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kpete

(71,959 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:56 PM Dec 2011

Moore: Do something-anything-but don't remain silent- Not now-This is the moment-It won't come again

Michael Moore
75 Years Ago Today, the First Occupy

..............

Do something, anything, but don't remain silent. Not now. This is the moment. It won't come again.

75 years ago today, in Flint, Michigan, the people said they'd had enough and occupied the factories until they won. What is stopping us now? The rich have one plan: bleed everyone dry. Can anyone, in good conscience, be a bystander to this?

My uncle wasn't, and because of what he and others did, I got to grow up without having to worry about a roof over my head or medical bills or a decent life. And all that was provided by my dad who built spark plugs on a GM assembly line.

Let's each of us double our efforts to raise a ruckus, Occupy Everywhere, and get creative as we throw a major nonviolent wrench into this system of Greed. Let's make the politicians running for office in 2012 quake in their boots if they refuse to tax the rich, regulate Wall Street and do whatever we the people tell them to do.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/occupy-everywhere_b_1176672.html?ref=yahoo&ir=Yahoo

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Moore: Do something-anything-but don't remain silent- Not now-This is the moment-It won't come again (Original Post) kpete Dec 2011 OP
quit buying their crap getdown Dec 2011 #1
Agree. This is important in more than one way. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #3
I agree, but we need to start discussing actual strategies and tactics. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #2
At least an Argument person to person with orpupilofnature57 Dec 2011 #4
agreed getdown Dec 2011 #5
I agree that appealing to our representatives seems fruitless. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #6
ab so LUTE ly getdown Dec 2011 #7
We need a concerted organized method to cut funding those who make things worse. Like glinda Dec 2011 #8
well that exists, right? getdown Dec 2011 #9
Yes. Online. But wish it were more common knowledge. glinda Jan 2012 #19
good idea. getdown Jan 2012 #20
Yep. And never mind the 'best'. We need a long list of 'good enough, pick any' tactics. saras Jan 2012 #12
"corruption" tooeyeten Jan 2012 #15
There is no way to get corruption out of the system without purging the current crop of politicians. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #22
k/r Solly Mack Jan 2012 #10
K&R even if you didn't read the memo. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #11
Yawn!! 1stlady Jan 2012 #13
It's so sad that you can't see some of the great contributions Moore has made. PA Democrat Jan 2012 #14
agree with you tooeyeten Jan 2012 #16
Yawn HangOnKids Jan 2012 #21
Occupy: A DIY Revolution pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #17
to read later snagglepuss Jan 2012 #18
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
2. I agree, but we need to start discussing actual strategies and tactics.
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:13 PM
Dec 2011

I feel the most important goal is to get corruption out of the political system. Until that's done, everything else will be futile.
But that's my opinion. What ever you think is the most important issue, must be broadcast to the public. The media is our enemy and we need to figure out how to get our messages out in spite of them. Call representatives, email, print flyers and spread them around public places. Get your friends and family on board. Join DFA, moveon or PDA.

We must get the message out.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
4. At least an Argument person to person with
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:19 PM
Dec 2011

anyone that denies the fact ,pointing out being a racist , Xenophobe is handing Our country over to the Meglomaniacs of our planet.

 

getdown

(525 posts)
5. agreed
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:19 PM
Dec 2011

however appeals to Congress are compromised b/c they are.

Get the 1%ers out of Congress. Get the 5%ers out of Congress. Get the 11%ers out of Congress.

And take away their effin HEALTHCARE.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. I agree that appealing to our representatives seems fruitless.
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 05:11 PM
Dec 2011

But I think it is a tool and we need to use it. Use everything.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
8. We need a concerted organized method to cut funding those who make things worse. Like
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 09:46 PM
Dec 2011

getting the word out on who not to buy from, or what not to buy or what organization is actually what in it's intentions and on and on.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
12. Yep. And never mind the 'best'. We need a long list of 'good enough, pick any' tactics.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 04:48 AM
Jan 2012

I suggest 'quit buying stuff' all the time. One reason is that it is one way, however indirect, to get corruption out of the political system. If Wal-Mart doesn't have the money to spend on politics, they won't spend it on right-wingers. Yes, this is a long-term hope, but so was ending slavery, or building the internet.

Surely there are more direct, more effective ways of ending corruption. Running for office is an obvious one, but not for everyone. Working for the local party is another, working with voting rights groups is another, exposing individual corrupt politicians and acts is another, and so on.

The internal problem for us is, of course, that we don't agree on directions and goals, so many tactics are great for some but problematic for others. I always thought that the purpose of the parties was to manage this process, to organize the tradeoffs necessary to get the various parts of a plan implemented.

The external problem for us is that our opponents at this time want to destroy everything social - to wipe our culture from the planet, and from the minds of our children - and to steal everything of economic value. Because of this, there is very little that we can offer them to assist in their 'plan' that seems like a reasonable compromise to the democratic population. NOTHING they want benefits any of us in the long run, and the short-term benefit is either that they destroy someone else instead of us, or they pay us some small portion of the booty for betraying a large number of ourselves.

Personally I think the party needs an explicitly stated policy of "We need to STOP these monsters, and so will oppose them at EVERY turn. Once they are defeated, we can then again consider instances where we may agree with particular actions, even if for different purposes, but until then we are at war and cannot afford to indulge them."

tooeyeten

(1,074 posts)
15. "corruption"
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jan 2012

in the political system, is the money, "the greed" as MM points out. Citizens United is the enemy of full disclosure and America, time to turn Citizens United on their GOP head.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
22. There is no way to get corruption out of the system without purging the current crop of politicians.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jan 2012

To say otherwise is like saying we're going to kick heroin while still hanging out with our junkie friends. It'll never work.

Our elected representatives care not a whit about us as people. To them we are merely votes. Their search for the next vote total begins on inauguration day and is financed by whatever corporation (or industry for that matter) they make the best promises to.

Personally I can't think of a single one of the 535 people who run our lives I'd like to see remain in office. Not one. No, I do not wish for republican rule, but neither do I think Dems are really on our side deep in their hearts.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
11. K&R even if you didn't read the memo.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jan 2012

Moore complained about something Obama did. So we can't do any thing he suggests. If we do, the haters win.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
14. It's so sad that you can't see some of the great contributions Moore has made.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jan 2012
Sicko raised the awareness of many people about the deplorable state of health care in our country. Before the movie came out the main stream media NEVER covered the inhumane, immoral and greedy behavior of the health insurance industry.

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