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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:45 AM

This miiiiiiiiiiight be a problem for the GOP.



Trump's approval rating among voters under 35 years old is down to just 17% (!) via new Quinnipiac poll just released.


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Young people? Gone.
Latinos? Gone.
African-Americans? Gone.
LGBT? Gone.

The national-security voters are getting anxious as well I guess.

And the tax-cut constituency is getting angry at McConnell for not delivering those tax-cuts.



But don't worry, GOP. You will always have "fine people" like Bannon and christian extremists like Ted Cruz as your voters. No way they will turn on you.

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Reply This miiiiiiiiiiight be a problem for the GOP. (Original post)
DetlefK Oct 12 OP
Proud liberal 80 Oct 12 #1
eShirl Oct 12 #6
sarge43 Oct 12 #13
xxqqqzme Oct 13 #33
treestar Oct 12 #19
Adrahil Oct 12 #2
luvtheGWN Oct 12 #9
Adrahil Oct 12 #10
ProudLib72 Oct 12 #29
safeinOhio Oct 12 #3
lunatica Oct 12 #4
Azathoth Oct 12 #5
nycbos Oct 12 #20
Hortensis Oct 12 #7
pamela Oct 12 #8
Different Drummer Oct 12 #28
Johonny Oct 12 #11
lunasun Oct 12 #26
mcar Oct 12 #12
Initech Oct 12 #14
lark Oct 12 #15
Beartracks Oct 12 #16
TeamPooka Oct 12 #17
Irish_Dem Oct 12 #30
Garrett78 Oct 12 #31
mountain grammy Oct 12 #18
BannonsLiver Oct 12 #21
toddwv Oct 12 #22
sellitman Oct 12 #23
JCMach1 Oct 12 #24
DemocraticSocialist8 Oct 12 #25
Honeycombe8 Oct 13 #37
DemocraticSocialist8 Sunday #42
Honeycombe8 Sunday #43
DemocraticSocialist8 Sunday #44
Vogon_Glory Oct 12 #27
Ferrets are Cool Oct 12 #32
quakerboy Oct 13 #34
lancelyons Oct 13 #35
Honeycombe8 Oct 13 #36
pansypoo53219 Oct 13 #38
Nitram Oct 13 #39
L. Coyote Oct 13 #40
Maraya1969 Oct 13 #41

Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:46 AM

1. Unfortunately

Those ďfine peopleĒ always show up to vote while the others donít.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:37 PM

6. maybe they show up and aren't allowed.

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Response to eShirl (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:32 PM

13. Maybe working impossible hours, two jobs, polling place miles aways,

public transport non-existent, docked if they leave work, impossible id restrictions, for starters.

Election Day should be a federal holiday. Denying anyone paid time to vote should be illegal. Primary Day should a state holiday, for starters.

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:02 AM

33. It is why you vote by mail

n/t

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:14 PM

19. They were described as "voters"

so perhaps Quinnipiac limited to those who at least voted?

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:52 AM

2. It would be a problem if they actually voted in sufficient numbers...

Oh look! A new episode of the Kardashians!

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:11 PM

9. This is only anecdotal, but

I have a grand-niece in 3rd year university in Michigan who voted for the first time last November. She grew up in a strong Republican household and did vote for Dolt45. She is so appalled and disgusted by the way "her President" is behaving, and vows never, EVER to vote GOP again. She's now working on her parents.

So there's that......

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Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:22 PM

10. I sure hope that's indicative of a trend...

I am sick at heart for my country.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:28 PM

29. trumptard lament



O where have you been, Lord Randal, my son ?
O where have you been, my bonny young man ?
Iíve been with my sweetheart, mother make my bed soon
For Iím sick to the heart and I fain would lie down.

And what did she give you, Lord Randal, my son ?
And what did she give you, my bonny young man ?
Eels boiled in brew, mother make my bed soon
For Iím sick to the heart and I fain would lie down.

O I fear you are poisoned, Lord Randal, my son,
O I fear you are poisoned, my bonny young man.
O yes, I am poisoned, mother make my bed soon
For Iím sick to the heart and I fain would lie down.

What will you leave your brother, Lord Randal, my son ?
What will you leave your brother, my bonny young man ?
My horse and the saddle, mother make my bed soon
For Iím sick to the heart and I fain would lie down.

