Can the US Courts stop this ban on Transexuals in the military?

[lunatica]

That he did this makes me feel like throwing up. What possible reason does he have to do this? Didn't the Supreme Court just find that ALL people have equal rights? This act shouldn't be legal and must be a violation of our Constitution.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. While there are still adults on the courts, adults who honor the constitution and our laws

i suppose it is possible.

Allowing the russians to steal the election by allowing the nazi to get as close to winning as he did, permanently changed the courts for all our lifetimes so that gay rights and gay marriage will be gone, reproductive rights including birth control access will be gone, ande voting rights will exist for white christian males only.

This is what is going to happen, for sure. done deal.

I havent even started on the rights minorities will lose on housing, employment, etc. Or the rights working people will lose.

Nothing you count on now will exist, nothing. It is all gone.

But surely as bad as all that is it is better than having someone who ...oops, i keep forgetting I cant go there

[lunatica]

2. I certainly hope not

Supposedly there are more of us than there are of them. I pray there are and I'm an Atheist.

[riversedge]

3. We're filing on Monday. #TransMilitaryBan--and HOW to donate to them............

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For everyone asking how to donate to support our #transmilitaryban lawsuit, go to http://aclu.org/donate .

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[lunatica]

4. Good! and thanks for posting this

I have a standing monthly donation to the ACLU. I started it because of Trump. I hope the States' Circuit Courts fight back too.

[riversedge]

10. Thank you. I have a small monthly take out also. Feels good to be doing

something.

[democratisphere]

5. drumpf loves being cruel at targeted groups to please his deplorable followers.

Hopefully he will be gone soon.

[lunatica]

6. The deplorables love being cruel too

It's a deep streak in them. And it's probably the only reason they love him for it.

[Lee-Lee]

7. Most likely no.

Where this issue stands out different from other issues like race or sexual preference is that virtually every transgendered person has requirements for specific medical care- hormone therapy, hormone level monitoring, mental health care, etc all go along with transitioning.

The military pretty much has broad discretion to determine what medical conditions it will and will not take, and what they will and will not retain you with once you are in. You can't enlist if your diabetic and they are very, very, very unlikely to keep you in if you develop it because they can't be assured you can get your meds or the proper diet in a deployed environment. Same goes for loads of other conditions requiring specific care. Hell, sleep apnea not will bar you from enlisting and get you medically separated because they can't ensure you will have a CPAP or power to run it deployed.

And while a small number of people who are transgendered don't need any hormones, the military can still do a blanket ban on the condition if they say a high enough percentage of people with it are ineligible so it's not efficient to review every person case by case.

On those grounds, as long as they apply the medical readiness standards no stricter than they do for diabetes or sleep apnea or any other medical condition the chances of defeating it in court are pretty much none.

[Lurks Often]

8. Unlikely

The military has a great deal of discretion on who is allowed to serve:

Here is a list of medical conditions the military can deny a person entrance into the military: http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html High blood pressure, diabetes, hemorrhoids and other relatively minor issues that would not be an issue in most civilian jobs are dis-qualifiers.

Here is another link of dis-qualifiers for military service, there are the obvious ones such as for a criminal background, but other reasons also include the number and placement of tattoos: http://army.com/info/usa/disqualifiers

I'm sure that the final court ruling will be far more wordy, but it will boil down to: the military does not have to allow anyone, regardless of gender, gender identity or sexual preference to enlist if that person is not deployable due to an existing medical condition or any condition that would require regular medical care, including pharmaceutical care if they were to be deployed.

As to the why, it seems to go back to argument over the defense bill and funding to pay for the re-assignment surgery, although this did not seem to get much attention: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/344014-house-avoids-transgender-military-fight-in-spending-package

[Demsrule86]

9. He is the commander in chief. I doubt anyone can stop him...it was a dark day

when Trump was elected...a giant fuck you to any who helped put this maniac in the White House.