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Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:07 PM

 

Let's talk about conspiracy politics

Everyone on the right is screaming about the alleged horrors of identity politics. AKA when minorities (be they sexual, racial, or disabled) try to advocate for their interests (and only minorities despite white people doing it).

And we seem to be going on the defensive. Frankly, we should start taking the offensive and talking about the right's "conspiracy politics" that has paralyzed all levels of government to the point of being completely useless.


Can't do anything about mass shootings (even flag people who are amassing arsenals) because of conspiracy theorists.
Can't do anything about environmental disasters because conspiracy theorists fear it would lead to government takeovers
Corporate crimes have been routinely abetted by conspiracy theorists who are more afraid of hypothetical government crimes than they are of corporations committing actual crimes.
Can't get universal healthcare, or any attempts to bring healthcare costs down because conspiracy theorists are afraid of death panels.
If a disabled kid dies at school in a botched restraint done by unqualified people, the government won't do anything cause conspiracy theorists get the vapors.

Hell even at the local level we deal with these idiots

Try to improve public transit and you get the Agenda 21 people screaming that it's part of insidious plot to confiscate cars
Ya know why our child services system is such a fucking mess? Because if you funded agencies that investigate child abuse and stopped giving child abusers a million chances, a bunch of people (mostly fundies) start howling about persecution.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:25 PM

1. even simpler explanation as to why nothing is done...

Can't do anything about mass shootings (even flag people who are amassing arsenals) because of conspiracy theorists.

> Gun lobby aka Gun manufacturers

Can't do anything about environmental disasters because conspiracy theorists fear it would lead to government takeovers

>oil lobby aka oil companies (and coal)

Corporate crimes have been routinely abetted by conspiracy theorists who are more afraid of hypothetical government crimes than they are of corporations committing actual crimes.
Can't get universal healthcare, or any attempts to bring healthcare costs down because conspiracy theorists are afraid of death panels.

>insurance lobby aka insurance companies

If a disabled kid dies at school in a botched restraint done by unqualified people, the government won't do anything cause conspiracy theorists get the vapors.

>prison lobby aka private prison / security services.


ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY (first).

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Thu Oct 19, 2017, 03:47 AM

2. And the Internet has made it worse.

Now people can set up a YouTube channel or a blog and go on social media and spread this stuff faster than print, TV and radio could and without the built in limits that made old media somewhat sane. Fox News and talk radio could only go so far without losing sponsors but on the Internet you can actually gain more followers and more money by going off the deep end.

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Thu Oct 19, 2017, 04:41 AM

3. Start with "identity politics": OUR IDENTITY IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

The Democratic Party is made up of virtually the entire electorate (the best of Americans). Majorities, sometimes huge ones, of women, youth, working people, middle class people, wealthy people, across the racial, sexual and religious spectrum voted Democrat.

We include a full third of those notorious white working class men, in spite of this era of anxiety evoking change that benefits those who accept the challenge but not those who do not. Nearly half of older and retired people are Democrats or Democrat leaning.

We overwhelmingly include women voters. Women are half of all Americans and of all racial, religious and ethnic groups, and it's past time stop discounting that huge reality.



Yes, we were rejected in this era by a critical margin of white working class men who had once been with us, who were unwilling to meet the challenges of workplace change and are now angry and frightened to find themselves competing on less of a superior basis with women and minorities for jobs going the way of blacksmithing and ice cutting.

They instead voted with those conservative white voters who choose loyalty to what has become a white supremacy party that has been completely corrupted by racial and partisan hate and dark money. But many will be sorry because, quite simply, they don't belong with those people.

Bottom line, these are our party identities:
The Democratic Party of We the People, All the People
The Republican Party of White Supremacy and White Billionaires.



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