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Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:36 AM

NYTimes: How to Make Fun of Nazis

The New York Times
The Opinion Pages

How to Make Fun of Nazis
By MOISES VELASQUEZ-MANOFF
AUG. 17, 2017

For decades, Wunsiedel, a German town near the Czech border, has struggled with a parade of unwanted visitors. It was the original burial place of one of Adolf Hitler’s deputies, a man named Rudolf Hess. And every year, to residents’ chagrin, neo-Nazis marched to his grave site. The town had staged counterdemonstrations to dissuade these pilgrims. In 2011 it had exhumed Hess’s body and even removed his grave stone. But undeterred, the neo-Nazis returned. So in 2014, the town tried a different tactic: humorous subversion.

The campaign, called Rechts Gegen Rechts — the Right Against the Right — turned the march into Germany’s “most involuntary walkathon.” For every meter the neo-Nazis marched, local residents and businesses pledged to donate 10 euros (then equivalent to about $12.50) to a program that helps people leave right-wing extremist groups, called EXIT Deutschland.

They turned the march into a mock sporting event. Someone stenciled onto the street “start,” a halfway mark and a finish line, as if it were a race. Colorful signs with silly slogans festooned the route. “If only the Führer knew!” read one. “Mein Mampf!” (my munch) read another that hung over a table of bananas. A sign at the end of the route thanked the marchers for their contribution to the anti-Nazi cause — €10,000 (close to $12,000). And someone showered the marchers with rainbow confetti at the finish line.

The approach has spread to several other German towns and one in Sweden (where it was billed as Nazis Against Nazis).

This week, following the violence in Charlottesville, Va., Wunsiedel has come back into the news. Experts in nonviolent protest say it could serve as a model for Americans alarmed by the resurgent white supremacist movement who are looking for an effective way to respond (and who might otherwise be tempted to meet violence with violence).


We've got to be able to come up with something equivalent. Let's work to turn every hate group rally into a pledge drive for the Southern Poverty Law Center (other suggestions welcome). Call on sane people to contribute X dollars to anti-hate cause for every every hateful person who shows up at the rally. Put up a big fund raising thermometer. Cheers and thanks to the assholes who show up for their part in raising money for such a wonderful cause.




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Reply NYTimes: How to Make Fun of Nazis (Original post)
pat_k Aug 2017 OP
angstlessk Aug 2017 #1
pat_k Aug 2017 #3
Danascot Aug 2017 #14
mitch96 Aug 2017 #18
pat_k Aug 2017 #21
pat_k Aug 2017 #20
canetoad Aug 2017 #2
SWBTATTReg Aug 2017 #4
zentrum Aug 2017 #5
DoBotherMe Aug 2017 #6
Hekate Aug 2017 #7
DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #8
pat_k Aug 2017 #23
AJT Aug 2017 #9
greeny2323 Aug 2017 #10
BowlLikeAChicken Aug 2017 #11
zanana1 Aug 2017 #13
doodsaq Aug 2017 #12
mcar Aug 2017 #15
flt rsk Aug 2017 #16
wryter2000 Aug 2017 #17
Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #19
pat_k Aug 2017 #22
Liberty Belle Aug 2017 #24
pat_k Aug 2017 #25
DinahMoeHum Aug 2017 #26
pat_k Aug 2017 #27

Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:45 AM

1. Some markers on a permitted march should show signs...

'KKK, thanks for funding the Black College Fund' For every foot you walked we have donated ??? dollars.

"Nazi's, thanks for the Jewish Anti Defamation League contribution...for every foot you walked we received ??? dollars.

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Response to angstlessk (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:21 AM

3. Yep!

If a right-wingnut event is a march, do the same thing as the town of Wunsiedel did (i.e., Paint start and finish lines. Confetti and thanks to the finishers. Jeering signs.) If it is a rally, not a march, instead of money per foot, it can be money per person who shows up. The greater their turnout, the more they work against themselves.

I think keeping it playful is what makes this tactic effective. Certainly, violent reactionaries are a serious danger. Their violence, and the ideology they promote, costs lives. Yes, we must protect ourselves and work against them. But when directly confronting them, we need to stop meeting their anger and hate with anger and hate. When we do that we play into their "look how we are victimized" recruitment rhetoric. When meeting "face-to-face," better to laugh in their faces, than to puff up their sense of self-importance by showing them anger and fear.

