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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:58 PM

Pence is with the Koch Bros. right now in Manhattan plotting strategy for the $400 million from Koch

Bros. for the 2018 election cycle

Mike Pence Will Help the Koch Brothers Plot Their 2018 Strategy
Philip Elliott
Sep 29, 2017

http://time.com/4962821/mike-pence-koch-brothers/

The two-day private retreat, on Oct. 12 and 13, is designed to help the small-government patrons pick their fights in House, Senate and state-level campaigns in next year’s midterms. A third of the Senate is in play, as is the entire House and 36 governors’ offices. The Koch-backed groups expect to spend as much as $400 million during the 2018 election cycle, either directly on these races or on the periphery to push policies that dovetail with the candidates.

“As a legislator, Governor and now Vice President, Pence truly understands how good policies can help all Americans improve their lives,” Koch executive James Davis said in an email announcing the Pence visit.

The strategy retreat will convene officials and patrons from the major Koch-linked groups: the activist-focused Americans for Prosperity; the Hispanic- and Latino-facing LIBRE Initiative; the military-aligned Concerned Veterans for America; and the young-voter targeting Generation Opportunity. An affiliated super PAC, Freedom Partners Action Fund, will also be on hand. Each group is expected to play a role in defending Republican majorities in Congress and pushing programs that boost the Kochs’ vision of a smaller government, less regulation and increased freedoms.

These groups are among the most effective in conservative politics. Democrats have consistently cried foul on their millions in spending because many of its donors are never disclosed. Under campaign finance laws, they do not have to be because their efforts, including television ads, seldom are explicitly about the election. Wiggle-phrases like “Call your Congressman” or “Tell your Senator” give them a loophole to say the messages aren’t about elections and thus not subject to donor disclosure. Cash given to the campaign-driven super PAC, however, is disclosed.SNIP

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Reply Pence is with the Koch Bros. right now in Manhattan plotting strategy for the $400 million from Koch (Original post)
diva77 Oct 12 OP
Initech Oct 12 #1
HipChick Oct 12 #2
Hortensis Oct 12 #8
Initech Oct 12 #9
Hortensis Oct 12 #11
Garrett78 Oct 12 #13
saidsimplesimon Oct 12 #3
Hortensis Oct 12 #10
HopeAgain Oct 12 #4
AJT Oct 12 #5
rurallib Oct 12 #6
Wellstone ruled Oct 12 #7
lpbk2713 Oct 12 #12
Initech Oct 12 #14
njhoneybadger Oct 12 #15
Garrett78 Oct 12 #16
njhoneybadger Oct 12 #17
CentralMass Oct 12 #18
diva77 Oct 13 #19
KelleyKramer Oct 13 #20

Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:00 PM

1. Let the Kochs waste their money.

Hopefully they won't see a return on this investment.

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:05 PM

2. So..is it going to be Koch V Mercers?

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Response to HipChick (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:05 PM

8. No. It's Kochs, Mercers, etc., + the religious right versus us.

Later they'd sort the rest out over a bit of time, but not too long. I.e., who gets to run the nation and who gets stood against a wall. Personally, my money'd be on the Christian reconstructionists. All other factions overlap with them -- as personified by Pence.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:10 PM

9. I think I've got their evil plan figured out.

Step 1: Purchase underground bunkers.
Step 2: Blow up rest of world.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!

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Response to Initech (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:18 PM

11. Yes, I've also noticed that they're not exactly the wisest around,

small, foolish minds, but just chock full of a viciously ruthless but hugely funded determination that puts the orange buffoon to shame on all fronts.

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Response to Initech (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:30 PM

13. Promote and exploit bigotry...

...and then people will vote in favor of those who wish to destroy the social safety net and regulatory agencies. So, the Kochs and the like simply have to determine where and how best to engage in dog whistling campaigns.

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:13 PM

3. Quelle surprise!

This family has a reputation for a brother who loves acquiring "fake" courtier wines. They are rich, libertarian, Ayn Rand accolades.

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:12 PM

10. This was implicit in Trump's reluctant choice of Pence. Remember how he

made the decision to go with the Kochs' choice at the last moment, influenced by those around him who'd arranged the deal? Talk of Jr. flying to the midwest? Rump babbled it to the world and then tried to back out in that same 24 hours before the formal announcement, but his kids and others were close around all night, persuading him he couldn't.

Then this guy who knew virtually no candidates himself was sworn in and filled his cabinet with Koch people pushed by the same influences.

If we had our own Designated Survivor event right now, almost everyone in line of succession would be a Koch ally, with, of course, Pence #1, the soul of self effacing humility and duty, all ready to go if we don't take him down with Trump.

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:13 PM

4. America for sale to the highest bidder.

THIS is why we have no power.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:17 PM

5. Apparently only the highest rightwing bidder.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:46 PM

6. truer words were never spoken

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:02 PM

7. If one thinks the Koch Brothers are

not working with the Mercer's,these folks are in this for their personal gains.

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:24 PM

12. Screw every one of those criminals.




Is that how much it costs to steal an election?

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:42 PM

14. I'm betting when Mueller swings the hammer, the Kochs and the Mercers are going down.

I'd be willing to bet good money they helped aide Putin in the theft of this election.

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:51 PM

15. tRump's cabinet pics and policies are right out of the Birchers hand book

I believe the two Kochsuckers were more involved in the election than we know.

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Response to njhoneybadger (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:36 PM

16. But Trump's incompetence and madness gets in the way.

Pence could more easily do their bidding. However, getting rid of Trump will splinter the base.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:30 PM

17. I agree, at this point tRump is a liability

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:15 PM

18. You would think that the Koch brothers would have gotten to a point in their lives where fucking

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over under classes and the environment wasn't their driving force in life. What a couple of miserable pricks.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:11 AM

19. If only there were a psychologist to advise as to how to shame them into becoming good guys.



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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 04:54 AM

20. Is Putin there too?


Just asking

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