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I'm using my phone so I can't do any links right now..but the DFW gas stations are running out of gas. Family, friends, and local social media are reporting no gas available in many stations, very long lines at the places that have gas. QT gas stations are either not going to be offering gas or if they do it will be rationed. They are very dependent on one of the closed refineries. Other stations, not just QT are running out.
This may be more than a Texas issue..if the gas can't make it to North TX, it sure as hell can't make it around the country.
Please keep this kicked if you find this a useful post and want others to see it..given it's the middle of the night it is likely to sink.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I do feel for the people of Dallas if there is indeed a gas shortage. I was there for a week last month and I never saw a city bus or other forms of public transportation. And it has got to be the most bike UNfriendly city I've ever been in. It is a fine example of Republican city planning.
blogslut
(37,997 posts)I managed to get where I needed to go, by bus, when I lived in Dallas for 8 years. As for the bike thing, yeah, that could be better. Then again, my brother in Dallas was able to bike to/fro home and work for 20 years without getting killed.
Just the same, a gas shortage in a city of 1,300,000 is more than just a matter of high prices.
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)This was very helpful when we were hit with Hurricanes Sandy and Irene here in the Northeast. And GasBuddy has thousands of members all over the US and Canada. Hope this helps:
HURRICANE SUPPORT AVAILABLE ON GASBUDDY
The long road to recovery from Hurricane Harvey will be challenging for Texas and those impacted by this devastating storm. GasBuddy would like to outline the tools we have available that could offer assistance as people work together on rescue operations. For those public service officers, emergency workers and volunteers, please stay safe as you continue to work under these unimaginable conditions.
Gas Tracker
tracker.gasbuddy.com
Our gas-availability tracking site continues to provide information on what gas station have power and fuel for those who need to refuel cars, boats and jet skis to aid rescue operations.
In our app, you can filter your search under Amenities by Has Fuel and Has Power to help locate stations that are operational. We ask that if you encounter a station with no fuel or no power, please edit the information in the app to assist others who are searching for gas.
http://business.gasbuddy.com/hurricane-support-available-on-gasbuddy/
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)That may become very useful in a lot of areas, depending on how this tragedy plays out. Let's hope it does not affect emergency service vehicles!
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)Even boats are going to need fuel since they're leading the rescue efforts!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)These times remind us of how horribly dependent we are on petroleum products.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)purchased after Hurricane Sandy and quickly used during the aftermath of an ice storm, both of which caused 5 day outages. It was great to have, but they do guzzle gasoline and depend on an ongoing supply. The supply depends on - passable roads and the goods to move down them, plus electricity to pump the gas once it gets to the station. Although we are a bit rural, we do have a convenience store with gas pumps that is frequented by both emergency vehicles and utility guys, so it does tend to stay open. You do what you can.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)to be able to afford a natural gas or propane powered generator. Installed cost is just too high for my (retired) budget. I'm dreamin', LOL.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Thank you for posting.
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)But there are millions of members all over the US and Canada that can be called on to provide information - they stepped up to the plate during Sandy and Irene (which hit my area) and they're stepping up again for Harvey.
Liberal In Texas
(13,542 posts)Thanks for posting....have to find another one and get some this morning for the vehicle I use for work.
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)I've found them to be a great resource! Good luck!
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I bought a hybrid Sonata with enough tank capacity to go about 500 miles or so between fillups. However, we chose this week to go to my lady's recently-sold condo in Florida to move stuff up to SC, and I've seen prices rise like crazy in the last few days. Hope we have enough to get her back to NY for work by Friday evening.
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)But now I go out of my way to post prices myself, since they do vary widely just in my area. I'm also in New York and though we have gas, it's gone up over 20-cents a gallon here in the past couple of days - and is still rising. SC usually has just about the best prices. The cool thing is that it encompasses the entire US and Canada. Good luck!
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)when we crossed over the border from Georgia to South Carolina on our way back, and got off of I-95 on to US-17, it blew my mind! The stations right off of the Interstate had prices around $2.72.9! Please recall that two days after the eclipse, I filled up for under two bucks a gallon. Good thing we bought gas in Georgia!
On the way back through SC on US-17, we did see a pretty good price between Charleston and Georgetown of $2.32.9 at a Kangaroo/BP. We talked about it for fifteen seconds, then circled back to that station to top off the tank. With my BP rewards card, I knocked a nickel off of that price, but with the gas gauge showing about 3/4 full, my lady figured we couldn't buy much gas. But, I used an old technique of rocking the car (by pumping on the back bumper of her SUV-we were hauling furniture) to "burp" the tank, and I was able to get another two gallons into it by pumping slowly, then re-burping a couple of more times.
We're driving to NY on Wednesday, so we wanted to have enough to get at least to Virginia, where the prices are lower than North Carolina, then we can make it all the way back to NY, and once there, I can stay for several days, and she can use my Sonata hybrid to go back and forth to work. Eventually, things will return to normal for the gasoline market, and the Labor Day holiday marks the end of the summer driving season.
Now, if only Irma will spin off harmlessly to the North Atlantic and colder waters that will dissipate its energy, we'll be set.
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)SC usually has the lowest or near the lowest prices in the country when I look at GasBuddy - and I found that to be true the last time I was there. But it's always more expensive near major highways and with this storm and the havoc it's caused, pipelines not operational, it's been impossible to predict.
And I've never heard of "burping" the tank. Years ago, with my Dad, I can remember "topping off" the tank after the pump lets you know that it's full. But I thought that wasn't advisable anymore and when I get gas I might let it get to the next dollar - which isn't much with the current prices - but I still worry about doing even that...
