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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:10 PM

1. LOL

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:13 PM

4. I take it you don't want the party to move left back to its roots?


Your cool with a party to the right of Nixon?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:14 PM

5. You have no idea what I want.

I would prefer you not make accusations. I don't know you.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:16 PM

8. Then what is wrong with the party moving left?

Just curious?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:02 PM

40. It's already solidly left. How dare you come claim here on DU that we're right of Nixon?

Whether you know that's completely wrong or don't doesn't really matter.



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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:04 PM

41. McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis to name a few.

Our candidates can write concession speeches, if we chose not to govern close to the middle.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:09 PM

44. Everybody on DU wants the party to move to the left

You are surrounded by left-liberals and progressives.

I don't like the tone of the author's article, I think his characterization of HRC is typical of "I hate Hillary" journalists who invent a strawman HRC that doesn't have much to do with the real person.

So I don't like the article, I find it both simplistic and overly divisive.

It's a crap article. However just because I think this one article is crap doesn't mean I don't want the party to move left.

So please try to refrain from ass-uming that people who don't like this author or his style are evil conservatives or 'centrists' It doesn't logically follow.

I doubt you would like it if people put words in your mouth or made illogical assumptions about you.

Have a great night!

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:02 PM

69. The Author of the article Defended Todd Akin's Rape Comments.

Dave Catanese, Politico Reporter, Defends Todd Akin Rape Comments
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/dave-catanese-politico-todd-akin-rape_n_1810222.html?utm_hp_ref=media

Not a great source for DU and not left.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:17 PM

11. Where in the HELL did the poster even get remotely CLOSE to saying anything

about Richard fucking Nixon?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:26 PM

19. Nixon is considered by many to be more liberal then even Obama


That is how badly our party has lost its way.

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To hear Republicans on the campaign trail, the United States could not have elected a more left-wing president than Barack Obama, one more hostile to business or more eager to expand government power. Left-wing Democrats, I’m sure, would disagree. If they had their druthers, they would probably make a more liberal, more pro-big government choice. Somebody, perhaps, like Richard Nixon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/business/the-gops-journey-from-the-liberal-days-of-nixon.html?mcubz=0

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:27 PM

22. So nowhere, thought so.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:29 PM

24. Don't pretend you didn't understand the point. nt

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:07 PM

42. Rubbish.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:18 PM

13. Except that is not its roots.

The Democratic party was originally the party of slavery. In the 20th century it became a coalition between southern conservative segregationists and northern union workers.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:27 PM

21. I was referring to the FDR wing of the Democratic Party. nt

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #21)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:30 PM

26. And that wing supported segregation

as well as the interment of Japanese Americans during WWII. Let's be honest about the history of the party. Creating a fantasy about the 'glory days' that never existed won't help in going forward.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #26)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:34 PM

29. We both no Sanders isn't for segregation.



Nice straw-man though to change the focus.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:11 PM

2. Jesus.

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Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:13 PM

3. Berniecrat?

 

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:14 PM

6. The end of the Clinton era is upon us

The Democratic Party has been moving right for three decades now. It is time for it to come back to it's roots.

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Response to padfun (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:16 PM

9. Bingo! nt

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:18 PM

12. Bingo Clinton was too far right? Thx in advance for response to a question

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Response to padfun (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:17 PM

10. Democrats will define its own roots and Clinton is a part of it

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:21 PM

16. Yes, she certainly is

And thank goodness for it. Lots of stuff going on behind the scenes, or so I hear.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:09 PM

45. Actually I agree and there is more than enough room for her in the big tent.

Honestly, despite the divisive rhetoric here on DU, there wasn't that big of a difference between Bernie and Hillary issue wise.

But I am ecstatic about giving the liberal or so called Sanders wing of the party greater emphasis!

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Response to padfun (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:22 PM

17. I believe the original Democratic Party was "rooted" in slavery

I think I will pass.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:12 PM

46. Those Dixiecrats moved to the Repug party in the 60's and 70's.

The Democratic Party back then had lots of conservatives.
And the original Progressives were in the Republican party in the early 1900's, until there was a backlash in the 1910's and 1920's.

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Response to padfun (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:59 PM

38. The end of the era that accomplished the most for low and middle income families since LBJ

 

and FDR. Yeah, that. The era the put more POC and different religions in positions of power than any other. Yeah, that era. The era that government agencies changed their focus to putting people first and rescuing FEMA from the clutches of disregard and under-funding. Yeah, that. The era of relative peace and prosperity that moved more people into the middle class than the past two decades.

