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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOnly in America could "Bless your heart" become code for "fuck you."
Only in America could "Bless your heart" become code for "fuck you." FUGELSANG.
drray23
(7,616 posts)jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)they are under every rock, we were the petri dish...
Doreen
(11,686 posts)blogslut
(37,982 posts)Granted, it's a nuanced phrase and one must consider the person being addressed. The phrase that I consider more offensively passive-aggressive is "I will pray for you." - certain people pack so much seething hatred inside those words.
TomSlick
(11,088 posts)"bless your heart," means "you're an idiot." We don't wish you any particular ill just recognize that you will bring it on yourself.
Actually, it's more complicated. If someone does you a favor, the response is "bless your heart" meaning thanks.
The meaning is only known from the context and tone of voice.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)just as you said, depends on context & tone.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Or "My goodness, she's slowing to 20 on every turn. Bless her heart." Criticism with an acceptance and recognition that someone is a person.
One element of southern behavior that should be copied widely. Taking it as mean and hostile instead of a way of avoiding being mean misses the wonderful function of this phrase.
KelleyKramer
(8,901 posts)You are exactly right, it needs to be taken in context to know what the person really means
And yes one of those are a passive aggressive way of saying fuck you.
theaocp
(4,232 posts)Why be passive aggressive about telling someone how you feel? Are we fucking middle schoolers? If you have to say what you think with a "wink", what does that say about you? (not you in particular)
mitch96
(13,870 posts)It transcends the "if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything at all"
At face value you are paying them a compliment but not. So Aunt Tilly who at trys to be nice gets a free pass to diss you... uggh.. She would never say something bad to your face..
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KelleyKramer
(8,901 posts)to use foul language. Maybe it's at work, or church, or maybe a PTA meeting
And there might be other places you could get away with saying fuck you, but the person really is a passive aggressive prick
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Which. as I understand it, can mean either "brilliant suggestion", "don't sweat it" or "no way you don't get whacked for that".
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Probably followed by an "I'm sorry"
theaocp
(4,232 posts)Je t'aime, Canada. hahahahaha
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)or "You're an idiot".
Really, it depends.
But I suppose one would have to be raised around the use of the phrase to understand that much like the word "fuck", it has more than one use/meaning.
I can make "Thank you" sound like "fuck you". Again, all depends on context and inflection.
I speak fluent southern.
mitch96
(13,870 posts)Especially when talking to Yangeezz... They think I'm being nice...
Kinda sorta like when you don't give a pan handler any money and they say "God bless"
Another way of saying F.U.
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phylny
(8,367 posts)We're just too nice to diss you right to your face.
mitch96
(13,870 posts)I have not found that to be true.. Than again I lived "up north" but have spent most of my life in the south.. I still have some of my nuYawk accent so maybe they think I'm "un ermano".
YMMV..
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theaocp
(4,232 posts)That's cowardly.
davsand
(13,421 posts)You can say the meanest possible things about somebody as long as it's followed by, "Bless his/her heart" or "God love 'em!" It's a common thing in the south and in rural areas. In customer service situations, "Have a nice day" can be delivered absolutely dripping with venom, and nobody can complain about it without sounding like a total ass. All are useful phrases to keep in your toolbox.
I think the thing that really is elevated to a high art in the south is throwing shade. No place on earth I have ever seen houses more people capable of throwing shade in full sunlight. "Is that a new dress?" is an example of what I'm talking about. It can be somebody commenting on a new outfit, or it can be a subtle comment that they have noticed you are wearing the same stuff all the time, or maybe even a comment on your taste. It's all rooted in the inflection and the body language.
Tasting the potato salad you took to a cookout, "She didn't use Dukes." "My granny always dressed her 'taters warm." "I've never had celery in this before..."
Your new hair cut. Your car. Your flowers. Your decorating skills...
It's a high art. Seriously. Bless their hearts.
Laura
mitch96
(13,870 posts)Bingo!! I was trying to think of the Idea and that's it... Throwing shade.
I would also add the slight right to left head shake to add emphasis..
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greyl
(22,990 posts)mitch96
(13,870 posts)" Have a blessed day" Don't know it's origin but its being thrown around a bunch. The guy at the convenience store hit me with this the other day and I said.. NO! He was taken aback by my response. Isn't it a Witchie/Wicken term? or is it "blessed be" I don't remember..
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Does South America have this, or some other, insidious dehumanizing factor?
librechik
(30,673 posts)kacekwl
(7,013 posts)I visited my mother's relatives in Texas when I was fiveish (a long time ago) ..and all I recall was chasing chickens , watching old men play dominos , drinking Dr. Pepper and the old ladies saying about me " Bless his heart " .