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Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:17 PM

 

I never thought I could learn more about the Vietnam war until the PBS documentary

this week.

I was drafted in 1966 and spent most of 67 and part of 68 in the war. I knew we were being lied to but I thought that was to keep us from questioning.
But watching the PBS Vietnam special I now know they didn't know how they were ever going to get out of the war even before I got there and the escalation or why I went to war was for Johnson and his administration to save face.

I didn't die but what a fucked up reason to make me fight for survival for a year.

This documentary is going to bring back a lot of shit we stuffed way back in our minds.

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Reply I never thought I could learn more about the Vietnam war until the PBS documentary (Original post)
wasupaloopa Sep 2017 OP
LeftInTX Sep 2017 #1
True Dough Sep 2017 #2
jaysunb Sep 2017 #3
uponit7771 Sep 2017 #5
jaysunb Sep 2017 #6
wasupaloopa Sep 2017 #7
uponit7771 Sep 2017 #4
Blue_true Sep 2017 #8
The Blue Flower Sep 2017 #9
mahina Sep 2017 #10
catchnrelease Sep 2017 #13
mahina Sep 2017 #17
msongs Sep 2017 #11
Best_man23 Sep 2017 #12
jalan48 Sep 2017 #14
imanamerican63 Sep 2017 #15
Yavin4 Sep 2017 #16
uponit7771 Sep 2017 #19
BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #18

Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:25 PM

1. I know... learned how F'd up South Vietnam was from the get-go

The Diem regime reminded me of Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:25 PM

2. My dad did a peacekeeping tour there in the early 70s

He said the same thing about the documentary series. He felt like he knew a great deal, but he has learned a lot!

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:26 PM

3. There's not enough space here for me to add to your

post. I was not quite as naive as some, but didn't realize how deep the deception went.

And, in case no ones told you lately, "welcome back to the world, Brother."

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:29 PM

5. +1, and it all looks like it was to save face ... that's it, save face with someone else kids life!!

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:30 PM

6. +1000 n/t

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:31 PM

7. Thanks and same to you

 

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:29 PM

4. IT IS AMAZING !! "... China sent 320,000 'support' troops before end of Nam war ... " we should've

... ran then !!

Story telling by Burns is top notch, the time scenes are eye opening, real account cutaways lead into the action and some reveals.

If you think you know Nam then check your knowledge with Burns documentary.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:01 PM

8. The government lied to troops when they returned home.

A lot of them got Agent Orange dumped on them regularly and it took the government years to take care of them.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:39 PM

9. The series is superlative

Burns and Novick have done the greatest possible service to this country at this moment in history. I became a USMC spouse in 1970, right after my fiancÚ came home from a year's tour. None of us military spouses understood the reason why our marriages were so difficult. Ours didn't make it. This series has answered so many questions for me. The war was a crime against humanity, our troops, and the American people. Thank God the full story is being told to the nation at last.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:57 PM

10. Pinboy39er would have loved to connect with you.

He was a great DUer and a Vietnam vet too.

Nixon saving face is why my Dad fought for his life and the lives of his men in the tri-border region for a year. And why he lost the brother we were supposed to adopt, a Montegnard kid.

Seconded.

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Response to mahina (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:00 PM

13. My favorite DUer

I loved Pinboy. My husband is a Vietnam vet and we exchanged some pms on the topic of relationships. I miss him and his wonderful, painful puns.

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Response to catchnrelease (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 12:47 AM

17. Mine too.



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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:17 PM

11. my dad's job there was to analyze aerial photos of bombing of Hanoi. He came home and said son

the war is a fraud, dont' go. his group reported their analysis and when it hit the news media all the numbers
and outcomes were totally fabricated and jacked up to look way more successful according to him

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:55 PM

12. Very Rarely do I recommend any TV program

I've been recommending this series to everyone. I'm going to buy it when it comes out on DVD.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:04 PM

14. We were sold the need for the war because of the Gulf of Tonkin incident-it was a lie.

Why did our government do this?

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:12 PM

15. I watch and learn a lot about also.

Thank you for your service and sacrifice. It was a good series, but also very disturbing. No real plans going in, during and getting out. No leadership in Washington.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:22 PM

16. A lot of it was good old fashion racism.

We could not fathom that a colonized people simply did not want to be colonized and wanted to control their own fate. If we had worked with the nationalists from the beginning, we could have achieved the goal of stopping communism in Vietnam.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 07:48 AM

19. Yep, they never respected the Vietnamese

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Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 01:05 AM

18. The LBJ phone call with Eisenhower was illuminating

Basically LBJ thought all the anti war demonstrators were either communist infiltrators or mentally impaired. I've never been as enanamored with LBJ as some are and that bit affirmed my belief.

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