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underpants

(182,736 posts)
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:17 PM Oct 2017

O. J. Is free

O.J. Simpson released after serving 9 years in Nevada prison

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20877682/oj-simpson-released-nevada-prison

LAS VEGAS -- Former football legend O.J. Simpson became a free man Sunday after serving nine years for a botched hotel room heist in Las Vegas that brought the conviction and prison time he avoided in the killings of his ex-wife and her friend after his 1995 acquittal in the "trial of the century" in Los Angeles.

Simpson was released at 12:08 a.m. PT from Lovelock Correctional Center in northern Nevada, state prisons spokeswoman Brooke Keast told The Associated Press. She said she did not know the driver who met Simpson upon his release and didn't know where Simpson was immediately headed in his first hours of freedom.

"I don't have any information on where he's going," said Keast, who watched as Simpson signed documents and was let go. Her department released video on social media of Simpson being told to "come on out" by a prison staffer, exiting through an open door. He could be seen responding "OK" as he left, wearing a ball cap, denim jacket, jeans and white tennis shoes.

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O. J. Is free (Original Post) underpants Oct 2017 OP
O. J. Is Actually Very Expensive. MineralMan Oct 2017 #1
Agree. cwydro Oct 2017 #4
Well, see, I think the media should deliberately lose interest. MineralMan Oct 2017 #6
Again, I agree. cwydro Oct 2017 #8
I totally agree pandr32 Oct 2017 #9
Especially in Key West OriginalGeek Oct 2017 #14
He will be on Fox every 20 minutes grantcart Oct 2017 #28
I saw on TV this morning that FL AG Pam Bondi will bar NCjack Oct 2017 #2
How can you stop an American citizen from living wherever they want? cwydro Oct 2017 #5
Parolees are often restricted in many ways. MineralMan Oct 2017 #7
I didn't know that at all. cwydro Oct 2017 #10
OJ was incarcerated in Nevada Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #15
If that's his state of residence, he would need CA to okay it. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #19
He was a resident of Florida... Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #26
IIRC he originally moved to Fla because Fla doesn't allow liens on pensions or primary residences. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2017 #33
You're right. My mistake. MineralMan Oct 2017 #22
Thank God...now OJ can get back to work finding the real killer. n/t Still In Wisconsin Oct 2017 #3
The one who was guilty of a crime in the OJ case rock Oct 2017 #11
I wouldn't go so far as to say they were 'criminally' responsible LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #12
The only person convicted of anything in that whole thing - Mark Fuhrman underpants Oct 2017 #13
It wasn't the prosecution that framed him lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #17
So the guy who caught the Hillside Stranglers was a racist and conspired VermontKevin Oct 2017 #21
Mark Furhman is and was a racist asshole lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #23
So he managed to frame OJ over the senior detective who caught the Hillside Stranglers? VermontKevin Oct 2017 #25
what does a previous case have to do with either Furhman or OJ? lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #29
Like I said...you have claimed that the guy who caught the Hillside Stranglers VermontKevin Oct 2017 #34
yup almost all cops are racist gopiscrap Oct 2017 #31
Disagree. tavernier Oct 2017 #18
Probably had to more to do with the Rampart scandal than love of OJ grantcart Oct 2017 #27
Sorry, but I'm gonna take the word of the guy who caught the Hillside Stranglers VermontKevin Oct 2017 #20
Framing OJ? oberliner Oct 2017 #32
As he should be, seeing as how he was never convicted of murder. dawg Oct 2017 #16
Tell Pam Bondy malaise Oct 2017 #24
What is OJ's position on Trump attacking the NFL football players for kneeling nkpolitics1212 Oct 2017 #30
Some guy about a mile from me (in Naples Fl) is offering up his condo to OJ. Hopefully it doesn't kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2017 #35
I think he was probably guilty. However, Furhman's behavior created a reasonable doubt pnwmom Oct 2017 #36
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
4. Agree.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:27 PM
Oct 2017

I think there will be an initial surge of publicity, but if he's smart he'll keep a low profile and the media will lose interest.

Of course, OJ is not known for being smart.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. Well, see, I think the media should deliberately lose interest.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:29 PM
Oct 2017

I'm not sure what the man, himself, wants, but that shouldn't matter. We should hear no more about O. J.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. Again, I agree.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

It'll be interesting to see if he seeks publicity. He used to love it.

I think the media will watch for awhile, but if he keeps his head down, they'll go away.

I mean, good lord, we've got the Orange Clown to watch, a disaster in Puerto Rico, and heck - I just HAVE to know which players have knelt today!

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
9. I totally agree
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:36 PM
Oct 2017

He is another one of those so-called "celebrity" psychopaths who thrive on attention. Give him shade instead.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
14. Especially in Key West
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:11 PM
Oct 2017

My wife and I celebrated our anniversary in July down in Key West and we stopped for breakfast at a cafe near our hotel. We literally laughed out loud when we saw a glass of oj was 8 dollars. The waitress seemed perplexed and said "but it's hand squeezed" which made us laugh even harder.

My wife and I are both native Floridians. We grew up with a hand crank juicer mounted to the kitchen wall and citrus trees out in the yard.

