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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:01 PM

The attempted terror attack right here in the US we never heard about.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/airport-bomb-north-carolina-suspect-war-us-soil-michael-christopher-estes-asheville-regional-airport-a7996306.html

Man suspected of planting airport bomb 'wanted to start a war on US soil

Michael Christopher Estes was arrested after an unexploded device was found at Asheville Regional Airport on Friday morning. The FBI’s criminal complaint states that Mr Estes admitted planting the bomb, which tests revealed contained Ammonium Nitrate, an explosive often used in terrorist attacks. Sterno, a form of jellied alcohol, was used as the fuel source. Mr Estes used a rigged an alarm clock, set for 6am, to strike matches that would have set it alight, the complaint states.


Other links:

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/11/a-thwarted-airport-bombing-receives-little-national-press-and-some-activists-cry-foul/

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/11/terrorist-donald-trump-airport-bomber-estes-asheville/

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/10/10/us/ap-us-north-carolina-airport-explosive-the-latest.html

And we haven't heard a word about this attempted terrorist attack. The suspect (who has confessed to setting the device) says he 'wanted to start a war'. But he is a right-wing white guy. White guys, by definition, aren't terrorists. The are 'lone wolves' or 'white nationalists' or 'extremists' but never terrorists. In order to be considered a terrorists you have to be Muslim. Don't you suppose this would have been all over the news of it had been a non-white? But we can't have white guys being called terrorists, now can we?

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Reply The attempted terror attack right here in the US we never heard about. (Original post)
Stonepounder Oct 12 OP
niyad Oct 12 #1
jberryhill Oct 12 #3
HopeAgain Oct 12 #2
left-of-center2012 Oct 12 #4
cwydro Oct 12 #19
Bucky Oct 12 #20
malaise Oct 12 #5
barbtries Oct 12 #7
malaise Oct 12 #8
barbtries Oct 12 #6
red dog 1 Oct 12 #9
LiberalLovinLug Oct 12 #14
sarisataka Oct 12 #15
red dog 1 Oct 12 #17
LiberalLovinLug Oct 12 #18
7962 Oct 12 #10
NBachers Oct 12 #11
IronLionZion Oct 12 #12
sarisataka Oct 12 #16
NBachers Oct 13 #24
JoeStuckInOH Oct 12 #13
peggysue2 Oct 12 #21
QED Oct 12 #22
SeattlePop Oct 12 #23

Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:02 PM

1. isn't ammonium nitrate one of the ingredients in mcveigh's ied?

oh, I keep forgetting. homegrown white guy!

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:06 PM

3. ANFO - ammonium nitrate / fuel oil - is by no means a "signature" explosive


It is the simplest improvised explosive to make and deal with, and its components are readily available.

While there is some monitoring of "unusual" purchases of ammonium nitrate, and some recordkeeping requirements, there's no problem diverting a lot of it from its ordinary agricultural use as a fertilizer.

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:03 PM

2. There are no white terrorists...

they are just "demented" individuals.

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:14 PM

4. "we never heard about"

It was on one of the networks national evening news.
I heard it.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:20 PM

19. I did too.

Also heard it on radio.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:36 PM

20. I think that's code for "not obsessed over by Fox News talking heads, so quickly forgotten"

you can see why a short hand was needed

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:15 PM

5. I posted a link about it

It did receive coverage but very very little

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:48 PM

7. i missed your post

i wish we could still favorite people on DU so we don't miss their posts.

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:42 PM

6. he's not even charged with terrorism

i guess we'd have to start hating all white people.

whistling past the graveyard. i hate republicans and i hate donald trump

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:41 PM

9. He's not being charged with terrorism?

If true, why not?

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Response to red dog 1 (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:58 PM

14. Isn't the definition of terrorism

"to cause terror"?

Which would have happened if that device had gotten off.

Oh yeah, he was white so he was just expressing himself.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:04 PM

15. No

This is the definition-
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.


It seems to me this meets the definition as he stated he wants to start a war on US soil

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:09 PM

17. + 1

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:17 PM

18. Depends which dictionary you look at

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/terrorism

:the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

Anyways, I'm not meaning to argue against but to agree. If that was not clear.

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:45 PM

10. I'll be sending this link straight to Facebook! Can't wait to see the responses.

I imagine it will be crickets

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:53 PM

11. You forgot, "He just snapped."

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:53 PM

12. Some DUer will come by and say he didn't have a political agenda

or some excuse for why we must remain in perpetual denial about white terrorism.

Some gun nut will sarcastically say ban farming and Wal-Mart.

But not a peep from our mainstream media or politicians about this. Wouldn't want to scare people into believe the monsters who want to kill us might look like anyone and live anywhere. That would be terrifying.

Maybe we can have Kellyanne Conway tell us about some imaginary massacres.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:07 PM

16. Starting a war

on US soil is his stated motive. That is political.

Terrorism.

Therefore he is a terrorist.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:46 AM

24. Seems Charlie Manson had similar motives.

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:55 PM

13. How big was it? The guy sounds like a dumbass. nt

 

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:54 PM

21. OMG!

My eldest son picked up a group of hikers from the Asheville Airport Thursday night, transported the team to a local hotel and hit the trail on Friday morning. Small world. Way too small.

This Estes character 'wanted to start a war on US soil?' Which begs the question: why choose a small airport like Asheville? Probably thought it would be easier to escape notice and/or police surveillance.

Good one on the Asheville Airport authorities who caught this sucker on camera and averted what could have easily been a bloody catastrophe.

As for why the silence? Think that's been adequately answered above: Estes didn't fit the stereotype for blaring, condemning headlines. Wrong color, wrong religion. Unless there's something else afoot--the FBI keeping a close eye on these White Nationalists, wanting to make sure that Estes was a lone wolf.

Scary.

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:56 PM

22. Disturbed or terrorist?

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Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:59 PM

23. Media Silence

 

Of course.

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