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Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:46 PM

 

Trump Genocide? Puerto Rico:"No drinking water. No food. No medicine. No dialysis. No insulin...

"No drinking water. No food. No medicine. No dialysis. No insulin. No homes. No fuel for generators. No president."


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Reply Trump Genocide? Puerto Rico:"No drinking water. No food. No medicine. No dialysis. No insulin... (Original post)
Madam45for2923 Sep 25 OP
Eliot Rosewater Sep 25 #1
Ken Burch Sep 25 #6
eppur_se_muova Sep 25 #2
DVRacer Sep 25 #5
eppur_se_muova Sep 25 #7
PatrickforO Sep 25 #16
AtheistCrusader Sep 25 #20
eppur_se_muova Sep 25 #22
malaise Sep 25 #3
Johnny2X2X Sep 25 #4
Ken Burch Sep 25 #8
sandensea Sep 25 #15
spanone Sep 25 #9
lpbk2713 Sep 25 #10
Madam45for2923 Sep 25 #12
JI7 Sep 25 #17
NNadir Sep 25 #11
BigmanPigman Sep 25 #13
Madam45for2923 Sep 25 #14
WinkyDink Sep 25 #24
SunSeeker Sep 25 #18
yardwork Sep 25 #19
Initech Sep 25 #21
roamer65 Sep 25 #23

Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:47 PM

1. Someone tell dumbshit they have no electoral votes there, maybe in that case

he wont purposely let them die as he is now doing.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:05 PM

6. Hearing that might make him double down, though.

He's likely to think "if they CAN'T vote, I don't have to keep them alive".

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:32 PM

2. Why aren't the USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy headed to Puerto Rico ?

They already know their way around the Caribbean pretty well.
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/usnscomfort/Pages/News.as

AFAIK, the Navy has not kept any of its ship-to-shore power gereration ships in operation. That seems a little short-sighted. Even one such ship would be a godsend right now.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9625729

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:02 PM

5. Because the USS Comfort is in near dry dock position

Other ships are being serviced and reoutfiited they had to replenish after the first two hurricanes. US Navy will respond also remember that sequesteration hurt availability of non combat vessels.

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Response to DVRacer (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:07 PM

7. Thanks ! Not great news, but at least it's not massive negligence or incompetence.

Hope they are on a crash schedule; they are needed badly.

One RWNJ remarked to HRC's tweet that they were already in PR, and "You'd know that if you were President."

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Response to DVRacer (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:01 PM

16. Once again, Republican cuts screw the American people.

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:49 PM

20. The USNS Comfort has a 33 foot draft. Puerto Rico's ports aren't deep enough blue water ports.

Most of the ships that dock there aren't over 26 feet draft. Including the largest of the cruise ships.

They're opening a port with a 50 foot channel depth waterway, but it's still under construction, and all it takes is for a medium sized yacht to be sitting on the bottom, and you crunch the Comfort.

For its intended purpose, the Comfort and the Mercy are examples of not thinking through the design requirements. Each has a single helipad, no hangar. It's practically useless for this specific scenario.

The LHD Kearsarge is in place, and it can handle multiple rotor wing aircraft, and it has the large hovercraft landing ships, so it's moving a lot of aid in and out. Much more effective in this role. Basically a landing ship and helicopter version of a Carrier.

Maryland Task Force One is arriving in Puerto Rico as well. I don't think people understand the scale of this disaster, nor the scale of the relief effort required.


This shit is for people who get things done. Not the Executive. The Office of the current President deserves neither credit not criticism for any part of the response effort. These plans and these resources are put together years in advance. You can't do it ad hoc from the Resolute in the Oval Office. The President, any President, can do little more than make promises and phone calls, in this regard. President Obama put some of it together. Bush put some of it together. It's an evolutionary thing, and it's bigger than any one disaster and bigger than any one president.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:33 PM

22. "This shit is for people who get things done. Not the Executive."

Man, is that true. I had really hoped that some in the military had a defined mission for disaster relief that gave them the leeway to rush in and help without waiting for Twitler to notice there was a problem, but I have no experience with the military and don't know how free they are to act. I have seldom heard news more encouraging than that the pros have got this. A real President would have at least reassured the country that action was under way, instead of engaging in more useless poo-flinging on Twitter.

Thanks for all the info. I'm sure no one in the WH has a clue as to *any* of these details, except the generals. And the details are truly matters of life and death.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:37 PM

3. They're not white

and they don't vote

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:57 PM

4. Bingo

Trump wants on whites to die.

And they do vote. Millions of American citizens live there who vote absentee.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:08 PM

8. Scary question: would Trump go THIS far to get back at Lin-Manuel Miranda?

I'm not asking that as any sort of joke.

Could he still be THAT pissed off that the HAMILTON! cast protested asked Mike Pence to make sure people's rights weren't taken away?

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:54 PM

15. Sure - and not only that: his knuckle-draggers don't consider Puerto Rico part of the U.S.

When he was briefed on the situation he probably bellowed: "Why should I throw taxpayer money at Portoricans? And what, piss off my base? Where's the upside? i don't see it."

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:11 PM

9. he's too busy tweeting about himself and his disastrous situation.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:13 PM

10. Trump makes Dumbya look like a frikkin hero.





Will the voters never learn this is what rethuglican presidents do ?

Trump is so far off the charts his cruelty is unimaginable.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:31 PM

12. Anyone who says that the 2 parties are the same is lying & has an agenda.

 

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:17 PM

17. W was an incompetent but did not want people to suffer

In trumps case he doesn't care and i believe he gets enjoyment grim certain types of people hurting.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:29 PM

11. You have to understand. He was tied up with an important battle with football players.

He's REPUBLICANISM writ big.

They brought it, they own it; they are it.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:33 PM

13. Everything the GOP ever does eventually boils down to $$$

in their overstuffed mattresses. That is how they can throw their own grandmom under a bus for a buck and still sleep well at night...sociopaths!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:35 PM

14. Everyone needs to remember this moment.

 

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:57 PM

24. Not "eventually." ASAP!

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:37 PM

18. K & R for exposure.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:39 PM

19. I'm horrified. This is horrible.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:02 PM

21. Every day it gets worse.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:11 PM

23. Reminds of the genocide against Native Americans.

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