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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:26 AM

The media making Weinstein a Clinton scandal is pretty definitive proof that if it wasnt the emails

...it would have been something else.

HRC has endured more vitriolic misogyny on a slow Tuesday than most of us in our lives.

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Reply The media making Weinstein a Clinton scandal is pretty definitive proof that if it wasnt the emails (Original post)
tenderfoot Oct 12 OP
samnsara Oct 12 #1
Kingofalldems Oct 12 #2
Not Ruth Oct 12 #20
JI7 Oct 12 #3
malaise Oct 12 #9
emulatorloo Oct 12 #4
Paladin Oct 12 #6
JI7 Oct 12 #10
bobbieinok Oct 12 #5
DK504 Oct 12 #15
maddiemom Oct 12 #27
TheMastersNemesis Oct 12 #51
Tommy_Carcetti Oct 12 #7
meadowlark5 Oct 12 #8
mythology Oct 12 #11
robbob Oct 12 #45
Irish_Dem Oct 12 #12
UCmeNdc Oct 12 #13
JI7 Oct 12 #14
agingdem Oct 12 #17
uponit7771 Oct 12 #18
RobinA Oct 12 #41
Initech Oct 12 #16
Not Ruth Oct 12 #22
Initech Oct 12 #23
Not Ruth Oct 12 #31
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 12 #53
tenderfoot Oct 12 #54
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 12 #55
maddiemom Oct 12 #33
oberliner Oct 12 #19
IronLionZion Oct 12 #21
oberliner Oct 12 #36
IronLionZion Oct 12 #47
oberliner Oct 12 #50
rainin Oct 12 #24
maddiemom Oct 12 #25
PatSeg Oct 12 #26
Post removed Oct 12 #28
uponit7771 Oct 12 #32
Post removed Oct 12 #34
JHan Oct 12 #35
Post removed Oct 12 #38
JHan Oct 12 #43
DownriverDem Oct 12 #29
tblue37 Oct 12 #30
Lithos Oct 12 #37
HipChick Oct 12 #39
-Steph- Oct 12 #40
L. Coyote Oct 12 #42
JHan Oct 12 #44
dlk Oct 12 #46
loyalsister Oct 12 #48
Progressive dog Oct 12 #49
WinkyDink Oct 12 #52
RainCaster Oct 12 #56

Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:34 AM

1. makes me support her even more.....

.....if its not one male its another.....

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:36 AM

2. His own wife didn't know--yet Hillary is at fault.

Unbelievable.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:36 AM

3. They are the reason the russian propaganda and other bs has influence

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:46 AM

9. The Russians got it from them

believe me

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:40 AM

4. This pisses me off so badly. Some DU'ers feeding at the RW propaganda trough too.

Next we'll hear Hillary and Obama forced Weinstein to abuse those women.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:42 AM

6. Why all those individuals haven't been banned is a mystery to me. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:47 AM

10. Especially since most are right wing trolls

Only attack democrats and only defend republicans

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:42 AM

5. Agreed.

Would attack any democrat . No democrat since FDR has been considered a legitimate president. FDR was considered a traitor to his class. JFK was assassinated. And horror of horrors, LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act; the nerve of someone, a prsident no less, thinking 'those people' had any rights!!

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:02 AM

15. And FDR was nearly thrown out via a coup.

So these "titans of industry" care only about themselves.

Even after the Nixon debacle we still had a chance, then Regan, he set the hatred meter up with his racial garbage and never turned it down. It was always an issue with him, every one but him and his pals were lessers. He made the country believe we were less than and he strolled in and began ripping everything apart.

The media has never done a real expose on the damage he did to the country, I doubt they ever will.

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Response to DK504 (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:02 PM

27. Sad and outrageous that the Republicans tried to build Reagan into an icon.

It became nauseating. The last good Republican president was Eisenhower, but even Nixon, obsessed with his legacy, did more good and less harm than St. Ronnie in terms of policy.

