Trump boasted there were 15,000 people at his rally. Phoenix Fire Department said 4,169

[highplainsdem]

out of a capacity of 4,200 for the event space. No one had been turned away at the door.

Phoenix police have estimated there were at least 5,000 protesters outside.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/08/23/how-many-people-downtown-phoenix-donald-trump-rally-protests/594732001/

[Hieronymus]

1. Typical BS from Trump.

[Angry Dragon]

2. at this point what is just one more lie

[bearsfootball516]

3. 4,169???

In a city with a population of 1.6 million, in a state that went red?

That is absolutely stunning.

[Flaleftist]

12. Or you can use the metropolitan population number of 4.5 million.

Then consider some people traveled a long way, even out of state to see him and his numbers look even worse.

[former9thward]

14. The problem is you can use that same logic about any political rally.

Nobody looks good when you do that.

[former9thward]

16. 4169 was from a 2015 rally..

[bearsfootball516]

22. You are correct

And a politifact check confirmed it. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/22/fact-checking-president-donald-trumps-campaign-ral/

Thread needs to be deleted.

[33taw]

4. I was hoping for 10,000 protesters. But, I am happy with 5000

[liberal N proud]

5. trump couldn't see all the people, he is blind from looking at the eclipse

[Dem2]

6. So his exaggeration factor is 3x

I grew up with all kinds of duplicitous sleazebags and their multiplication factors were usually between 2 and 4.

This guy is just a run-of-the-mill con artist

[BigmanPigman]

7. I guess that when they taught him at his Ivy League college

for business he missed the class on estimates. So sad!

[thinkingagain]

8. He probably saw the 15,000 because

When he looked up at the eclipse it caused him to get triple vision....
Oh wait he's always sees more than what's really there so that doesn't work
He's just such a slime bucket

[calimary]

13. Welcome to DU, thinkingagain!

He probably couldn't tell whether there was eye damage or not because he couldn't see his own inaugural crowd correctly, either. Sometimes he can't see the difference between Melania and Ivanka. So it's a condition of which he's evidently suffered for a long time now.

[thinkingagain]

32. Thank you

I have been here for a short bit of time but hardly post
I guess I'm more the silent type

[bullwinkle428]

9. a.k.a. "Inauguration math".

[Warpy]

10. I keep telling you, if you want to counter protest, ditch the signs and stop the yelling

He won't read the signs and he can't hear the yelling so you're all seen as his fans who couldn't get in. Every time.

Boo. Hiss. Turn your backs. Those are the only things that will get through the narcissist filter.

Sheesh.

[TeamPooka]

24. Because even if there are 10,000 people Outside

Because even if there are 10,000 people outside he says there are no protesters so you need to be in the room where he can see and hear you when you insult him if they only will bring this little man down

[ProudLib72]

11. tRump has earned his PhD!!

Last year he earned his B.S.
Shortly after inauguration, he earned his M.S. (more of the same)
And he has finally earned his PhD (piled higher and deeper)

That's the way tRump University works.

[former9thward]

15. The 4169 number was from 2015.

Please read your own link. The capacity of the event yesterday was 19,000. At some point in the rally people were turned away. Again from your own link...

[SCantiGOP]

19. Story pretty clear

Post is wrong. Needs to be taken down.

[pangaia]

21. What then were those pic of just a few hundred?

[spanone]

17. no, trump lied about the number of people at his rally.

[uppityperson]

18. Unrec for inaccuracy, 4169 was not this event. Please consider correcting. Thanks

[SunSeeker]

23. Republicans never could do math.

[C Moon]

25. "Fake fire department!"

[Honeycombe8]

26. You'd think he'd have learned his lesson. nt

[LS_Editor]

27. Liar McLiarliar lied?!

[VermontKevin]

28. So that means his 9 inch dick is:

Well, you all do the proportional math.

[Beacool]

29. Trump always boasts, but Trump always lies.

Other than his staunch supporters, who else believes him?

[left-of-center2012]

30. Trump's count has to be the correct count

Didn't he say in the campaign:

"I will never lie to you"

[ornotna]

31. 4,169 is from 2015

But there is this.

Phoenix police spokesman Sgt. Jonathan Howard said the number of demonstrators likely was more than 5,000.

"I think there were more outside, but we have no official number to offer," he said in an email Wednesday afternoon.