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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:22 PM

Trumps Gay Backers No Longer See Him as the Great Straight Hope

Trump’s Gay Backers No Longer See Him as the Great Straight Hope
The president pledged to be a champion of the gay community. Few believed him. Now, even those who did express disappointment.
ASAWIN SUEBSAENG SAM STEIN 10.12.17 5:00 AM ET

During his run for office, Donald Trump positioned himself as a champion of gay rights, someone who would bring the Republican Party into modernity on an increasingly settled civil rights cause. But well into his first year in the White House, those who hoped for the best have been disappointed and those who assumed the worst say their fears are realized.

The Trump administration’s record on LGBT issues has been defined by retrenchment, both sides concede. Many of the advances made under the Obama administration have disappeared, replaced by policies and directives that could have been written by an anachronistic social conservative instead of the cosmopolitan New York businessman occupying the Oval Office.

“Trump’s supporters like to say, ‘It’s not what he says, it’s what he does that matters.’ That’s definitely the case when it comes to issues affecting LGBT Americans,” said Jimmy LaSalvia, who started the now-defunct conservative gay rights group GOProud along with Barron.

“I never thought that Donald Trump was an anti-gay homophobe. I certainly didn’t think that when I met him back in 2011. But we’ve all learned a lot about who he really is since then. With his political pandering and posturing to endear himself to the intolerant wing of the GOP over the last few years, it doesn’t surprise me that this administration will go down as the most anti-LGBT in history.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-gay-backers-no-longer-see-him-as-the-great-straight-hope

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Reply Trumps Gay Backers No Longer See Him as the Great Straight Hope (Original post)
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:26 PM

1. .


wealth, gender & position will not protect you.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:26 PM

2. As Gomer Pyle would have said...

Surprise! Surprise!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:26 PM

3. Trump supporters claiming that they were mislead by a lifelong con man?

Poor Trump supporters. Join the growing crowd of disillusioned Trump voters, and join those of us who never believed he was anything but a lying con man.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:28 PM

6. They knew he was a snake when they backed him

Should be no surprise when he acts like a snake.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:29 PM

8. The fable of the scorpion and the frog. eom

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:34 PM

15. Exactly

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:26 PM

4. log cabins would make good crematoriums. nt

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:27 PM

5. If they *really* believed that, then I got nothin'

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:29 PM

9. IKR?

How damn stupid can people be? Its amazing really.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:33 PM

10. He chose a horrendous homophobe for his VP. How did they miss that?

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:35 PM

16. I got nothin

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:38 PM

17. Granted, there were a lot of useful idiots on the leftist punditsphere

Who did their damndest to grease the skids and get some oblivious readers to believe maybe Trump wouldn't be so bad, and in some ways he might even be better than Hillary (i.e., Glenn Greenwald among others promoting Trump as an anti-intervention peace candidate), and Trump himself cleverly co-opted a LOT of Bernie's language about "standing up to Wall Street", but anybody actually believing that shit was doing a little too much wishful thinking, or simply blinded by Hillary hatred...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:41 PM

20. OMG!

"promoting Trump as an anti-intervention peace candidate"

What a f***in joke huh?

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:29 PM

7. The only way Trump would ever actually care about gay rights is if he.....

1) Was gay.

and, more importantly

2) Was the only gay person in the world.


Otherwise, it doesn't actually concern him.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:33 PM

11. Those Few Who Believed Him

Were stupid to do so.

Just how the hell did people not see that dolt45 was a conman that even PT Barnum would think goes too far? Do they even realize it now?

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:33 PM

12. given all the hate he spews everywhere, why should they have thought they would be exempt?

to be fair, it did seem, for most of his campaign, that while he spewed hate almost everywhere, he seemed to avoid lgbt, or at least the topic managed not to come up, at least not much.

but haters gotta hate, and it was inevitable that he would hate on lgbt just like he hates on anyone who isn't white christian able-bodied european-american male. add cis-straight to that list.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:34 PM

13. They were fools to follow Trump

Anybody who believed one single word of Trump's promises deserves the disappointment that they are experiencing.

The man's history was clear and obvious to anyone with a brain.

Stupid suckers.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:34 PM

14. Wishful thinking? Just plain stupid? Desperate?

Why? Why would anyone believe him about supporting equal rights?

“I never thought that Donald Trump was an anti-gay homophobe.


Really? Based on what exactly?

But we’ve all learned a lot about who he really is since then."


Trump is now exactly who he has always been.




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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:38 PM

18. This was patently obvious during the campaign. He would say anything but not know or believe it.

He never expressed any concern for or knowledge of policy apart from hating anything Obama supported. He told people what they wanted to hear even though he likely immediately forgot what he just said.

Not only that but his history of racism both before and during the campaign, why did people think he wasn’t also homophobic. Those two forms of bigotry walk hand-in-hand (usually with multiple forms of religious bigotry). None of this should be a surprise to anyone.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:39 PM

19. Anyone who's not straight and white and male is immediately suspect in #45's "mind."

And even if you're a straight white male, there's a chance you could be (gasp) a left-wing ideologue.

Which is why #45 has surrounded himself with some of the most twisted, hateful, emotionally damaged people available. Has there ever been a weirder, more far-right-wing cabinet?

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:43 PM

21. My guess is they knew but had a false interpretation of the times

they probably figured sense society had been moving in their direction over recent years they would be safe even with a 70 year old racist white man as president. So the well to do voted for a repuke to get their tax cuts. Greed plain and simple. If they were not well to do and voted for Trump then that's just stupid I got nothing for it.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:54 PM

22. Idiots

As a gay man, I'd never vote for Trump or his ilk. How can these people possibly not see what he is all about?

I've only personally known a couple of conservatives in the LGBT community. One grew up in a wealthy family and was a snotty college aged brat nobody wanted anything to do with. The other some kind of religious nut who threw a wet blanket on every event he attended. I'd imagine either of them would gladly vote for Trump.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:06 PM

23. Oh really?! What happened?....







.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:56 PM

24. Chickens for Colonial Sanders 2016

Bunch of fucking suckers.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:03 PM

25. Fools.

Most likely didn't want to vote for a woman.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:07 PM

26. He said he was the Greatest supporter of gays

MAGA

Morons Are Governing America

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:12 PM

27. I wonder what clued them in?

¯_(ツ_/¯

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:16 PM

28. Alternate headline:

Stupid people finally figure out they're stupid.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:32 PM

29. When you vote for a con artist, don't be surprised when you get scammed.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:40 PM

30. Dumbasses.

As a gay man, I have no respect at all for other queers who vote R. Haven't spoken to a rich lesbian first cousin for years because of it. What were they thinking?!?!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:41 PM

31. Right. All 3 of them.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:47 PM

32. Duh. He's an asshole and a conjob

Those of us who recoiled in terror last year already knew the blackness of his phony soul. I have family members who supported the orange anus and voted for his hideousness last year. Now that things are getting as horrible as I knew they would be, the rest is silence...

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:06 PM

33. Its like they walked out of The Music Man

Saying to themselves, “Gosh, I wish I had a saxophone.”

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