I guess we don't get out much but I never thought I'd see an 8 dollar glass of orange juice... at least not without vodka in it.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
2. I saw on TV this morning that FL AG Pam Bondi will bar
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:24 PM
Oct 2017

OJ from coming to Florida. She's the same person who took $25K from Trump for her political campaign and quickly declined to act against the Trump University betrump. Looks like the going price is $25K. Hey OJ -- if you want to golf in Florida, the price is $25K.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
7. Parolees are often restricted in many ways.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

Typically for a parolee to move from the state where he/she was incarcerated to another state requires permission from the destination state. Not everyone wants O. J. to move in next door, you see.

O. J. cannot leave the state of California without permission, as part of the conditions of his parole.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. I didn't know that at all.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:38 PM
Oct 2017

As I've posted before here; this is why I love DU. It's free education!

I've learned so much here. Truly. Someone sometime actually posted a way to tie your shoes so they would not come untied. Not the double tie thing we all know, but a different way. Don't remember who posted it, but I've used the trick ever since.

Lol, silly, I know...but I do learn things here.

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
26. He was a resident of Florida...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:46 PM
Oct 2017

But conditions of his parole prohibit him from leaving Nevada and changing his residence without getting permission first from the Nevada Division of Parole and Probation, and is required to submit a written report every month about his activities to officials on a form supplied by the parole and probation agency

Sounds like Nevada owns "Juice" for the next five years

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,831 posts)
33. IIRC he originally moved to Fla because Fla doesn't allow liens on pensions or primary residences.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:10 PM
Oct 2017

He was planning to live off his NFL pension and the Goldmans couldn't touch him.

rock

(13,218 posts)
11. The one who was guilty of a crime in the OJ case
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:41 PM
Oct 2017

Was the prosecution. After several failed attempts at framing OJ, it became impossible to know if OJ was guilty or not. Anyone who claims they know without evidence is no more convincing then any of the several thousand religions who make similar kinds of claims (without evidence)!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
12. I wouldn't go so far as to say they were 'criminally' responsible
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:58 PM
Oct 2017

But they made terrible mistakes in both how they presented the evidence, and what they used. Also bad luck and lack of research as they relied on a proven racist cop as a star witness. And another stupid cop that kept evidence overnight in his trunk. And other mistakes.

Also DNA evidence was fairly new back then, and was unfamiliar to the jurors. But that alone was enough to have convicted OJ. It was presented poorly and not explained properly so it went over the heads of jurors. Even if you wrote off the glove, blood was found on the cruiser and driveway as well. The DNA evidence was overwhelming, and the civil case, with more competent lawyers, proved it. But in that original trial that kind of bad luck and incompetence opened the door for a catch phrase and a slick lawyer to win.

underpants

(182,736 posts)
13. The only person convicted of anything in that whole thing - Mark Fuhrman
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:06 PM
Oct 2017

Now a Fox News contributor

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
17. It wasn't the prosecution that framed him
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:25 PM
Oct 2017

it was the police. They framed him... because they were a bunch of racist assholes.

They framed a guilty person... only to have their actions be put on trial instead of OJ. And he went free.



 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
25. So he managed to frame OJ over the senior detective who caught the Hillside Stranglers?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:44 PM
Oct 2017

Because what you are suggesting is that a senior detective, someone who caught the Hillside Stranglers, conspired with the entire coroner staff, every single member of the LAPD involved, and the entire DA's office to frame OJ.

Use Occam's razor.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
29. what does a previous case have to do with either Furhman or OJ?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:50 PM
Oct 2017

You think the police don't look the other way when one of them does something to "create or arrange" evidence found at crrime scenes or near the person of interest? Even senior detectives with decent reputations?

As for the other forensic evidence... I didn't say OJ was not guilty... I think he did it.

But the police (at least one detective) framed him too. No conspiracy is needed.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
34. Like I said...you have claimed that the guy who caught the Hillside Stranglers
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:13 PM
Oct 2017

conspired in this. Are you honestly claiming that?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
27. Probably had to more to do with the Rampart scandal than love of OJ
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

At the time of his arrest OJ wasn't particularly well loved by the AA community in LA because after his football success he had little to do with them.

Also at the time the Rampart division had gone rogue and was abusing residents on a daily basis. Over 80 officers were involved, over 100 civil law suits were brought and over 100 million in payments made.

By the end of the trial the community was loving OJ because he became the only counter to what they were facing every day, something that the rest of LA was unaware of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal

dawg

(10,622 posts)
16. As he should be, seeing as how he was never convicted of murder.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:19 PM
Oct 2017

I've always thought the hotel heist was a setup job. But hey, he was dumb enough to fall for it, so I guess he got what he deserved.

I also think he did the killings, but the state had its chance to make that case, and they failed spectacularly.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
35. Some guy about a mile from me (in Naples Fl) is offering up his condo to OJ. Hopefully it doesn't
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:43 PM
Oct 2017

create a mess here.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
36. I think he was probably guilty. However, Furhman's behavior created a reasonable doubt
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:51 PM
Oct 2017

and OJ had to be given the benefit of that doubt.

So this was the fair result -- even if it meant a killer might have escaped the full penalty.

(He did pay a penalty in civil court, and I suspect his sentence in the burglary conviction was affected by his prior history.)

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