Ok. If that is what you mean.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:16 PM

7. LOL!


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:19 PM

14. Whatever you do, DONT express support for CERTAIN Democrats around here. Especially

any Clinton.

Can we even mention Chelsea here?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:26 PM

20. I'd love to see Chelsea run for public office. I believe Hillary when she says she won't run...

... for public office again, but I'd certainly welcome it. In the meantime, I believe she'll continue to be a strong and loud voice for the progressive causes that mean the most to me.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:30 PM

27. I love this!

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Response to mcar (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:42 PM

34. I do too!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:28 PM

58. !

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:20 PM

15. Just stop this.

You know that posts like this trigger another back-and-forth between Bernie supporters and many DU Democrats. It does nothing but escalate frustrations and tensions in our community.

Posts like this weaken our focus on 2018 and other issues, and damage our community, thread by thread.

So cut it out.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #15)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:32 PM

28. Why would I want to stop my party from moving left?


Isn't that what this is fundamentally about? The direction of the party? Continue on the centrist path or moving back to where it use to be when I became a Democrat?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #28)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:15 PM

47. Everybody here at DU on the left. Not everyone likes dumb divisive articles

If someone doesn't like a dumb divisive article, that doesn't mean they are a "centrist". I posted something similar up thread. Please refrain from putting words or ideological viewpoints into people's mouths

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:24 PM

18. The author of this piece has written numerous pro Trump and Sanders pieces.

 

While trashing Clinton in others. Some will fall for it. How I don't know as he is really transparent in his ratfucking.

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Response to Weekend Warrior (Reply #18)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:37 PM

30. Please stop posting pieces by people who carry water for Trump

This guys is a chump

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Response to Weekend Warrior (Reply #18)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:53 PM

37. I googled his name and if there are any they are few and far between. Regardless the premise

of the article is correct. Democrats are now getting behind more liberal policies and that is a fact. It's also a fact that Sanders has paved the way for it to move in this direction. Sorry it upsets you the party is moving left.

Reading the article, it didn't strike me as pushing an agenda, just reporting a trend in politics that is pretty glaring right now. Dems becoming more liberal. Not sure why this is so upsetting? Kind of mindbogglingly really since this is a Democratic / progressive site.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #37)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:20 PM

54. "Dave Catanese, Politico Reporter, Defends Todd Akin Rape Comments"

Your esteemed author is a rape apologist.

Dave Catanese, Politico Reporter, Defends Todd Akin Rape Comments
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/dave-catanese-politico-todd-akin-rape_n_1810222.html?utm_hp_ref=media

Politico reporter Dave Catanese took to Twitter to defend comments made by Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) about rape.

“Poor phrasing, but if you watch the intv @ToddAkin meant to convey that there’s less chance of getting pregnant if raped,” he said.

Akin told KTVI on Sunday that victims of “legimitate rape” don’t usually get pregnant because women’s bodies have “ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” He later said he “misspoke” but did not disavow the claims.

Catanese tweeted that Akin’s comments, while poorly phrased, were worth discussing.

“So perhaps some can agree that all rapes that are reported are not actually rapes? Or are we gonna really deny that for PC sake?” he said. “So looks like he meant to say — ‘If a woman was REALLY raped, it’s statistically less likely for her to get pregnant.’ What’s the science?”

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Response to Post removed (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:38 PM

32. Hillary did damage to Dems and people who are to the left of Trump?

That's nonsense.

Bernie and Hillary barely had any policy differences between them.

welcome to DU!

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:59 PM

39. notice a lot of the anti HRC are LPC members? ... deja vu

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Response to Post removed (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:32 PM

63. I Do So Love

People who tell us what Dems & HRC need to do.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:39 PM

65. Go away. nt

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:29 PM

25. ...

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:37 PM

31. Please stop.

This is divisive posting and nothing more.

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Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:42 PM

35. LA LA LA LA IM NOT LISTENING LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #35)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:05 PM

73. Why would any anyone at all listen to the "progressive thinker" who said

"'So perhaps some can agree that all rapes that are reported are not actually rapes? Or are we gonna really deny that for PC sake?' he said. 'So looks like he meant to say — ‘If a woman was REALLY raped, it’s statistically less likely for her to get pregnant.’ What’s the science?'"

