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Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:07 PM

in 2018 when we get control will we

completely investigate the 2016 election? I REALLY HOPE WE DON'T FORGET THE ASSHOLES THAT CAUSED ALL THIS BULLSHIT!!!

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Reply in 2018 when we get control will we (Original post)
bluestarone Sep 2017 OP
SHRED Sep 2017 #1
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #2
bluestarone Sep 2017 #4
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #8
kimbutgar Sep 2017 #3
SoCalDem Sep 2017 #5
bluestarone Sep 2017 #6
leftstreet Sep 2017 #9
customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #7
Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #11
customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #12
Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #13
Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #10

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:09 PM

1. First we need to win

 

Odds don't favor us.

We need to get out the vote!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:13 PM

2. Uhhhh, does the phrase

which mentions counting chickens before they're hatched mean anything to you?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:21 PM

4. does the phrased

positive thinking mean anything to you?

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:08 AM

8. Counting your chickens before they are hatched

is not an example of positive thinking. It's an example of delusional thinking.

And Democrats taking back control of anything is highly unlikely in 2018. That's just being realistic, althoughI do hope I'm wrong.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:14 PM

3. Make voting free and counted elections should be easier and accessible to all Americans

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:45 PM

5. we probably will not get control, and if we do...

our fearless leaders will do what they always do..

move on

let bygones be bygones

not "waste time" pursuing past offenses"

you know...what we always do..

we drop the ball...

do a "let's all be friends",

and wait for the stab in the back that always comes from our opponents..

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:54 PM

6. this is

exactly what i'm talking about TY

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:25 AM

9. +1

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:26 AM

7. If things go well in 2018

we won't get the control until 2019, so I have to ask you to reconsider your OP.

Second, I have a feeling that there will be greater polarization (yes, I really believe that's possible) in the Congress. Trump will finance primary campaigns against GOP'ers who have not bowed sufficiently to him, and some of those challengers will be successful, and some of them will be in districts that cannot elect a Democratic representative, at least not until after the 2020 Census.

Clearly, we will try to elect people who are dead set in opposing the Trump agenda, even more so than the Democratic members we have now. It will probably mean another two years of even more acrimonious deadlock, but that's what it takes to get through to the 2020 election, when we hopefully have a presidential candidate who can win a majority of Electoral College votes.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 07:08 AM

11. The governors races and legislatures are equally important.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 07:15 PM

12. True, but

as far as legislatures go, we are still stuck with whatever gerrymandering took place after the 2010 Census. I do hope that we'll have some pickups in 2018, as a number of states skew their elections for governor to not coincide with the presidential election years.

We're in for a tough time of political stagnation for quite some time, I'm afraid.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 07:39 AM

13. There is a gerrymander case at SCOTUS now. It includes a method for determining whether

a district is gerrymandered. Kennedy always said he would vote to end gerrymandering if there was a formula to determine if a district was gerrymandered...I think it could happen. We will know in June. In any case,gerrymanders don't last forever. And this one is showing signs of slipping in some areas. If we get governorships, we can stop them from continuing to gerrymander....we face another ten years if we don't. The census is coming in 20.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Sep 2, 2017, 07:06 AM

10. I hear this sort of thing all the time...I sincerely hope we win...I dream about it. I can almost

taste it. With a normal electorate, we would be looking at a wave election, but we are still gerrymandered. Thus I hope we can pull it out, but it is going to take all hands on deck to win. We have to get out their and work for 18 and fight. If we could get the Senate, it would be great. Now if we have a wave election, we might see the Democrats keep all seats and maybe gain a couple. Although as others have pointed out...the Senate is not in our favor. If we could manage the Senate though, we could stop anymore right wing appointments which would be a huge victory...and of course if we lose seats, we lose Obamacare.

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