I'm in NE New York, almost as far from the Gulf Coast as you can get, but it's still been affecting gas prices here in a major way. I think I paid $2.33 a week ago, but it's slowly gone up all week. It's $2.79 today at the same station I got gas a week ago. The cheapest I saw it here today was $2.55, but I talked to the couple who run this neighborhood station/store and they said that they're changing it to $2.79 tomorrow - and are worried because they only have enough supply to last for about another week.
Prices to tend to go down when they switch to the "winter blend" in the next month, just as they go up temporarily when they switch to the "summer blend" (less polluting) in the spring, but with the limited supply, there's no telling when we'll get to what passes for "normal" again.
You're fortunate to have a hybrid, I should consider one for my next car. It sure makes sense for the environment and the future. I'm just glad to hear that you made it back safely and were able to find gas. And I sure share your hopes for Irma - things are tough enough as they are and it looks like it's going to take quite awhile to get through this crisis.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Don't "burp" the tank to overfill unless you're going to use that extra gasoline essentially immediately. If you get gas at a cool time of the day, it's condensed, and later on, in a hot gas tank, it will start to expand. At the very least, it's a waste, and at the very worst, it could leak and start a fire or explosion. In our case, we had another forty miles to go, so that used up a good amount of that excess.
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)As I said, I already worry about adding anymore gas after the handle clicks, telling me that it's full. I have an older car (Pontiac), so I usually get top tier gas and I don't let it get too low.
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)progressoid
(49,964 posts)Nothing like the gas hikes after Katrina though.
Hope they find a solution soon.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Nothing we can do, it's to be expected. I just hope people don't panic and gas station owners don't try to price gouge like they did when the pipeline ruptured last year at this time.
We'll gladly take our problems over Houston's.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)We can all try to conserve gasoline (or diesel) where practical. Cut down on unnecessary trips and take the pedal off the metal for a while!
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)I use my bike when I go to the grocery store (~1 mile away. Granted I'm limited to what I can buy as my basket only fits one reusable shopping bag).
I'm trying to work out commuting to my new job by train instead of car.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)For example, in my area we used to have small grocery stores, hardware stores, doctors, etc., close by, so most everything one needed was within walking/biking distance. Now, we have to drive many miles to get to the nearest big box stores, then park and walk 100 yards to pick up one item. Just occurred to me that as a man of 70 years, it would be extremely difficult and very dangerous for me to try to bike to my doctor's office, or even to a grocery.
I admire many areas in Europe where the transport systems are very efficient, and some are banning cars all together! Don't see that happening in most of the US of A until we're knocked-down starving-to-death forced to.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)We live out in the sticks so we try to consolidate all of our trips, we use one vehicle as much as possible and even though we have a truck we only use it when necessary.
DFW
(54,330 posts)Luckily, one of the guys in the house back in Dallas has a Tesla, and is not dependent on fossil fuel except to the extent that it affects the ability for power plants to generate electricity. He's going to be very popular if this persists.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
trof
(54,256 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Fortunately I was already near full and have a short commute, so I'm good for a week or two.
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)Spoke with family again today (I'm traveling for work so I'm not there now).
Family member's co-worker witnessed a driver PULL A GUN on someone who was believed to have cut in line at a station
Police are having to direct traffic at some stations
Not uncommon to pass stations with 15+ cars in line.
Using the Gasbuddy link provided by a DUer in this thread....my town of 25,000, north of Dallas, has NO gas at all...every station listed is in red with "no fuel". A FB posting from my neighborhood's FB page that said one station has pulled tarps over the tanks. They also posted a pic of a very long gas line from another station, saying the wait would be 30-60 minutes, I believe.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)I live in DFW and saw lines wrapped around street corners, waiting to get gas at QuikTrips and 7-11' s around where I live. People saw the tanker bringing gas to our local 7-11 and they flocked to it. I went several hours later to get me some nachos and chat with the attendant working inside and he said that they were sending tankers from Oklahoma. HOWEVER, talked to an older man at the pump and he said the railroad commissioner said there was millions of gallons in reserve here in Texas and that this "gas shortage" is hype to line some pockets. Taking advantage of the public during a crisis. It's crazy
Now with everyone panicking like it's the end of time, we really are seeing a gas shortage.
Liberal In Texas
(13,542 posts)And gas will start to be available after the weekend like normal.
It's like a run on the banks during the crash. Everyone thought, "God have to have gas." Even though they didn't need any with a 3/4 full tank. And sat in a long line to get it.
It'll settle down. Too bad it had to happen on a holiday weekend when people might want to drive someplace.
QT has been very smart shutting off half the stations so that the other half can continue to have gas. You can check the availability at their website updated daily or download an app to your smartphone that has real time availability.
https://www.quiktrip.com/gasoline
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)No signs of slowing down.
This is the type of thing I can handicap well. I'm good at situational influence. Two days before Harvey made landfall I filled up both cars at $2.16. Today I drove past the same station and the asking price was $2.47.
And that's the cheapest Top Tier nearby. Most stations are in the $2.55 to $2.69 range.
I have a driving trip at the end of the month so I hope the price threats are behind us, namely Irma and missing landfall.
Rhiannon12866
(205,084 posts)It's been climbing all week. It was in the $2.35 range a week ago - but it's been going up at about 10-cents a day all week. Most stations today were $2.69 or $2.79 for regular, premium was well over $3. I talked to the couple who run a local gas station/convenience store tonight and they were the cheapest today at $2.55 - but they're raising the price to $2.79 tomorrow and if they're still the cheapest, it doesn't bode well for the others...
LeftInTX
(25,217 posts)I was checking Gas Buddy and it showed the wait time at my local HEB down to "no wait". I get there and it was 90 minutes. I don't think the Oklahoma gas that Abbott is touting is going to make it down this far. Hopefully by next weekend, this will be better. I gassed up last Friday, so I should be good for a week, if I conserve.