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Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:27 AM

Romney won't release his taxes because it will show that he committed a felony

They will show that he was a legal resident of Utah when he voted as a Massachusetts resident. All of the other possibilities will be politically damaging for a short period of time but they are nothing he can't overcome. The possibility of being shown as a person who committed voter fraud is a killer.

We will never see those returns.

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Reply Romney won't release his taxes because it will show that he committed a felony (Original post)
Stuckinthebush Jul 2012 OP
2pooped2pop Jul 2012 #1
Stuckinthebush Jul 2012 #3
2pooped2pop Jul 2012 #5
Stuckinthebush Jul 2012 #7
2pooped2pop Jul 2012 #8
mopinko Jul 2012 #9
KansDem Jul 2012 #2
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #4
Stuckinthebush Jul 2012 #6
closeupready Jul 2012 #10
Stuckinthebush Jul 2012 #11
deaniac21 Jul 2012 #12
Stuckinthebush Jul 2012 #13
deaniac21 Jul 2012 #21
tableturner Jul 2012 #14
Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #15
Phentex Jul 2012 #16
tableturner Jul 2012 #18
rufus dog Jul 2012 #17
KamaAina Jul 2012 #19
Stuckinthebush Jul 2012 #20

Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:51 AM

1. that's 3 possible felon counts

 

1) voter fraud
2) lying about residency to run as Gov.
3) lying to SEC about when he quit Bain

4) tax evasion?

Are those correct?

We should be able to get him put in prison for life. 3 strikes and all is good enough for the little people. 30 years mandatory.

Can't his taxes be looked at by IRS?
Can't they be ordered to be released by SEC?

Can't they be ordered to be released for the voter fraud?

Not released for the public mind you, but isn't there some authority that can easily look into them?

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:59 AM

3. My best bet is this...

1 - The tax returns indict him so he will never release them on his own.
2 - The Obama team KNOWS this and is giddy with joy over pushing him to release them
3- Sometime in September or October the returns will magically appear as a leak (not by the Obama team mind you)
4 - Romney will scream and kick that it was illegal to release them and that Obama was responsible, blah, blah
5 - The media will ignore this because the bigger issue will be that Romney is a felon.
6 - Obama wins the election.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:03 AM

5. I like the way you see things

 

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:05 AM

7. And the more I think about it...

We don't want those returns released until after the GOP convention. Romney needs to be the firm nominee first.

We want this issue to be at a slow boil until October.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:13 AM

8. absolutely

 

It came out a bit early but you gotta run with what you got. As long as the media keeps it on the front lines, we can only sit back and watch. lol

But I agree. I don't want a brokered convention. Whoever they throw in there would automatically increase the republican support for the election since Rmoney is not very popular to begin with. They would rally around a fart at this point.

a fart? McCain? Palin? lol

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:18 AM

9. i agree with that. i am quite nervous that they might

dump him at the convention. it'd be fun to watch, but they will nominate someone very slippery and not as stupid.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:57 AM

2. "The possibility of being shown as a person who committed voter fraud is a killer."

This can't be stated enough. The GOP is going all-out with voter suppression to compliment their GOP-owned voting machines. Their goal is a "permanent GOP majority" (a favorite Karl Rove quote).

Too many GOP states claim voter fraud is rampant, however, when pressed, only a handful of cases can be cited. Having its own presumptive nominee commit voter fraud would put the kibosh on this lie.

Then, it's on to the GOP-owned voting machines...

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:02 AM

4. "Never" is a long time in politics, my friend. An enterprising v. 2.0 of

 

Woodward and Bernstein (and Deep Throat?) may be in our future. One can always hope

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:03 AM

6. No, you are correct

I should have said, "Romney will never release them voluntarily". I do believe that they will be leaked eventually.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:20 AM

10. That's exactly what I've been thinking.

 

K&R

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Response to closeupready (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:26 AM

11. I think the odds are quite good

THat is the only reason he won't release them.

He can spin low tax rates (I used all legal means to reduce my tax burden. You would, too!).
He can spin multiple foreign investments (Blind trust! I invest in the world! This means I know more about the world economy than Obama!)
He can spin questionable write offs (The IRS agreed with me on these!)

He can't spin fraud.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:32 AM

12. The IRS is part of the Justice Department.

I would think that Eric Holder would check that out.

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Response to deaniac21 (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:27 PM

13. There is a political problem with Holder coming out with this

It has to be on the down low.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:52 PM

21. Not if he broke the law. It would be his duty.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:06 PM

14. No way anybody in the Obama camp leaks the returns....

It is against the law for someone to look at IRS returns for anything other than official IRS business. The GOP may leak the returns, then try to blame Obama, having all of its surrogates march in lock step on the news channels, attacking the Obama camp for breaking laws to access and release the returns.

I guarantee you that before this story line broke, and many times since then, there have been a multitude of memos to the Obama top staff reminding them that it is against the law for them to access the tax returns.

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Response to tableturner (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:11 PM

15. Precisely.

 

Also no way anyone in the McCain camp does, either...because it's a near-certainty there's a non-disclosure agreement in force, and that will be a legally-binding contract.

Now a "Bradley Manning" in either the McCain camp or the IRS? Well, that's another matter...

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Response to tableturner (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:11 PM

16. Well, it should be a perk of the oval office...



How hard would it be to find someone to leak from the IRS?

How do we know that Romney isn't making new ones? Who would be able to confirm?

Romney is the definition of a coward. Hell, even Newt the Pig showed his tax returns.


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Response to Phentex (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:25 PM

18. The Obama camp will not be attempting.....

......to get someone to leak the tax returns. An effort to get someone to commit an illegal act is in itself illegal.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:23 PM

17. I was thinking a bit about this and assuming Team Obama has the returns, where did they get them

The most logical conclusion is a leak from the McCain campaign.

But consider all of the other candidates against him, in 08 and 12, reportedly don't like him.

Was it the Newt pissed off about the barrage of negative ads?

Was is Ricky S. pissed off that the repubs nominated a flip/flopping liberal?

Rick P,... you wanna bet $10,000?

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:26 PM

19. They will not which you cannot prove so stop saying that!

 

I believe he resided in California (San Diego) during the time in question.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 06:10 PM

20. Good point!

I stand corrected

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