I am LMAO at the people who wanted Nancy Pelosi to go.

[Tavarious Jackson]

She just raked in some wins no matter how you look at it.

[lillypaddle]

1. Agree

Nancy is BADASS!

[HipChick]

2. yep

[Demsrule86]

3. She is the best!

[Mrs. Overall]

4. Exactly!

[Hekate]

5. It really makes you suspect their motives. Or their intelligence. Or both. nt

[Tavarious Jackson]

7. Indeed

Some of them.. (not here on DU) but elsewhere like twitter had RW views such as giving up on social issues for economic issues even though that has been tried and failed time and time again. They go hand and hand.

[NurseJackie]

6. It's always a certain "type" that lashes out and smears Pelosi...

... I'm getting better at spotting them because they all have common traits and posting habits... they use the same language (ie: buzzwords) and they have the same peeves and/or hot-buttons. I'm rarely surprised any more whenever the attacks on her start.

I am LMAO at the people who wanted Nancy Pelosi to go.

You're correct. They are laughably absurd. Sadly, their absurdity has serious and often devastating consequences.

Those individuals were very short-sighted and divisive. I believe they're being influenced by the "burn-it-down" and the "destroy-to-rebuild" subset of Stein-voters and other assorted defenders and sympathizers.

[Tavarious Jackson]

8. Also sounds like the Bannon way...nt

[Hamlette]

22. My "dump Nancy" friend says he name has been too maligned to do anything.

I know that 30 years of Hillary bashing made her a weaker candidate but they will do it to any Dem. and I refuse to give in. Although I think they are harder on women and minorities, look at what they did to Bill Clinton. He probably only survived because he was a

[Weekend Warrior]

9. They made their run to replace her with a more socially conservative white male.

It was as clear as could be. That is the faction who was out for her.

[JCanete]

20. Tim Ryan made his own move. That is hardly the kind of challenge lefties wanted to put forward.

There was nothing at all he offered that the left would prefer over Pelosi, so you can't put all calls to replace her as speaker in the same basket.

Whether they are right to want something different is worth challenging, but it doesn't change the fact that there were no far left voices actually supporting Tim Ryan's bid.

[Weekend Warrior]

21. "no far left voices actually supporting Tim Ryan's"

That doesn't match up with reality. At all.

[JCanete]

23. really? Who supported him on the far left? You could easily refute my claim. Maybe I missed it.

I just did a search of some of the people I listen to and they were all down on him. I'll grant that there's no way I could have actually done the research necessary to make as bold a claim as I did, but it would strike me as odd if somebody on the far left wanted Ryan, since he hardly represents the progressive wing of the party. Just point me to the person and I'll entirely retract my statement.

[Steven Maurer]

36. Anecdotally, I know a crowd of far lefties on facebook

...and they were all for Ryan, not bothering to learn a thing about him.

To them, it's all about stiggint to the Democratic party for betraying saint Sanders, helped along will large dollops of conspiracy theories, and coffee house antifa white privilege goons.

But that's Portlandia for you.

[JCanete]

37. being disaffected by mainstream politics, and even being fans of Sanders, does not in itself

make you far left, or even suggest you necessarily lean progressive. That they were pro Ryan actually suggests that they hardly know where they themselves are on the spectrum. That or they made really bad assumptions when they bought into him as a challenger. It seems odd as fuck to me though that people would jump to the conclusion that any challenger is a good challenger, without actually sitting down and looking at that person's record.

Either way, they certainly don't offer the kind of legitimacy to the claim I was looking for, which would require them to be actual left-leaning talking heads, politicians or activists.

[Steven Maurer]

38. I generally agree, I'm pretty far left myself. Just realistically so.

I canvass, so I can't fool myself about how ready the public is for a lot of progressive proposals.
I spent a ton of time working on Oregon's Measure 97 only to watch it go down.
I knew it was in trouble when I was having to persuade Democrats.


But the people I'm talking about all call themselves "far-left", though they never actually do much to advance it. Seems more like an excuse to look down on people, mostly.

Still, there are enough of them, and I won't tell them they're not what they say they are. Mostly I just try to ignore them.

[Gothmog]

10. K&R

[IronLionZion]

11. Make Pelosi Speaker Again

[linnknee]

12. I'm proud of Nancy and she is the best at whatever she does

[Cryptoad]

13. Majoirty of those wanting her to go are,,,

GOP Oligarchs trolls incognito!

[Tavarious Jackson]

14. Yep.

You know... those that endorse anti choice candidates...

[Hortensis]

41. If not a majority, absolutely hostile agents are on DU. We see their

hand everywhere issues that we mostly agree on (or we wouldn't be here) are twisted to divide.

[George II]

15. Yep. She (and Schumer) have come out as being more effective than Ryan and McConnell.

[Orsino]

16. I think we'll never know what jsut happened, not really...

...but I have to suspect her experience has just paid off again.

[dragonlady]

34. Some of that experience came from raising a number of children

which seems relevant in this situation.

[JCanete]

17. Serious question, what were those? What did I miss? Oh, the debt ceiling and hurricane relief.

That is an interesting development.

[mcar]

18. Exactly!

I don't get why people don't understand this.

[MineralMan]

19. Nancy Pelosi knows how things are done, and she does them.

That's why she is the minority leader and has been Speaker. Anyone who wants her to be gone wants us to lose.

She and Schumer know what they're about.

[wryter2000]

24. I'm not laughing

It's that sort of nonsense that splits us and gives aid and comfort to the Republicans.

[Madam45for2923]

25. I am laughing with ya! Nancy Pelosi is a force!

[Expecting Rain]

26. Agreed! It also shows just how wrong those who ripped on Dianne Feinstein...

were last week. When we can bend Trump to our position, we should do so. When we can't we should resist.

We have smart leadership in Pelosi and Schumer!

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. Yes, excellent leadership.

Now we just need to "frame" every conversation this way:

"We are not Nazis, they are, anymore questions?"

[FreepFryer]

27. Big time. Trumpublicans don't hate her without very good reason.

As the opposition party, we can treat campaigns to undermine our leaders as excellent indicators of their value to the Democratic Party.

[Eliot Rosewater]

29. Good point, this is why the right and especially PUTIN hated HILLARY

so much, he knew he was NO MATCH for her and she was gonna have his fucking lunch.

[still_one]

30. Ironically those that wanted her to go and be replaced by Tim Ryan, have now thrown Ryan under the

bus because they believe that Tim Ryan is too be holding to corporations

[samnsara]

31. love her!

[NastyRiffraff]

32. Absolutely agree

I've always liked Nancy. She knows how to steer often fractious Dems.

[applegrove]

33. I don't think the people attacking our Democratic stars are democrats.

At least not when the pile on starts. They were going after Al Franken. Then he said he would not run. Then crickets on Al Franken. At here and other sites. It worked when they went after Hillary and pursed their lips when they said her name over and over again. And the most admired politician in the world became hated for half the country.

[lpbk2713]

35. NP has been the RWers lightning rod for years.

And it is surprising how many here are so willing to help them out.

[oasis]

39. ImWithHerToo!

[CakeGrrl]

40. "For once, I agree with the GOP" - watch for that kind of statement

or "The GOP has a point this time".

Some don't learn: There is NOTHING this GOP wants that is for the greater good.

And no matter how much some of them may "object" to Trump or his actions, they fall in line to make sure the GOP prevails.

They don't need help from Democrats.

[brer cat]

42. K&R