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Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:22 PM

Record-Melting Fall Heat Wave Bakes Southern California

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/record-melting-fall-heat-wave-bakes-southern-california
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It’s not every October 23 or 24 that millions of Americans are swathed in temperatures above 100°F. This week has done just that, bringing some of the toastiest weather ever observed in the United States during late October, and more pre-Halloween heat is on the way. By far the most scorching weather has been in Southern California, although it’s also been exceptionally mild this month in settings as far-flung as Michigan, Florida, and New England.

A multi-day summer-like heat wave kicked into high gear on Monday and continued Tuesday along and well inland from the California coast, from Santa Barbara through Los Angeles to San Diego. Dozens of locations record highs for the date and all-time highs for this late in the year, and Santa Ana winds kept the temperatures amazingly warm throughout Monday night. In Orange County, the city of Fullerton soared to 107°F on Monday. According to WU weather historian Christopher Burt, this is likely the hottest single temperature recorded anywhere in the United States so late in the year. Even Death Valley has never recorded a temperature this high after October 16 in any year! For comparison, the national U.S. record high for November is 105°F, most recently at Tustin Irvine Ranch, California, in 1997.

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Reply Record-Melting Fall Heat Wave Bakes Southern California (Original post)
malaise Oct 2017 OP
guillaumeb Oct 2017 #1
malaise Oct 2017 #2
guillaumeb Oct 2017 #3
Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #4
Initech Oct 2017 #5
malaise Oct 2017 #7
malaise Oct 2017 #6
Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #9
malaise Oct 2017 #10
R B Garr Oct 2017 #8
Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #11
R B Garr Oct 2017 #13
Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #15
Hortensis Oct 2017 #19
msongs Oct 2017 #12
JI7 Oct 2017 #14
Hortensis Oct 2017 #20
Hekate Oct 2017 #16
Hortensis Oct 2017 #21
Hekate Oct 2017 #22
Hortensis Oct 2017 #23
TeamPooka Oct 2017 #17
rufus dog Oct 2017 #18

Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:28 PM

1. Global warming is a hoax.

All a hoax. So say the oil companies.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:30 PM

2. Of course

and scientists will not be allowed to speak. Is it fascism yet?

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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:31 PM

3. Fascism stasrted in January in the US.

Now, we worship the Generals.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:42 PM

4. It's a glorious 98 degrees at Dodger stadium

That is, if you're not parked in the nose-bleeder sections still in the sunlight

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:43 PM

5. My car said it was 104.

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Response to Initech (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:45 PM

7. Damn

That's hot

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:45 PM

6. Is glorious the correct word here?

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:53 PM

9. ANYTHING below 98.6 is fine with me

That is, if I'm not doing physical work.

Oh, and like the cleché, it's a dry heat - 11 % humidity

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:56 PM

10. Better you than me

Too hot for me

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:50 PM

8. Im down by Union Station, and it said 103 in the car.

Supposed to be the hottest day ever for a World Series. Lucky you at Dodger Stadium. Enjoy!

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 09:17 PM

11. 98 degrees beats 38 degrees any day of the week

1997 World Series, Game 4

Oct. 22, 1997 in Cleveland, Ohio.

The Florida Marlins played Game 4 against the Cleveland Indians in a winter-like chill. At first pitch, the temperature was 38 degrees with a wind chill of 18 degrees. Snow flurries fell throughout the game and ice patches formed on the infield. This game is officially the coldest World Series game on record.

Oh, I'm in the Sacramento Valley watching the game on the television, and it's only 80 degrees. She Who Must be Obeyed says I get apple pie at the seventh inning stretch. Woohoo!!!

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 12:57 AM

13. Ah, sounded like you were at Dodger Stadium.

Well, hope you enjoyed the pie and the TV game! I only got to listen on the radio in traffic, drats. It’s still steamy hot outside here.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 01:26 AM

15. Steamy or stinky hot?

Stay safe; people get crazy after a few days of that Santa anas:



“There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a full glass of beer at a cocktail lounge.”


― Raymond Chandler, Red Wind: A Collection of Short Stories

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 02:12 AM

19. :) I felt that from Santa Anas occasionally, although

it was just a boring jitteriness and my husband didn't learn to hide the knives. When the last of tropical storm Irma was coming through for a couple days solid here in north Georgia I was remembering those days because I was enjoying the wind, watching the trees toss madly, hearing one come down now and then, feeling good in our cozy home in a way I didn't with LA's gravity winds. Completely different.

I used to appraise real estate in that weather and your words made me "feel" the memories. Miss a lot of things about LA, but not 103 in the car with the windows open.



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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 09:19 PM

12. sounds a tad hysterical that article. mostly a few degrees over 100+ year old records.

and btw these conditions occur every year and are not like mid-summer heat. Sept/Oct are typically the hottest months, more so than june july

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Response to msongs (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 01:11 AM

14. usually not this late into october

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 02:20 AM

20. Here in north Georgia, the shift from heat to chill that

used to happen right around the beginning of September just happened yesterday and today. Last week of October.

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Response to msongs (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 01:32 AM

16. Yesterday the thermometer under our eaves registered 107. Overnight it dropped to the 80s.

We don't have AC. Living in the Santa Barbara/Ventura region, we expected maybe one week a year to be the worst, and the rest quite pleasant. Not any more -- the change came on some years ago, and stayed.

