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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 04:40 PM Sep 2017

The Cassidy-Graham bill probably won't become law. And more than half of America is good with that.

By Amber Phillips September 22 at 4:30 PM

Republicans' last-ditch effort to repeal Obamacare was always a moonshot.

A bill proposed by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) looks like it doesn't have enough support in the Senate to pass a party-line vote. Republican leaders were trying to rush something through by Sept. 30. And now, we find, it's unpopular with the broader electorate.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that more than half of Americans prefer Obamacare (56 percent) to the latest GOP plan. A much smaller 33 percent of Americans prefer the bill that Senate Republicans, panicked by a month back home with their base and no Obamacare repeal to show, abruptly put on the table this month.

Worse for Republicans: Roughly twice as many people strongly prefer the current law to Republicans' plan, 42 to 22 percent.



These aren't necessarily gut reflexes either. The Post-ABC poll described three aspects of the Cassidy-Graham proposal to voters before asking what they prefer: its elimination of the requirement for nearly all Americans to have health insurance, the phasing out of federal funds to help lower and moderate income people buy health insurance, and letting states replace federal rules on health coverage with their own rules.

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The Cassidy-Graham bill probably won't become law. And more than half of America is good with that. (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
PROBABLY is the key word! BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #1
How could 33% prefer this to Obamacare? world wide wally Sep 2017 #2
Because they are not paying attention. murielm99 Sep 2017 #3
Because they think they shouldn't have to pay for things they "don't need"? haele Sep 2017 #4
until this is finally DEAD DonCoquixote Sep 2017 #5

BigmanPigman

(51,430 posts)
1. PROBABLY is the key word!
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 04:45 PM
Sep 2017

DO not relax, stay vigilant!!! It isn't over until Oct 1st and the GOP is getting a ton of pressure from their mega rich donors who want action for their investments. It is ALL about $$$ and never about people. The GOP can NOT be TRUSTED! McConnell is a sneaky bastard and must get a win. Keep calling and do not stop until Oct 1st. Please call (202)224-3121. THANK YOU!

murielm99

(30,655 posts)
3. Because they are not paying attention.
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 05:18 PM
Sep 2017

They would do anything to stick it to lubruls and get back at the black man who had the never to be elected twice. They don't care if they get hurt in the process. They think it is worth it.

haele

(12,581 posts)
4. Because they think they shouldn't have to pay for things they "don't need"?
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 05:26 PM
Sep 2017

Or they think the ACA raised their rates, not remembering rate hikes of 10 - 25% and erosion of coverage that had been going on every year for the decade prior to the ACA?
Or their original plan went away because their insurer decided not to be ACA compliant, and they were stuck with a more expensive exchange plan that didn't seem to cover exactly what they had before?
Or the ACA "made" them buy comprehensive insurance for the first time, and they couldn't figure the process out, or made too much for the subsidies or couldn't get on a Medicaid expansion plan.

Or they're like my "likes to work under the table for cash to avoid income taxes" son-in-law, who has no way to prove his income, has no savings, and isn't eligible for Covered California or MediCal, so he's stuck out of the system because there's no cheap "catastrophic only" or coupon/voucher insurance around anymore for people who can't afford more than maybe $50 a month out of pocket. Of course, I've seen what happens to people with those insurance policies when they get seriously sick or injured, or worse, develop a "pre-existing" condition that requires regular care for the rest of their lives. And son-in-law, at 6'7", is starting to show signs of Marfan's syndrome, which had contributed to the early deaths of several close members of his family.

Y'know, there are some legitimate problems with the ACA. It is, after all, an insurance policy - like Social Security - not actual Health Care or a health provider network.
There are some people that will be stuck in a donut hole of expenses - not making enough that they can pay out of pocket for most heath care and forgo insurance altogether for the most part, and making too much for subsidies or other assistance.

The people who are priced out of the health insurance exchanges aren't a majority by any means and within the standard 80% "confidence parameter" of coverage - estimated around 10% of the entire population - but they are still hurt. As for others who are complaining- well, they probably liked cheap coupon insurance because that was all they needed while they were young, or are caught in the "doctors v. insurance company" game.

In 2010, my premium for the family on a good "cheap" employer plan was almost a thousand a month, with a $10K family/$4K individual deductible, and decreasing coverage in pharmacy and mental health - and I had been seeing 10 - 15% premium increases since 2000.
Now, I'm paying around $750 a month with a $13K family/$2500 individual deductible with more services covered (especially therapy and mental health!) so it's better than it was.

There are a lot of expectations that some people had with the ACA that were never really possible, because the ACA was could only "fix" some of the problems with health insurance in this country - not all.
You can always find someone who isn't happy with their health insurance or health care choices. Everyone's situation is different, and there is no "one size fits all" situation.

Haele

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
5. until this is finally DEAD
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:35 AM
Sep 2017

we will need to keep beating the corpse, even if it is so messy that no one thinks it will get up, because, just like Jason and Michael Myers from the horror movies, it will.

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