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:51 PM

51. You Forgot Bobby Was Assassinated. That Story Has Never Been Correctly Told.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:43 AM

7. I'm sure in an alternate universe somewhere....

.....they'd be demanding a Congressional investigation regarding President Clinton, demanding with feigned outrage "What did she know and when did she know it?"

Because some realities change, and others don't.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:44 AM

8. Good grief! She isn't even anything in congress

Nothing like aiding and abetting Trump and his deplorables. SHE'S NOT PRESIDENT! She's not a representative, she's not a senator. She is a private citizen now. So what the hell difference does it make if a presidential candidate who lost their election once took donations from a sexual predator? It has no bearing on us as a whole. If she were president, then go ahead and try to make hay out of it. But she's not.

Seems there is plenty of news they could "report" on instead of reaching with Hillary and Weinstein. It's not like the deplorable in chief isn't constantly providing them with shit to ruminate on every minute.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:52 AM

11. The email issue is what stuck because it fed on her image

She was already viewed as edging on the line after things like white water. Whether that was deserved or not is irrelevant. But things like Benghazi didn't. I don't think the Weinstein stuff would stick to Hillary either.

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Response to mythology (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:22 PM

45. The fact that Whitewater,

A failed real estate deal in which the Clintons LOST money, ever became a "scandal" in the first place is a testimony to just how biased the American media really is. Not to mention the corruption of the Repigs, who's first appointed investigator into Whitewater found the Clintons guilty of no wrongdoing, which necessitated the appointment of Ken Starr, who proceeded to take the proceedings into all kinds of bizarre and irrelevant directions searching for some mud that would stick to Bill Clinton.

Many years and much money later he came up with...a blow job.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:52 AM

12. It was never about the emails. nt

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:53 AM

13. The media should be making Weinstein a Trump scandal

Trump did the exact same thing as Weinstein.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:01 AM

14. But trump did give some money to hillarys senate campaign so maybe the media will demand Hillary

Apologize for and be held responsible for trumps pussy grabbing .

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:16 AM

17. It is a false equivalency story

and it's a non-story...Harvey Weinstein is a sexual predator...how shocking!...sarcasm intended. When Rachel wastes her precious on-air time on this dreck instead of methodically laying out a case for impeaching the Pussy-Grabber-In-Chief I get pissed and click her off. BTW Hillary is a big girl...she doesn't need us defending her..she needs us to prove her right!!

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Response to agingdem (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:22 AM

18. +1

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Response to agingdem (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:23 PM

41. +2

Talk about a distraction. Movie mogul is a lech, film at 11.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:03 AM

16. It's not about Hillary.

It's about a party that's become so fucking drunk with power that they'll do anything to silence the opposition. Shit, they are that batshit crazy that they'd revoke the first, fourth, and fifth amendments if they could.

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Response to Initech (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:31 AM

22. It is about Hollywood, look at Matt and Ben

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Response to Not Ruth (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:35 AM

23. The republicans want to take down Hollywood.

Because, liberal derangement syndrome. Looks like they might get their wish.

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Response to Initech (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:04 PM

31. Does Samantha Bee want to take down Hollywood?

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Response to Initech (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:15 PM

53. I'm afraid you might be right. Unfortunately, Hollywood handed the Rethugs the rope to hang em with.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #53)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:21 PM

54. Are you suggesting there are no conservatives in the entertainment business?

If so, explain Steve Bannon.

Explain 'The Apprentice'.

Explain 'Keeping Up With The Kardashians'.

Explain Clint Eastwood.

Explain 'Duck Dynasty'.

etc...

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #54)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:24 PM

55. No, not suggesting that at all... please don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.

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Response to Initech (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:06 PM

33. McConnell is a snake, and Ryan an ineffectual wimp,

but they still managed to do much harm. I still love to see tRump and Mitch at odds.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:28 AM

19. It should be a humanity scandal

And a climate should be created where more people feel comfortable enough to tell their own stories about their own Harvey Weinsteins.

People who engage in this behavior need to face consequences. Too many have gotten away with it for too long.

Everyone should be rallying together in the fight to end, or at least curb, the continuing exploitation of young vulnerable women (and men).

Encouraging to see so many people doing that.

