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Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:12 PM

I just don't get it.!

How the fuck does kneeling by the NFL players during the National Anthem at a NFL game symbolize disrespect for soldiers serving our country...

Jesus Christ you stupid fucks who believe this..Millions of young warriors have given their lives to the concept of Freedom of Speech.. You Dumb Stupid Fucks!

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Reply I just don't get it.! (Original post)
busterbrown Oct 2017 OP
Skittles Oct 2017 #1
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #16
unblock Oct 2017 #2
Stuart G Oct 2017 #3
Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #10
LeftishBrit Oct 2017 #20
RKP5637 Oct 2017 #4
LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #5
Crash2Parties Oct 2017 #12
spanone Oct 2017 #6
Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #7
KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #14
Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #23
Initech Oct 2017 #8
Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #9
procon Oct 2017 #11
Xipe Totec Oct 2017 #13
certainot Oct 2017 #15
Stellar Oct 2017 #17
C Moon Oct 2017 #18
AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #19
PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #21
syringis Oct 2017 #22
Ferrets are Cool Oct 2017 #24
lunatica Oct 2017 #25
doc03 Oct 2017 #26
JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #27
madokie Oct 2017 #28

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:13 PM

1. it doesn't

it is just easier for racist repuke fucks to complain about the flag than it is for them to acknowledge white privilege

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:55 PM

16. Yeah. It's a diversion from Puerto Rico, Russia, Conservative Court Stacking, Paving the Earth, ....

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:13 PM

2. White supremacist reframing

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:14 PM

3. Yep..you are correct, "Freedom of Speech" Ammendment I..exact wording below...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

take a close look...just one sentence says it all. Trump don't know what it means. Hasn't got a clue. The courts have already ruled in favor of.."right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."...

Kneeling quietly while a song is played..........is to "peaceably to assemble, and petition the Government for a redress of grievances"...yes it is peaceful and hurts no one. again........................................

The courts have already ruled in favor of the peaceful protestors ...It ain't new. Been done before..and will be done again.

Oh...you don't get it?
A. Women did it to get the right to vote
B. Workers did it to get the right to form unions.
C. During the civil rights fight, millions did it to insure rights in the south for Afro-Americans
D. During the Viet Nam War, millions marched against the war, peacefully
E. Many more examples...look it up..fellow DU ers..you name as many as you like.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:53 PM

10. You said that very well

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 01:15 AM

20. Exactly!

Sometimes Republicans sound as if the ONLY amendment that they value/know about is the Second Amendment, interpreted in its most extreme form.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:14 PM

4. Well said! n/t

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:16 PM

5. Just realize that nothing makes sense anymore...

The administration is using "gaslighting" as their deliberate tool of choice to achieve their end.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:31 PM

12. The GOP has used a form of it since Bush Jr would accuse others of whatever he was most guilty

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:20 PM

6. the dictator-in-chief declares it so!!!!!

reality has no place.

so many lies there's no disputing all of them

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:34 PM

7. What I find ironic is how conservative ideas run parallel with military careers

In other words, as we spend tax payer money on our soldiers, and support retired officers through pensions, they return the favor by sucking the oxygen from our freedom of expression.

It's harsh, I know, but I know many good people who have spent their life, from cradle to grave, working in the public sector, and specifically, in the heavily military departments. They are indoctrinated, not just by loyalty, but by paycheck. If they had liberal ideas, it could jeopardize their work status. Jesus, you know the Air Force will go so far as to interview your neighbors for information. Think about how stifling that is to develop independent, critical thinking skills.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:43 PM

14. You're right.

Many folks have lost their perspective of what the military is, and what it's for. Far too many never have had that perspective.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:12 AM

23. I get a surreal feeling everytime that I attend high school reunions.

I know these are good people. I grew up with them. But they sound like robots programmed for hate. Many became perfect vehicles for the Russian memes on Facebook.

This is why we have to remove the sacred cow perspective that the conservatives have established for the military. Right now, they are using soldiers as their emotive shields. It's wrong. We have a symbiotic relationship. Don't tread on our freedoms.

That's why perpetual war is frightening. The military can become self-sustainable if it gets a perpetual need to buy those weapons, and the more soldiers they need for their growing military, the more conservative-minded individual they can indoctrinate.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:39 PM

8. It's called "beating a dead horse".

We thought this stupid controversy died last year. But the republicans won't let it go. Because Fox News is waging this non existent culture war and has convinced republicans that they're the victims in this.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:49 PM

9. take a deep breath

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:01 PM

11. Because that's what the lying Trump says it should mean.

His zombified base will believe it and cheer enthusiastically at his next campaign rally, and that is the only thing that counts.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:43 PM

13. Silent Kneel

Navy chief petty officer selects kneel and observe a moment of silence in honor of the 14th anniversary of 9/11 during a Chief Petty Officer Pride Day event on Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, Hawaii, Sept. 10, 2015. U.S. Navy photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Gabrielle Joyner


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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:44 PM

15. just listen to your local rw talk radio blowhard, multiply by 1500, and you'll know

why

the biggest political mistake in history

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 12:05 AM

17. They act as though none of the participants had no members in the wars.

From what I've read, some of their family members were lynched in the south, still in uniforms when they got back. Smh.

But, it's not about the flag or the country, as Trump insist that it is.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 12:12 AM

18. Roosevelt had his "Fireside Chat" to help the morale of the country;

Trump focuses on a battle with NFL players to feed his own ego.
The difference between a great President who cared about his country, and a failure /traitor who cares only about himself.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 12:55 AM

19. Because they want an excuse to shut down discussion, and that's the only counter to remaining

race issues in this country. Fingers in the ears screaming LALALALALA, or go on the offensive at every single mention/symbol/issue that is raised.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 03:31 AM

21. The underlying issue is that our soldiers

ought to be respected no matter what.

I strongly disagree with that. First off, we've had a totally volunteer army for how long? Some 40 or more years. Which means that every single person in uniform has volunteered. So I will assume that they know EXACTLY what they are getting into.

I will NOT say "Thank you for your service" to anyone under the age of 60. They volunteered. Sort of like policemen, or firemen, or nurses, or cashiers at the grocery store.

It's appalling that the idea that every single person in this country ought to be treated with dignity and respect is somehow controversial.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 04:12 AM

22. The way it goes in Trump's world...



According to "the walking book of etiquette", kneeling is disrespectul but comparing the WH to a venezuelan jail...not so much...

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 04:28 PM

24. Racists can always justify their actions....this one is easy because it includes a symbol that can

be exploited.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 04:32 PM

25. It's fabricated. Trump popped it right out of his mouth fully grown.

He does know how to fight. But what he doesn't know outweighs that by about 16 tons.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:08 PM

26. Fox News told them it does nt

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:10 PM

27. Wasn't it the Military/DoD that paid the NFL to force players on the field for the Anthem?

 

Under the premise that both teams are sent onto the field to line up for the patriotic flag & national anthem activities because the Military and DOD started giving the NFL millions in 2009... Well, it doesn't take too big of a leap to see how someone could contort protesting an armed-forces-sponsored activity into disrespecting the armed forces.

Not that I necessarily support that conclusion... but it's not made up either. There's a handful of articles and evidence outlining the money paid to the NFL by the military to make the sport appear more patriotic in the post-9/11 landscape and how the game operations manual changed to say all players must be present for the anthem.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:13 PM

28. I'm one of those

who left my sanity on the battlefield

So Fuck the bunch of them.

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