Here's the science, David. You should have googled it before you tweeted. Isn't that what real journalists call due diligence?

"More than 32,000 pregnancies result from rape every year with the highest rates of rape-induced pregnancy reported by women in abusive relationships."

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/consequences.html

Yeah! Let's all get our talking points from David Catanese!

And what a cute graphic of the typical little lady who won't listen when a rape apologist as eminently qualified as Catanese helpfully schools her on "real rape" versus the other kind of rape that's all in her imagination.



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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:43 PM

36. Bernie Sanders makes me long for a parliamentary system with one house.


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Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:07 PM

43. Didn't know HA Goodman wrote for USnews

Oh wait, even better-- it's David Cantenese! The rape apologist! Perhaps he'll discuss how it's harder to get pregnant after being raped as he once encouraged.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #43)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:17 PM

48. Oh geez. I am gonna have to Google, don't want you to...

... have to risk getting alerted by posting a link to that type of screed, but like train wrecks, I can't help but be interested....

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #51)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:29 PM

60. Wow. And looking in my Google search...

Another HuffPo article shows his very non-apology apology. Claimed he didn't intend to "take a side" and blamed the issue being "highly charged", when he's the one who asks "What's the science?" and suggested rapes were over-reported.

In fact, I remember someone doing the math of the 3-5 day window a month a woman is capable of becoming pregnant and determining that the number of reported pregnancies from rape was actually higher than would be predicted from the number of reported rapes -- suggesting underreporting of rapes that don't cause pregnancy.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #51)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:29 PM

61. Enough to make you vomit, yes?

I'm still cringing just seeing his name as some sort of--authority--just gross.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #61)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:33 PM

64. Yes it is beyond gross

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #43)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:17 PM

49. So he defended the 'legitimate' rape candidate

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Response to JI7 (Reply #49)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:18 PM

50. Yup

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #50)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:19 PM

52. Fuck him

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Response to JI7 (Reply #52)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:20 PM

53. Exactly

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #53)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:22 PM

55. I don't really care what guys like that have to say about any woman

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Response to JI7 (Reply #55)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:26 PM

56. It is sad that this "legitimate rape" asshole got dragged onto DU as an "expert"

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #56)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:29 PM

62. He is trolling with piece also. Not surprising since us news leans conservative

I use to get the magazine for free for a while and they would always have these type of articles on democrats.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #55)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:28 PM

59. Once you've defended something that asinine and sick you lose all moral authority

As well as credibility on any topic ever--quite frankly I'm surprised to see anything of his used here for any topic--And that's saying something

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Response to JI7 (Reply #52)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:52 PM

67. Yup

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:27 PM

57. So Sanders is still running against Clinton?

That is one powerful woman!

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:41 PM

66. The author is a disgusting piece of shit.

His views are quite thoroughly worthless.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:53 PM

68. Oh boy

More Bernie Sanders worship.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #68)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:05 PM

70. About the author of the article...

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:18 PM

71. 'Dawn of the Berniecratic Party '? Really?

I am a Democrat, I won't ever be a Berniecrat.

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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 08:22 PM

72. David Catanses of Todd Akin's fame, who was so quick to defend Todd Akins' "legitimate rape" remark

Thank-you so much for sharing his remarks with us. He is so "qualified" to discuss women in politics....... IN A PIGS EYE!!!!!!!!

You remember Todd Akins don't you? How "legitimate" rape really doesn't count as rape.


"Ok, I’m gonna (ask for it) & defend @toddakin for argument’s sake.We all know what he was trying to say . . .
— davecatanese (@davecatanese) August 20, 2012

Then this:

Poor phrasing, but if you watch the intv @toddakin meant to convey that there’s less chance of getting pregnant if raped.
— davecatanese (@davecatanese) August 20, 2012"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/politico-reporter-ventures-defense-of-todd-akin/2012/08/20/21221f08-ea8b-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_blog.html?utm_term=.bda270802255#comments

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/politicos-dave-catanese-pulled-off-todd-akin-story/2012/08/20/5094a34c-eb16-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_blog.html?utm_term=.7d1c4647ca32

This is the kind of person who should talk about Hillary?

While you are at it, perhaps you can find some articles to share with us on David Duke's view on race relations

Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you, for sharing the views of a Hillary hating asshole.






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Response to Post removed (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:06 PM

74. Berniecratic party...

 

...actually made me throw up in my mouth a little so...thanks?

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