HELL YES!

When the fucking house is on fire, you don’t get in a scrap over carpet samples.

[Docreed2003]

113. FUCK YEAH MAN....Awesome message, agree 100%

BTW, hope you are well!! Stay safe on the road!

[Sancho]

114. Well said...thanks...

[DeeDeeNY]

115. Spot on!

[BlueJac]

117. I am with you.....

stop the hating.

[mindfulNJ]

118. I am so depressed this morning

Eating our own again. So sick of it.

[Pompoy]

119. The problem with the Democratic Party is the divide

We have to engage the Sanders supporters and show them the only way for the Democrats to succeed is by being united. They are poised to once again divide the Party in 2020. They are not being reasonable, they are being rebellious. This is a two party system, any 3rd party will doom the Democrats to lose again, when we are on the right side of the issues, compared to the Republicans.
Presidential elections are hard fought affairs, but you can't lose sight of the big picture. Che Guevara clones are not going to win the Presidency.

[The Polack MSgt]

125. +1

And welcome to DU

[spicysista]

123. yup!

This is a great rant! It's perfectly okay for you to do so in this space. I hope that you were able to feel some sort of satisfaction after posting. Consider that others, real people and not trolls, may need to do the same from time to time.
Sometimes, posters say that they just need to back away to save their sanity. You may want to do the same. Take care of yourself and come back when you are ready. This situation can be toxic if you're not mentally/spiritually fortified against the negativity.
I hope you can see past the hurt to see the hopeful things going on. For example, in 2015 during an off season election, Louisiana elected a democratic governor. The first thing Gov. Edwards did was to expand Medicaid. The capitol city of Baton Rouge elected its first female mayor. She ran on a platform that focused extensively on social justice.
Take courage, Glamrock! There are good things going on under the surface. Powerful, results oriented work is being done by the people that have been the rock of the democratic party for the last 50 years. There have always been these divisions throughout our party. We will be okay. I hope that you will continue to stand with us.

[Glamrock]

147. +1

[elias7]

124. !!!!!!

[c-rational]

126. I agree Glamrock, and am as perturbed. Others have noted these arguments increase as the rethugs

come under fire - keep the faith and Thank You for your post.

[geardaddy]

127. Huge K & R

[get the red out]

129. Yep

Same here.

[msdogi]

130. my sentiments exactly

great rant, and right on. Infighting at this critical time benefits no one but the disaster in the white house

[Blue_Roses]

131. Thank-you

Well said!

P.S. Have you ever thought about running for president?

[Glamrock]

148. Hell Yes!

I've also thought about winning the lottery.

[Puzzler]

132. Fuck yeah!!!!!!!!! K&R (n/t)

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[denvine]

134. Recommended! Couldn't agree more!

[hamsterjill]

135. Somehow, I've managed to stay out of the Bernie vs. Hillary contest.

For the most part, at least.

The primary is over. The election is over. We definitely need to concentrate on the here and now and getting rid of Trump.

But I can do that without forgetting what happened, and I sincerely feel that Hillary was robbed. So you will have to excuse me if I'm a little bit protective of her.

DU is a wonderful place and I like the back and forth here. I learn a lot from other posters. But the bottom line, it is what happens in the voting booth that makes the changes. So, cuss, discuss, rant, bitch, whatever makes you feel good - but when the time comes, VOTE.

[rtracey]

136. well

Well I understand the anger, but......Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939, with 22,000 hate-spewing American Nazis. Its been here since the inception. We just need to outclass it, fight it, live our lives... VOTE OUR REPS IN, VOTE THE REPUBS OUT

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[Glamrock]

149. Yeah but

that wasn't the beginning. It started small, and gained acceptance.

Agree with everything else though.

[rtracey]

151. not sure

Not sure that matters if it starts with 100,000 or 5, its still a movement that goes against the quality of our citizens.

[MountCleaners]

154. Don't forget our homegrown version....

The KKK. Now known as the Republican Party.

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[mvd]

137. Good thread

Yes, there are hurt feelings left after the primary, but this is all about more than 2 people (Hillary and Bernie). Our country is at stake with this madman PINO in the White House.

[Demsrule86]

138. Great post.

[BarbD]

139. I agree. We have to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative and

don't mess with Mr. Inbetween.

[Nitram]

140. Together we stand, divided we fall. A house divided against itself cannot stand.

[Scurrilous]

144. K&R

[lagomorph777]

145. 100% agree. I was very strongly opinionated in 2016. Now, fuck all that we have a TRUMP PROBLEM!!!

[adigal]

146. I refuse to even discuss this DNC stuff - and I loved Bernie

But the lunatic Nazi in the White House is trying to give himself a huge cut and bankrupt our country, and he is trying to get the Dept of Justice to go after his political opponents.

We have a real problem on our hands, folks. Let's pull together and take the House back in 2018.

[samplegirl]

150. Time for us to

All rise above the bullshit we have much bigger problems at hand!

[thegoose]

152. it's true!

Plan: get the Dems into a circular firing squad and Dump (and Pootie) can gloat over the carnage. That orange piece of shit is already braying about the proof of Crooked Hillary again. And his Trumpensteins will eat it up.