Disrespecting the Flag

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[underpants]

1. Hella YES!!

[Warpy]

2. Proud to be the first rec for this one

Nothing chaps my ass more than some right wing moron in a flag suit telling me I can't be an American if I'm a Democrat. Or talking smack about how the left is always burning flags, when the only ones he's seen being burned were on his teevee and were in other countries.

While nothing can be done about Mrs. Tacky and her red white and blue day core, I'd love to see US flag apparel out of the stores, so that if these morons want to wear flag suits, they're going to have to cut up real flags to make them. Maybe then they'd think about what they're doing.

Probably not.

[Pathwalker]

3. Thank you for this. It is a lesson many could use.

Fascism is now fashion-able.

[CrispyQ]

4. W signed an American flag.

The photo must be out there on the web somewhere.

[keithbvadu2]

6. "W signed an American flag."

https://www.google.com/search?q=bush+sign+american+flag&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsqYauyL7WAhVeF2MKHUMZCgoQsAQIJQ&biw=813&bih=381

[Lars39]

43. Bush Senior had a blazer lined with an American flag.

http://www.gettyimages.com/event/former-president-george-h-w-bush-attends-building-dedication-at-fort-bragg-50829249#george-hw-bush-41st-president-of-the-united-states-flashes-the-inside-picture-id50833924

[CrispyQ]

44. Laughing. I hadn't seen that before.

I wish people had as much concern for The Constitution as they do for the flag.

[Lars39]

45. Truly

[democratisphere]

5. But what are all of those patriotic 'murkins for drumpf going to wear?

[Initech]

7. Love this!!!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

10. But that would only apply to his status as commander in chief.

That is, only to the armed forces. He is not commander in chief of the United States, so everyone else is free to tell him to

[MyOwnPeace]

31. He's working on it.....

right now. He's awaiting a call from Ivanca to find out how they can sell 100 million "somethings" (made in China, of course) using his revision of the "code" and let them show what wonderful patriots they are, marching their way to the bank yet again by being the "Commander in Chief!"

[mahatmakanejeeves]

9. "The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally,..."

I'm sure I've seen that done on many occasions. I didn't know that was considered a no-no.

The clothes and uniforms I knew about.

[X_Digger]

12. Like on a casket..

.. yeah, that one seems to have fallen out of favor.

[Quixote1818]

27. Draping them on a casket not mentioned in the code

Seems generally accepted though:


http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/images/vba21-2008.pdf


But, it seems like no one really gives a shit about the code other than when it suits their purpose for fake outrage for political purposes.

[MyOwnPeace]

32. Quixote......

"But, it seems like no one really gives a shit about the code other than when it suits their purpose for fake outrage for political purposes."

You got that right!

Typical Republican hypocrisy, for sure!

[X_Digger]

36. That's kind of my point.. it's generally accepted, in spite of it flying in the face of the code.

[progressoid]

41. It's even done by members of the Military now.

[smirkymonkey]

11. K&R

[Glorfindel]

13. Silly stuff. Flag worship, secular idolatry

I agree with Rudyard Kipling and his opinion of "the flag" in his poem, "The Widow at Windsor":

"Take 'old o' the Wings o' the Mornin',
An' flop round the earth till you're dead;
But you won't get away from the tune that they play
To the bloomin' old rag over'ead."

[calimary]

26. Indeed.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

54. Pehaps, though symbolism is powerful. But for me it's the hypocrisy of the RWers who are constantly

disrespecting the flag, not to mention the Constitution of the republic for which it stands, flipping out about protests against institutionalized racism on the grounds they are disrespectful to the flag.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

14. How to Treat an American Flag

How to Treat an American Flag

Posted by historymaniacmegan on March 25, 2015

....
When lowered, it should never touch the ground, water, or other object as well as received in waiting hands. It should be folded neatly and ceremoniously.



Of course, I can attach much political symbols on this picture during the 5th anniversary of 9/11. But even Mr. and Mrs. Bush should know better than to step and wipe their feet on the stars and stripes.

....
Don’t place any word, design, insignia, number, letter, mark, picture, or drawing on it (meaning you don’t write anything on it or use it for any design).



For a Vice Presidential candidate known for her extremely hateful conservative comments and love for traditional American values, Sarah Palin sure doesn’t have any qualms about desecrating a sacred national symbol with her autograph.

[raven mad]

17. When facism comes -

no, Sinclair Lewis didn't actually say it. But he could have. And "under gawd" in the Pledge was added the year I was born. I have never said it that way.

[LakeArenal]

15. Not to mention:

Supposed to be lighted at night or taken down.. Once your flag pole is sagging, the flag flaps toward the ground, the colors are faded and the seams are raveling, you are supposed to replace it. The flag is supposed to be burned with ceremony, not in your grill.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

16. Did someone say "Sarah Palin"?

[raven mad]

18. Thanks. My cofveve just came out of my nose.

[calimary]

28. Looks like a fair amount of flag desecration to me.

[MyOwnPeace]

33. NASCAR CALLED!!!!!

She's gotta' go, like, right now!!

