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Coventina

(27,101 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:13 PM Sep 2017

Push for Gender Equality in Tech? Some Men Say Its Gone Too Far

SAN FRANCISCO — Their complaints flow on Reddit forums, on video game message boards, on private Facebook pages and across Twitter. They argue for everything from male separatism to an end to gender diversity efforts.

Silicon Valley has for years accommodated a fringe element of men who say women are ruining the tech world.

Now, as the nation’s technology capital — long identified as one of the more hostile work environments for women — reels from a series of high-profile sexual harassment and discrimination scandals, these conversations are gaining broader traction.

One of those who said there had been a change is James Altizer, an engineer at the chip maker Nvidia. Mr. Altizer, 52, said he had realized a few years ago that feminists in Silicon Valley had formed a cabal whose goal was to subjugate men. At the time, he said, he was one of the few with that view.

read more:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/23/technology/silicon-valley-men-backlash-gender-scandals.html?em_pos=large&emc=edit_ed_20170925&nl=the-edit&nlid=73531149&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0


What I found hilarious was the men's separatist group:

One radical fringe that is growing is Mgtow, which stands for Men Going Their Own Way and pronounced MIG-tow. Mgtow aims for total male separatism, including forgoing children, avoiding marriage and limiting involvement with women. Its message boards are brimming with activity from Silicon Valley, Mr. Altizer said.




Oh, those poor, fragile snowflakes!!!!

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Push for Gender Equality in Tech? Some Men Say Its Gone Too Far (Original Post) Coventina Sep 2017 OP
Fuck 'em! nt cbreezen Sep 2017 #1
Actually no one wants to fuck them Sanity Claws Sep 2017 #9
precisely! niyad Sep 2017 #10
I think that's why they are so bitter in the first place. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #11
I just felt like saying it... cbreezen Sep 2017 #13
Such delicate little snowflakes! Warpy Sep 2017 #2
I really wish being this stupid was painful to the stupid mythology Sep 2017 #3
IKR? Coventina Sep 2017 #4
Ahbloo bloo bloo blooooo WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #5
The headline itself is the problem. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #6
I'm all for it Phoenix61 Sep 2017 #7
Yep. Please! Separate!! Coventina Sep 2017 #8
Me, too. They should just GTOW already. kcr Sep 2017 #15
When women outnumber men, perhaps I'll listen... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #12
kick for afternoon crowd Coventina Sep 2017 #14
I started college as an engineering major, later 'seventies. hunter Sep 2017 #16
Haha! "Mean Drunk" God!! Coventina Sep 2017 #17
Those aren't Men lol Volaris Sep 2017 #18
So these are who is designing those asian sex-doll-robots!! JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #19
kick for the night shift... Coventina Sep 2017 #20

cbreezen

(694 posts)
13. I just felt like saying it...
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:52 PM
Sep 2017

normally, my language wouldn't be so colorful. And, no doubt, they are quite angry, which makes them even less attractive!

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
2. Such delicate little snowflakes!
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:18 PM
Sep 2017

Losing any unearned privilege at all makes them feel oppressed. Having that "no gurls alowd" sign on the workplace taken down makes them feel vulnerable. Being expected not to tell rape "jokes" in the workplace makes them feel all inhibited. Pardon me while I go cry them a river.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
3. I really wish being this stupid was painful to the stupid
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:21 PM
Sep 2017

Instead it's painful for everybody else. Although hey at least they are forgoing having kids.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
6. The headline itself is the problem.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:25 PM
Sep 2017

They are fighting to keep it male dominated. It's nothing new and is a notoriously hostile line of work for women. As the topic line indicates, they will fight against it. That in itself is unwelcoming of the best talent available.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
15. Me, too. They should just GTOW already.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:29 PM
Sep 2017

Preferably to a remote island with no connection to the rest of the world.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
16. I started college as an engineering major, later 'seventies.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:12 PM
Sep 2017

Engineering classes would typically have only a handful of women in them and it was a hostile environment for them.

I really wasn't into nerd-guy conversations about cars and "babes," so I changed my major to biology, third year in.

An engineer roommate I had then liked to listen to Christian rock. He'd also go on and on about intelligent design, knowing nothing of biology. I call his god the "mean drunk" god, the god who didn't give a shit about all the blatantly obvious flaws in his designs.

But all the weaknesses in human design make sense looking at them from the perspective of an evolutionary biologist; all the good, bad and ugly.





Volaris

(10,270 posts)
18. Those aren't Men lol
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:25 PM
Sep 2017

Those are fragile little boys who have to have an 'adult' sad because...you can fill in the rest for yourself. I'm of the opinion it involves the difference between Mother's Milk, and Father's Blood. Both can feed you, if required. One is natural, the other is quite a bit more...forced and painful is a good way to put it. These are a boys complaints. Fuck em.

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
19. So these are who is designing those asian sex-doll-robots!!
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:55 PM
Sep 2017

I knew there was a reason behind the creepy existence of the sex doll robots you read about in stories.

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