What will you leave your sister, Lord Randal, my son ?
What will you leave your sister, my bonny young man ?
My gold box and rings, mother make my bed soon
For Iím sick to the heart and I fain would lie down.

What will you leave your true love, Lord Randal, my son ?
What will you leave your true love, my bonny young man ?
The tow and the halter to hang on yon tree,
And let her hang there for the poisoning of me.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:33 PM

3. It's getting near time

To get first time voters to register for mid-term elections.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:37 PM

4. Don't forget to include -- Baby boomers? Dying off.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:37 PM

5. Under-35's don't vote in midterms

And they can be easily dissuaded from voting in presidentials with a short course of "they're both the same" campaigning from the Jill Stein left. Under-35's are really only important when the candidate is seen as hip and charismatic and relevant, like Obama was, and like sax-playing Bill was in '92.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:21 PM

20. +1

As someone who is in this demographic I hear this all the time. You can't reason with the young people of the country. I wish people would stop making excuse for us.



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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:39 PM

7. He just acted to destroy the ACA, so there goes another constituency:

Those Repubs who understand it was both extremely viable and valuable--to them.

And this will include a fair number of those under-35s who are not just long past adolescence but have to provide healthcare for their own children.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:51 PM

8. It's still 90+% with inbred goobers. N/T

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Response to pamela (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:22 PM

28. Unfortunately, this is correct. n/t

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:24 PM

11. I imagine those 17% are some pretty scary people

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Response to Johonny (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:54 PM

26. Hard core deplorables

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:25 PM

12. Now they need to vote

In every election.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:34 PM

14. Like that has stopped them!

In some states (*COUGH* Alabama), the GOP could run Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson, and the Son of Sam, and they would still win, because, reasons.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:35 PM

15. KKK & Nazis love them.

They won't change either, they'll stick with racist Repugs.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:42 PM

16. Bugs me that a lot of that "lost support" is...

... people who still AGREE with Trump's ideas and attitudes, but are simply expressing frustration at his incompetence.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:59 PM

17. This is why the GOP has a strong voter suppression effort going. They don't want everyone who can

vote to actually vote.
That would be bad for them.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:29 PM

30. Plus a voting system which is not secure. So much for living in a "democracy."

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:37 PM

31. Paul Weyrich said so publicly decades ago.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:13 PM

18. Don't care what else is said here

This is a sign of hope and I'll take what I can get.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:46 PM

21. Still getting white men and some women, though.

When he starts getting really underwater with that demo he is finished. Not ready to hold my breath quite yet.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:15 PM

22. This just means that they will step up their voter suppression efforts.

If our system was truly a level playing ground, the GOP wouldn't be in control of Congress and would've only won 1 presidential election out of the last 6.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:21 PM

23. They control the voting machines

Nothing else matters come election day.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:24 PM

24. Don't forget CHIP has not been funded either

This is going to get ugly

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:39 PM

25. The numbers are bad for Trump

In terms of the age bracket. People Under 35 will be 3 years older when times comes around to vote for 2020. 25 year olds will be 28 and starting families. 30 year olds will be 33, 35 year olds will be 38 and pushing 40. Millennials will have a firmer grasp of the electorate in 2020. The older voters that Trump depended on in 2016 will even be fewer in number in 2020 and we all know the only reason he won in 2016 is because of massive, historic voter suppression against non-White voters. That's not a trick he can pull again in 2020 and the GOP may even be too shamed of Trump to pull another CrossCheck scam. But I think the GOP is run by sellouts and treasonous SOBs at this point anyway...so we can't put anything past them.

I said on Twitter that Trump's base is prepared to sacrifice democracy to maintain their power and control in this country and democracy just may have to be destroyed for them to do that. The long-term ramifications that might have could severely damage this country beyond repair IMHO.

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Response to DemocraticSocialist8 (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:39 AM

37. Trump "won" because of Russia. That's so clear to me. Not voter suppression.

Voter suppression will be key in 2020, though. They've been working on it already.

I believe the age group that voted most for Trump is middle aged. They will still be around in 3 years, and they are reliable voters.

The 60+ crowd is most reliable voting group.
Then it's the 45-59 age group.
Then it's the 30-44 age group. Third largest voter turnout.