GREAT post, mahatmakanejeeves!!

[Honeycombe8]

19. I thought they were kneeling during the anthem. Not a flag thing?

I don't watch football, so have just seen pics of the kneeling. I thought it was during the anthem. Not necessarily a flag protest.

[shadowmayor]

20. And let's not forget

Those ubiquitous obnoxious bullshit lapel pins worn by every bomb worshiping, fight -them-over-there peckerhead, and the scared shitless liberals, media asshats, and most red white and blue Americans to boot.

And what exactly are we getting for $700B this time?

[pangaia]

21. Great. Now just so I have ammunition if and when I need it...

Are all these 'uses' of the flag actually illegal? Or just "suggestions.?"

[Mr.Bill]

24. Violating the flag code

is not a crime. It is free speech.

[pangaia]

35. Thanks, Mr Bill

[Bob Loblaw]

22. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention

"Your Flag Decal Won't Get You in to Heaven Anymore"

--John Prine

[Denis 11]

23. Beautiful

Both of my sons serve in the military, phony conservatives don't own patriotism. ( Trump supporters are blown away when I tell them about my sons.)

[japple]

25. Eye bleach warning!!!! Aw, he forgot the G. Gordon Liddy picture.

[progressoid]

42. I texted that to my sister a few years ago and she screamed in horror when she saw it.

And scared the other patrons in the coffee shop!

[japple]

49. HAHAHAHAHAH! That cracked me up. It's the picture I always bring out when

r-wingers start yammering on about how certain groups of people have no respect for the flag.

[saidsimplesimon]

52. Oh japple, you went there. (big grin)

The "Ugly American"

[nini]

29. I had this talk with an uber right wing cousin once

Her opinion is it honors the flag to wear it as clothes etc..

I pointed all these things above out to her. She doesn't care because the right wingers own the flag now and will do what they want basically

I was raised following those rules by my hard core Democratic parents.

[handmade34]

30. ...

http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html


Flag Etiquette
STANDARDS of RESPECT
The Flag Code, which formalizes and unifies the traditional ways in which we give respect to the flag, also contains specific instructions on how the flag is not to be used. They are:

The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal.

The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.

The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.

The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms. To store the flag it should be folded neatly and ceremoniously.
The flag should be cleaned and mended when necessary.

When a flag is so worn it is no longer fit to serve as a symbol of our country, it should be destroyed by burning in a dignified manner.

Displaying the Flag Outdoors
When the flag is displayed from a staff projecting from a window, balcony, or a building, the union should be at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half staff.
When it is displayed from the same flagpole with another flag - of a state, community, society or Scout unit - the flag of the United States must always be at the top except that the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for Navy personnel when conducted by a Naval chaplain on a ship at sea.
When the flag is displayed over a street, it should be hung vertically, with the union to the north or east. If the flag is suspended over a sidewalk, the flag's union should be farthest from the building.
When flown with flags of states, communities, or societies on separate flag poles which are of the same height and in a straight line, the flag of the United States is always placed in the position of honor - to its own right.
..The other flags may be smaller but none may be larger.
..No other flag ever should be placed above it.
..The flag of the United States is always the first flag raised and the last to be lowered.
When flown with the national banner of other countries, each flag must be displayed from a separate pole of the same height. Each flag should be the same size. They should be raised and lowered simultaneously. The flag of one nation may not be displayed above that of another nation.

[Paka]

37. K&R

Love it!

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Was looking up some sources for 6 mil plastic sheeting and

saw this ("water blob"... apparently a thing) -

[IronLionZion]

39. I would rec his handle and profile pic

and yes the false patriotism of Trumpsters is disgusting.

Not only do these assholes disrespect our flag but they also screw over our troops by cutting veterans benefits plus they destroy the land and don't give a shit about the people of America. So it's really just a false showing of patriotism when they actually hold intense hatred towards many of their fellow Americans.

[PatSeg]

40. K&R

[blueinredohio]

46. Thanks for the post lots of things I didn't know

[niyad]

47. some of us are old enough to remember when the reichwing assholes used to scream

about people wearing various representations of the flag (60's). now, it seems to be almost a fashion requirement of the alt-reich.

[Towlie]

48. A gigantic American flag on a ridiculously tall flagpole has long been a well-known symbol of...

an auto dealership.

[PoiBoy]

50. Truth...

[spanone]

51. K&R...

[Eliot Rosewater]

53. Look forward to the time we can stop pretending

the right is held to or cares about morals, decency, rules or the Constitution and the law.

All of those things are means to an end for Donald Trump and/or your neighbor who makes minimum wage at Walmart.

To them America means a place where white people are king and rich white people are gods.

[doc03]

55. It shouldn't be displayed on your vehicle like General Paton and whipped by wind and

rain until it blows off and lands in ditch beside the highway.