We ought to do what we can to help give folks the courage to come forward and tell their own stories so that steps can be taken, where appropriate, to bring the criminals to account and make others think twice about engaging in such reprehensible behavior.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:31 AM

21. I'm still not sure what this story has to do with Hillary

All sorts of people donate money to politicians. We certainly didn't elect Weinstein for president, or to any office.

Should we add a questionnaire to all campaign donations: "Have you ever been a creep?"

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:19 PM

36. Harvey Weinstein is one of the Democratic Party's most prolific donors

Thus, many Democrats, including HRC, have condemned him in the strongest possible terms and are donating money to causes that fight for women

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Response to oberliner (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:24 PM

47. I got that. I just don't see how it's scandalous for Hillary to have accepted donations

She wasn't going around grabbing men's dicks and bragging about getting away with it for being rich and famous. She's no Donald Trump. And she says she didn't know and I believe her.

And we can't screen everyone who donates to political parties. Although if we did, we might ruin the GOP fundraising machine once and for all.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #47)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:46 PM

50. I don't find that to be scandalous

Are there non-RW people who do?

I think HRC has handled it exactly right. She gave a strong statement condemning him and pledged to donate whatever money her campaign received from him to women's charities.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:45 AM

24. I thought we knew it wasn't the emails

when the entire trump cabal was discovered to be conducting government business on private email servers. They suddenly stopped caring as soon as he was sworn in.

Has anyone heard it mentioned?

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:45 AM

25. YES!

The guts this woman has showed over the years puts other "politicians" to shame. Nitpicking and "politics as usual" aside, she would have been a strong leader, like her or not.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:54 AM

26. That's the way it has been for Hillary

for decades. Few people could endure the endless attacks that she has.

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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:05 PM

32. It's 100% false that it was to avoid FOI

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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:13 PM

35. No that's your disgusting spin.

It was not to avoid FOI. Just stop. This has been debunked a zillion times.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:03 PM

29. Won't fly

The majority of the country will not buy it.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:03 PM

30. K&R. This is an absolute truth. nt

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:20 PM

37. The media has long been apologists for people like Trump, Ailes and Weinstein

Makes me think it's a good old boy's club who protect their own.

L-

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:21 PM

39. The media has made Hillary more accountable than Trump for his own sexual assault scandals..

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:23 PM

40. Republicans will try whatever tactics they can to deflect attention away from the shit-show that

is their party. They're constantly flinging crap against the wall to see what sticks. This is just their latest pile. They know there isn't anything that unites their base quicker than their obsessive hatred for Clinton and Obama. Any chance they get to feed that hatred and turn attention away from their own wrongdoings , they're going to run with it, and run with it.. and run with it some more.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:31 PM

42. Democrats are responsible for the actions of donors, while Republicans take money from Russia?

Not to mention, blame the only women in the room for the bad behavior by the worst man in the room!





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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #42)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:42 PM

44. It's crazy.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:23 PM

46. The Blame Women First Propaganda Machine is Very Real

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:25 PM

48. Seems like the hysterical defense is whats is keeping this going

The mention of Clinton is a distraction from the pattern of harrassment by men with power. Trump, Cosby, and Weinstein are cut from the same cloth. But, they're just three high profile guys who got caught as it continues unchallenged in ordinary life.

Dismissing what has been exposed as a political attack is a symptom that only benefits the culture that objectifies women to continue. "Who cares about those women, it's all about Hillary" benefits the accused. We shouldn't fall for it.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:29 PM

49. The Republican & now Russian-Trump

political machines have been after HRC, starting with Whitewater and even trying to turn the suicide of Vince Foster into a murder to shut him up.
There is a multi-million dollar industry built around destroying Hillary. Now they are working to prevent her from running again.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:53 PM

52. Yep. And any "Clinton Caught In Sex Scandal!" sells. ALL Democrats need to say: "This is not a

political issue. Mr. Weinstein is not a politician. Taking money from Russia and Putin IS a political issue."

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:59 PM

56. It's all about Ben Gozzy

or whoever that guy is that help Hillary get an email account that wasn't hacked.

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