"Hysterical"? I don't think so. Think wildfire.

We are in a drought that has lasted for years. The chaparral, the hills, the forests are all crispy. One survivor of the Santa Rosa Fire, where 8,500 buildings were leveled and several dozen people died, said the fire came on "like a blowtorch."

Well, yeah. Where I am we have almost zero humidity and the hot Santa Ana winds have been gusting over the past few days. Just one spark. A downed power line. A power tool where metal hits a rock. And we are having yet another heat wave.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 02:31 AM

21. Wildfire was exactly my first thought on reading Malaise's post.

Also, inevitably, when chatting with a friend in Culver City/Santa Monica this morning, although it's so heavily developed there, because you just can't help it.

At the time we moved away from SoCal, 7 of the past 9 years had had severe drought. Back then, though, the hundreds of houses between ours and the mountains north and south that formed our narrow valley still made me feel pretty secure. Fire'd be very unlikely to be able to get to us. Uhuh.

I'm sure you have your plans, Hekate. And you're obviously...alert.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 02:51 PM

22. Ironically, I used to have my plans all in place, but we moved this summer...

Aside from the inherent disorder of packing up 34 years of stuff, the geography is different. We moved to a small neighborhood tucked just behind some little hills. Through the gap in the hills we can see Ventura and the ocean, that close to us. Immediately outside our street is a crowded tract of houses -- nice, but crowded.

So now I am thinking about egress. Probably the best thing of all would be to get out of the neighborhood before the traffic jam. So I have to start mental inventory of what to grab, how to pack the cars, and how fast I can do that.

Note to self: When hubby settles down, we really need to replace the 1990 Camry wagon. My Honda sedan is the new car at age 11 years, but I would hate to trust my life to the Camry at this point.

As you can tell from the fact that we lived in our other house 34 years, we are no longer young. We both turned 70 this year, tho he is still working his job full time from home. The new house is, frankly, my dream home and I feel I am in the honeymoon phase of loving it. We bought it from a 90 year old couple who custom designed it 30 years ago, all on one level, with wide doors and hallways, built in bookshelves, woodwork ...sorry, I'll shut up. But the level of detail is staggering, and we never, ever could have done it ouselves.

What could we save? When I read some of the early stories about Santa Rosa in the LA Times, I admit I wept for those people, the living and the dead. Sometimes you just don't get a choice.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 05:05 PM

23. I think you're describing my dream home also,

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and how lovely to hear how happy you are with it. You also can't too describe much of that kind of detail for me, including views. That's a big part of why I became a real estate appraiser, to enjoy visiting properties. Some of them were up your way. Oh, well.

As you undoubtedly know, just having a plan in place creates peace of mind. An especially good thing when the worry is about something very unlikely to happen. Fire yes, out of control conflagration no.

At least those poor people provided valuable lessons for others. Above all the need for good, constant information, life-threatening surprises not allowed even if it required sleeping in shifts. New awareness of speed beyond anything we'd ever worried about. We're fortunate at our ages that we don't have children. Heat kept a garage door from opening.

I think I'd have two plans. One for a fastest bug-out in car or on foot as required: 0 packing, almost no grabbing. Similar to a basic weekend getaway's supplies stored in the car. Emergency items only in little backpacks or bags, including pull-on boots or heavy shoes, in a closet near the door. I wouldn't spend much money at all on it, but a pair of fire protective blankets stuffed in the boots would be nice for running through wind-borne cinders. All very basic and could be there all the time and mostly forgotten about. Living in SoCal taught us to always grab a case of water for the car as needed when shopping. Used to have a little paper notebook with contact information and passwords. Stupid, but at the moment I can't remember any of our kids' phone numbers completely. I never dial them.

And for more time to get away, a plan with a list. My purse! Not the time to forget that. Our phones and tablets and charge cords. Interesting to realize, most of our documentation's actually on line now. Inconvenient not to have it all complete and on paper in a nice folder, but the lamp on my side of our bed that my mother in law gave me 45 years ago is far more important. Family pictures (which actually should be replicated and stored on the cloud now, available to everyone) and any special jewelry. Favorite paintings and other irreplacables that say home to us would be above almost all practical items on my list. The stuff kept in the car would do for clothes if we found we were running out of time.

Of course insurance. Our home isn't nearly as architecturally special as yours, but we have replacement cost, and, like you, once the debris was hauled away we'd still have fine land to rebuild on.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 01:55 AM

17. I'm in Hueneme Beach in ventura and it's been hotter than hell here

and we never get the heat when it hits LA.
When we moved in here from the San fernado valley it was 103 in Woodland Hills and 72 here.
It was 100 the last two days and most houses around here don't have A/C.
Been working to keep the dog cool most of the time.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Oct 25, 2017, 02:11 AM

18. One more day! Then one more week.

 

It was 95 degrees about 90 minutes ago in the Irvine/Tustin Ranch area, 85 degrees now at 11 PM. Winds blowing at about 25mph. We get a fire with high winds and it could get really ugly, Napa/Sonoma Valley ugly. We have made it through two nights, if we make it through tonight we have a good chance to get through this fire season. High 80s for the rest of the week, wind has taken the moisture out of everything, my fescue glass feels like hay and the sprinklers ran yesterday.

We won't be fully out of danger until next week, but so far no fires. Cleaned out the garage as best as possible on Sunday, this weekend it will be clearing out all paint and flammable items.

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