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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:47 AM Sep 2017

GOP using same tactic for tax-reform that they used for failed Obamacare-repeal.

We all remember the failed Obamacare-repeal: "Just vote for the bill! You can find out what's in it later on!"



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/14/1698660/-Ryan-expresses-full-confidence-GOP-will-pass-tax-bill-that-still-doesn-t-exit#read-more

When it comes to the Republican tax bill, whatever you do, don't ask for details. "I’m not going to get into baselines," Speaker Paul Ryan told the AP Thursday, "simply because our tax writers are going to be putting the paper up pretty soon."

It's coming the week of September 25 supposedly, yet the guy in charge of writing it, House Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady, told Huffington Post Wednesday that they were “still hammering out the details.”

Nonetheless, Ryan is fully confident it'll pass before the start of the New Year. "Our plan is to get this done by the end of the year—for law—so that we start 2018 with a new tax system," he said.

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“We have a full bill. That’s not a problem,” senior Ways and Means member Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) said, according to The Wall Street Journal. “Showing it is the challenge.”

Once Republicans release this document laying out the broad strokes of reform, lawmakers and interest groups will be able to attack from all sides. Conservatives may say the tax cuts aren’t ambitious enough. More moderate members ― somewhat ironically, by more traditional standards of fiscal restraint ― may have problems with how much the overhaul will increase the deficit. (Conservatives don’t seem to have a problem adding more money to the deficit, as long as it’s for tax cuts.) And individual loopholes, either the closing of them or their continued existence, will almost certainly draw opposition from even the most normally amenable lawmakers.



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The Republicans have (kinda-sorta maybe maybe-not) a bill they really, really want to vote on... but they would prefer that people don't get to see it before it's being voted on.

Does that sound familiar?

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GOP using same tactic for tax-reform that they used for failed Obamacare-repeal. (Original Post) DetlefK Sep 2017 OP
Its the same old sleight of hand, the favorite trick of hucksters and con men procon Sep 2017 #1

procon

(15,805 posts)
1. Its the same old sleight of hand, the favorite trick of hucksters and con men
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:11 PM
Sep 2017

everywhere. Remember Trump's preposterous braggadocio that he had a super 'Secret Plan' to defeat ISIS, but he couldn't tell anyone, and evidently he still hasn't told the generals how that works. Of course, he also had a secret plan to ease Russia sanctions, and that one did get leaked.

For years, Republicans crowed that they had a fabulous plan to replace ACA, and Trump prattled about it being better than anything ever seen in history, but so far they haven't produced anything. Now they're going to try and con us again with a massive tax cuts for themselves and their rich pals, and float the lie that it is really going to help the middle class... more trickle down BS hocus pocus.

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