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Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:36 PM

 

Dems joining effort to neuter ADA

https://rewire.news/article/2017/09/11/congress-makes-progress-destroying-americans-disabilities-act/

There are several Dem co-sponsors. Just makes it harder to turn out disabled voters. Time for primaries.

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Reply Dems joining effort to neuter ADA (Original post)
NCDem777 Sep 2017 OP
fleur-de-lisa Sep 2017 #1
NCDem777 Sep 2017 #8
samnsara Sep 2017 #2
NCDem777 Sep 2017 #5
diva77 Sep 2017 #17
PoorMonger Sep 2017 #3
JonLP24 Sep 2017 #15
PoorMonger Sep 2017 #16
Girard442 Sep 2017 #4
NCDem777 Sep 2017 #14
Demit Sep 2017 #6
NCDem777 Sep 2017 #7
Demit Sep 2017 #18
WhiteTara Sep 2017 #9
NCDem777 Sep 2017 #11
WhiteTara Sep 2017 #12
NCDem777 Sep 2017 #13
PoorMonger Sep 2017 #10

Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:40 PM

1. What the what?

From the article:

"Right now, if a disabled person faces an ADA violation, such as inaccessibility, at a business, they can file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) or file a lawsuit in court. Because there is no entity responsible for ensuring that businesses comply with the ADA, enforcement depends on people with disabilities to challenge violations.

Put briefly, if the ADA Education and Reform Act is passed, this will be a much more difficult process. Specifically, if HR 620 is passed, a person with a disability would be obligated to provide written notice to a business owner who has violated the ADA. The business owner would then have 60 days to even acknowledge that there is a problem and another 120 days to make progress toward correcting the violation. In other words, people with disabilities will have to wait 180 days to enforce their civil rights."

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:53 PM

8. HR 620 in a nutshell

 

"We've failed to obey #ADA for 27 years, but just give us 1 more chance before you sue us."

Of course, there's no guarantee these poor oppressed businesses won't be back for another extension soon after this passes.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:41 PM

2. i couldnt find dem co sponers..which ones are they?

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Response to samnsara (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:47 PM

5. Here

 

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:31 PM

17. thanks for link; here are the Dem cosponsors (I got them from your link)

Cosponsors HR 620 Date Cosponsored

Rep. Peters, Scott H. [D-CA-52]* 01/24/2017

Rep. Bera, Ami [D-CA-7]* 01/24/2017

Rep. Speier, Jackie [D-CA-14]* 01/24/2017

Rep. Aguilar, Pete [D-CA-31] 02/27/2017

Rep. Correa, J. Luis [D-CA-46] 03/22/2017

Rep. Foster, Bill [D-IL-11] 03/28/2017

Rep. Sinema, Kyrsten [D-AZ-9] 03/29/2017


Rep. Rush, Bobby L. [D-IL-1] 05/19/2017

Rep. Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL-7] 05/22/2017

Rep. Cuellar, Henry [D-TX-28] 07/26/2017

Rep. Costa, Jim [D-CA-16] 08/08/2017


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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:45 PM

3. Where Does It Say Dems Support This?

Just read the article and it says that it was on party lines. D's proposed amendments that were shot down. Then several Dems ripped it as a terrible piece of legislation.

Don't see anything that says any Democrats voted or would vote for it.

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Response to PoorMonger (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:25 PM

15. It does have Democratic co-sponsors

Including from my district Krysten Sinema.

She didn't used to be a DInO but once she got elected she certainly turned into one.

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #15)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:28 PM

16. Yeah

I read the co sponsors list.

11 D's

Including Spier from the intelligence committee who I thought was pretty good. Very sad

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:46 PM

4. We know what the Nazis thought of disabled people.

They called them Lebensunwertes Leben, literally "life unworthy of life". Wonder why the Republicans are in such a hurry to get on that particular bandwagon.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:20 PM

14. It's where the base leads them

 

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:48 PM

6. I don't understand the connection to disabled voters?

 

This proposed legislation concerns businesses. What am I missing?

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Response to Demit (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:50 PM

7. Many disabled people don't vote

 

because they believe that NEITHER party likes them. When Dems are joining in with the GOP in neutering the ADA, they might have a point.

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:07 PM

18. Well, I'm sorry, that's a weird reason not to vote.

 

Disabled people in my precinct, when I was a poll worker, they voted. And our polling place accommodated them. My experience is VERY different from yours. Where did you experience this, if you don't mind my asking?

You decided that the fact there are Democratic cosponsors of this bill means that Democrats don't "like" the disabled. You ignore the full Democratic NO vote to this bill on the committee. Sorry, I'm not following your reasoning.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:54 PM

9. the vote was along party lines

Despite this strong condemnation, however, the House Judiciary Committee held a markup hearing on Thursday where it voted HR 620 out of committee. The final vote was 15 to 9 along party lines; all of the amendments proposed by Democrats, including additional damages if a business fails to make progress after 120 days, were rejected. The ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017 will now move to a full House floor vote.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:08 PM

11. The bill

 

has several Dem co-sponsors

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:12 PM

12. I saw that and called Jackie Spiers office

they wouldn't give me any answers why she would co sponsor such a thing because I'm not in her district.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:15 PM

13. Obviously Jackie has overstayed her welcome

 

Some people will likely accuse me of being a purist

I see it as having things that are non-negotiable.

I mean if the Dem is going to straight up pander to bigots and Nazis, why vote Dem?

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:55 PM

10. Barf!

6 of 11 D's who co-sponsor are from California. Guessing that it's somehow a 'best for business' move in their minds.

Fuck off outta here with that garbage

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