I can't think of a more effective way to derail them than to turn their efforts to band together in public as a show of strength into big, fat, extremely visible, fund raisers for the forces that oppose them. What seems key is to make a direct and visible connection between what they are doing -- the number of feet walked in a march, or the number of people who show up an event -- and the dollars raised against them. There are many worthy organizations out there, but it would be best to make each right-wing nut event a pledge drive for just one of them so the tally of dollars raised isn't "diluted." Different wingnut events, different orgs, sure. But for a given event, pick one to raise money for.

My two cents. YMMV.

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Response to pat_k (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 08:55 AM

14. In Boston, a novel fund-raising model to combat Saturdays free speech rally


A local nonprofit has deployed a fund-raising tactic used to counter neo-Nazi groups in Germany ahead of Saturday’s controversial “Boston Free Speech” rally on the Common.

Union Capital Boston, a Jamaica Plain-based charity that fosters community engagement and advocates for equality, has launched an initiative to raise money for groups like Black Lives Matter and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

People can pledge a certain amount of money per rally attendee.

The more people who attend the free speech rally, the more money will be raised for groups that stand in opposition to the rally.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/08/17/boston-novel-fund-raising-model-combat-saturday-free-speech-rally/c2wdqrKqH7EgO5LkVB7JML/story.html

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Response to Danascot (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:18 PM

18. "People can pledge a certain amount of money per rally attendee. "

That would be neat.. How about taking a picture of a Nazi Rally attendee and pledge using that pic as a donation sponsor.. "We pledge $100 to XYZ in honor of this gentleman"...
The guy could never show his face on Stormtrooper again!!!
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 07:19 PM

21. I like it!

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Response to Danascot (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:25 PM

20. Wonderful to see!

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:58 AM

2. Great article

Read it the other day and was amused and inspired by the town's lateral thinking.

K&R

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:32 AM

4. I think this is a great concept, raise $ for every hate step you make!

Wonderful!!!

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:36 AM

5. Brilliant.

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:59 AM

6. Our Nazis march with guns

They are so dangerous I really don't know how we counter protest without the fear of death or the likelihood of a melee. It's a conundrum for us here in the US.

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 03:33 AM

7. I like this. We've done it with Planned Parenthood to good effect.

Worth a try.

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 04:45 AM

8. Buy them tickets to "The Producers"

nt

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 20, 2017, 12:05 AM

23. Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi party!

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 07:34 AM

9. Just sit down. Bring a snack and mocking signs, then sit down and watch.

A 60s sit in(or out). You can't be violent sitting down, you do have to have self control. Reacting with anger and aggression just feeds their fire.

I think just not showing up at all is a great idea, but mocking them is a good alternative.

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 07:36 AM

10. Sousaphone

 

I liked the guy who showed up with a sousaphone at a Nazi rally in South Carolina.

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 08:20 AM

11. How about a big sign

right at the beginning of the march with a picture of a doctor that says

A message from the Proctological Society of America Please NAZI's you're giving assholes a bad reputation .

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Response to BowlLikeAChicken (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 08:48 AM

13. Excellent! nt

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 08:47 AM

12. Much more effective than antifa tactics

That's how you counterprotest. Ridicule them until they shrink into a tiny ball of irrelevance.

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 09:12 AM

15. This is a brilliant idea

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 11:50 AM

16. Trick or treat

I think a group dressed in Halloween costumes and holding bags with trick or treat signs, would be appropriate.

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:01 PM

17. I'd continue

And the SPLC would be the perfect beneficiary

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Response to pat_k (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:22 PM

19. That, or bring in the tubas

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 07:47 PM

22. Some requests:

Need some additional brass, but these would be my requested "hate-rally" accompaniments.





These guys are dressed the part!





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Response to pat_k (Reply #22)

Sun Aug 20, 2017, 01:17 AM

24. A bagpipe band would be good, too!

And maybe some loud rap music, too.

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Response to pat_k (Reply #22)

Sun Aug 20, 2017, 06:35 PM

26. Laurel and Hardy theme song: Dance of the Cuckoos

Imagine sousaphones and tubas playing this!



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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #26)

Sun Aug 20, 2017, 07:31 PM

27. Very good!

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