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Who the fuck needs permission from legal counsel to fulfill a promise????? (Original Post) CatWoman Oct 2017 OP
His signature looks like a bunch of people in KKK hats. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #1
His handwriting only has hard edges. fierywoman Oct 2017 #8
Trump's signature looks like a klan rally Skittles Oct 2017 #2
Everything he says and does is wrapped in a lie. madaboutharry Oct 2017 #3
Thats the shittiest font Ive ever seen on WH stationary! Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #4
It could be a bit dodgy, legally. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #5
This guy is the Cliff Clavin of truth telling. world wide wally Oct 2017 #6
Don: "Give me some legal goobly-de-gook that lets me weasel out of this!" struggle4progress Oct 2017 #7
Ouch. safeinOhio Oct 2017 #9
Probably not. onenote Oct 2017 #14
At first I thought I hope they dont cash it Nevernose Oct 2017 #10
The father complained to Trump that his ex-wife was the beneficiary to the death benefits tammywammy Oct 2017 #12
Is there any reason to believe the PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #11
And notice the word "contribution", marybourg Oct 2017 #13
I may have missed something The empressof all Oct 2017 #15
Someone in bankruptcy. Maybe he is on #7 Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #16

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
3. Everything he says and does is wrapped in a lie.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:05 PM
Oct 2017

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"...my legal counsel has been able to finally approve...'

This is a lie. He made this up as an excuse for months going by without having sent the check. Trump can never take responsibility for anything, there always has to be a way to lay blame elsewhere. It is incredible.

What a pathetic excuse for a man.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,607 posts)
5. It could be a bit dodgy, legally.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:08 PM
Oct 2017

It's unusual, to say the least, for a president to personally pay a relative of a soldier killed in action. Survivors' benefits are paid to whoever the soldier listed as his beneficiary; in this case the soldier named his mother. Trump spoke to the father in one of his fake condolence calls, and the father complained that he wasn't getting any survivor benefits, so Trump blurted out that he'd send him $25K himself (doubtless not meaning a word of it). But the guy never got a check and mentioned it to the media, which put Trump on the spot. It's not illegal, per se, for him to give money to whomever he wants (although he hardly ever gives money to anyone), but it's a strange precedent and raises the question of what might happen if some other soldiers' survivors don't get the military survivors' benefits because they weren't named beneficiaries, and try to get Trump to pay them, too?

Of course, he made a gratuitous promise and was under no legal obligation to follow through on it, but once it became public he saw it would look bad if he didn't pay. $25K is probably what they find under the couch cushions at Merde-a-Loco, but "looking bad" is Trump's Kryptonite.

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
7. Don: "Give me some legal goobly-de-gook that lets me weasel out of this!"
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:09 PM
Oct 2017

Lawyer: "Nothing comes to mind"
Don: "Now I finally have my lawyer's permission!"

onenote

(42,598 posts)
14. Probably not.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:03 AM
Oct 2017

If the check was on a joint account, it could be considered a gift from both Trump and his wife, each of whom can make a gift of $14,000 without triggering the gift tax.

In addition, even if the gift was deemed to be solely from Trump and thus $12K over the current annual limit, whether it was taxable would depend on whether Trump has exceeded the lifetime exemption.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
10. At first I thought I hope they dont cash it
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:26 PM
Oct 2017

Then I thought “I don’t know what the payouts to fallen soldiers are. For the living, they can actually be pretty good, especially for the veterans that aren’t combat veterans.” (No disrespect intended. My foster son has seen more than any man should have in Afghanistan. One of my grandfathers stormed Normandy Beach; the other was base librarian about ten miles from where he lived; there’s a difference is all I’m saying).

And then I thought: “I hope they give all 25 grand to whatever charity President Dipshit would be most opposed to, and I hope regular folk like us make up the difference.”

So, DU, two questions:
What charity should Trump’s political-blood money go to? and
How can I give my own hard-earned cash to this family?

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
12. The father complained to Trump that his ex-wife was the beneficiary to the death benefits
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:41 PM
Oct 2017

The son listed his mother as beneficiary. That's the reason Trump gave him money.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
11. Is there any reason to believe the
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:39 PM
Oct 2017

letter and the check are real?

Considering that Trump never follows through on any promises of donating money, I'm not at all willing to buy this.

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
13. And notice the word "contribution",
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 11:50 PM
Oct 2017

rather than "gift", which would be the correct description. The greedy f*ck is going to try to deduct it from his taxes, which would be unlawful, since the recipient is not a charity.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
15. I may have missed something
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:51 AM
Oct 2017

What’s the story with Trump paying this family? I’m sure they aren’t the only folks who are having money troubles made worse by a death of a loved one killed in action. It seems weird to me. What am I missing

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