And there are a lot of middle aged and older people. Baby boomers. They are very reliable voters.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #37)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 06:29 PM

42. This is incorrect. Turn off the MSM for a second

The biggest conspiracy of the 2016 election wasn't Russia, it was CrossCheck. Look up investigative reporter Greg Palast and the work he's done on it. Joy Reid has even had him on a couple times to talk about it. The rest of the media is ignoring it though because that's the REAL reason Trump won, but they're propping up the Russia narrative because they can blame Trump's ascendency on a foreign adversary and not point the finger at fellow Americans who may have blatantly broken the law and violated the Constitutional voting rights of millions of Americans in over 20 states. It's easier to just blame Russia.

I'm not saying Russia didn't meddle in the election, I believe they did. To what extent though is still under investigation, but even the Feds have said they have no evidence that anything Russia did actually flipped votes. If that's the evidence you're waiting for...it's not going to come. Either they're going to cover that angle up to protect the integrity of U.S. elections in the eyes of the public and not show how ancient and anachronistic our voting system is...or it didn't actually happen.

The REAL conspiracy is the conspiracy that no one is talking about because it doesn't implicate a foreign power, but Republicans in office right now at the State level.

Millions of mostly non-White voters who vote majority Democrat (so Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics) were erroneously and intentionally labeled "double voters" because their last names "matched" voters with the same last name in other States. So their votes were not counted in the official tally. Kris Kobach was the architect of this system and Greg Palast was the first one to point him out. Now Kobach sits at the head of Trump's "voter commission." The cover story is that they're trying to prove that Trump actually won the popular vote. Trust me, that's a bullshit cover story. They KNOW Trump didn't win the popular vote. The voter commission is really about voter suppression.

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Response to DemocraticSocialist8 (Reply #42)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 07:05 PM

43. It was Russia. I believe they hacked a few districts in just a few key states that were close.

That was enough to do it. I believe that because the results in those states were against almost all the polls in the few days leading up to the election, as well as not jiving with exit polls.

It's historical for 12 of 13 election polls to be wrong. Never happened before. I don't think it did happen.

I didn't get that from the MSM. I have a brain of my own. I suspected this on election night...because it didn't make sense and didn't jive with almost all the data. Something was wrong.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #43)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 08:42 PM

44. We'll agree to disagree on HOW it happened, but we agree that something definitely did

happen. I personally don't think Trump is a legitimate President and I think members of the GOP were aware of an agenda to force him into office. I think they saw back-to-back Dem Presidents as their death knell because they'd HAVE to put a Democratic nominee on the Supreme Court. They didn't want to listen to a black man THEN a woman. Plus I think they were hellbent on destroying Obama's legacy

This is the closest we've come to a coup because our voting process is weak and if our voting process is weak, then American democracy is weak. Much weaker than we thought.

The only good news for us is that Trump is such an incredible disaster that if he falls, he just might take the GOP with him. I doubt it, but I don't think this country will be the same post-Trump. I think there's a deep cultural fissure that won't be healed this generation. I think some of us who live through this will despise the right-wing for many years to come. It's gone beyond simple political disagreements at this point.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:08 PM

27. They'll still have James O'Keefe and David Daleiden n/t

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:13 PM

32. Even if they DID vote, by the time they GET to vote, he will have destroyed

America.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:20 AM

34. Naw

They will just find ways to purge younger folk from the voting rolls.

And make sure the vote totals are not able to be recounted.

And whatever else they have to to do make it work.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:11 AM

35. Yeah but

I agree..

Young people? Gone.
Latinos? Gone.
African-Americans? Gone.
LGBT? Gone.

but

Russian meddling. Check
Voter supression. Check
Gerry Mandering. Check
Can makeup their own facts. Check

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:33 AM

36. That's the age group with the lowest turnout, though. 60+ has biggest turnout.

60+ has biggest turnout.
45-59 is next.
30-44 is third.
18-29 is last, having the lowest turnout.

If you want to win elections, gotta reach the older crowd. There's a lot of baby boomers, and they vote with a high turnout, come rain or shine.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:28 AM

38. that is a lot of baby assholes.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 08:30 AM

39. I hope they turn out for the vote.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:41 AM

40. Pussy people, gone. The only thing worse than a pussy grabber

is a pussy grabber as a boss. The focus on sexual harrassment right now is more bad news for the epitome of pussy grabber pride, Trump.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:56 AM

41. Someone please explain why this article is full of crap. "Trump on track to win reelection"

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