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Beringia

(4,350 posts)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 04:52 PM Aug 2017

William Rivers Pitt: Coward-in-Chief: Trump Wilts in the Face of Fascist Terrorism

Here is the car, stopped along Monticello Avenue in Charlottesville, Virginia. It has clearly been involved in a high-speed incident. Video shows this same car -- allegedly driven by one James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio -- plowing into a crowd of peaceful anti-fascist protesters at high speed. When it reversed to escape, the damaged fender swung wide, and a shoe clearly bounced out of the grille. The roar of the engine fades, leaving in its wake screams and curses.

According to everything we have heard from the federal government about vehicles being used as weapons worldwide, everything we have heard from the White House and Homeland Security on the issue, everything we have heard in the news media after London and Paris, this was an ISIS-style terrorist attack deliberately perpetrated against a crowd of innocent people to lethal effect.

This was terrorism. By the book. Someone should probably tell the president. He doesn't seem to get it.

The short version: A well-organized pack of white supremacists, Nazis, Klan members and generalized fascists tried to hold a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, ostensibly to protest the removal of a monument to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. Large numbers showed up, greeted not only by law enforcement and angry locals, but by a sizeable contingent of anti-fascist activists who came prepared to shout them down.

full article
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/41604-coward-in-chief-trump-wilts-in-the-face-of-fascist-terrorism

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William Rivers Pitt: Coward-in-Chief: Trump Wilts in the Face of Fascist Terrorism (Original Post) Beringia Aug 2017 OP
any fool could have told you that Trump would be like this dsc Aug 2017 #1
WELP. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #3
New thread title: COWARDLY WRITER WRITES ABOUT COWARD-IN-CHIEF! Foamfollower Aug 2017 #5
Bazinga! George II Aug 2017 #28
Winner! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #30
.... Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #50
Daaaaaaamn! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #60
Perfect graphic for that post Autumn Aug 2017 #218
Now this is worth rec'ing. Amimnoch Aug 2017 #83
The only thing I'd add would be "bad" between cowardly and writer. betsuni Aug 2017 #84
Truth!!!! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #92
. nini Aug 2017 #113
Ding ding ding. Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #136
Never ever donheld Aug 2017 #485
It will make me laugh my ass off when he turns on his fan club. Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #511
How about an apology? Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #516
Saw this post removed and was surprised, great to see it back! betsuni Aug 2017 #212
Yes! NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #215
Seems like a more appropriate title lunasun Aug 2017 #255
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #260
Very courageous of them to attack a DUer who can't defend himself isn't it? TastyTaters Aug 2017 #263
It's how they roll. n/t QC Aug 2017 #273
The names change, their hate and nastiness remains the same. Autumn Aug 2017 #306
If it makes you feel better, he was indefensible when he was on DU, too. Orrex Aug 2017 #276
Wait, WHAT? He called Obama a used car salesman? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #428
If memory serves... Orrex Aug 2017 #435
Here are the Jamaal510 Aug 2017 #566
Why is the link to his garbage still up here? Surely it was sent to jury, you know what that tells Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #567
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #569
He is no longer a DUer, nice try. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #282
He's FFR. Will won't create a sock to post here at DU. You being a new sign up from last month, Autumn Aug 2017 #316
Well. Looks like he posted downthread, but you missed it. nt R B Garr Aug 2017 #317
One post? Autumn Aug 2017 #318
Well. There goes your theory. R B Garr Aug 2017 #319
Because you say so? I remember a former poster, now FFR who was very racist. It was amazing how Autumn Aug 2017 #326
It still blows your theory. You're just making exceptions now typical of the R B Garr Aug 2017 #328
Do you have a screen cap of the post by Will? Pardon me if I don't take your word. Autumn Aug 2017 #329
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #330
He posted to stick up for himself in a thread attacking him. He disn't post his articles Autumn Aug 2017 #334
I don't see any evidence he posted. Nyuk nyuk Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #341
A screen cap would do it. Autumn Aug 2017 #342
Uh huh R B Garr Aug 2017 #359
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Aug 2017 #331
Do you have screen caps? Of the mysterious person who was supposedly racist? nt R B Garr Aug 2017 #357
I'm done with this discussion since a MIRT member posted the MIRT message about the banned poster Autumn Aug 2017 #397
Your request for "screen caps", along with another member joining in with R B Garr Aug 2017 #399
I'm not on his FB and you were the one hinting that it was Will. You want screen caps of your Autumn Aug 2017 #401
Then why would I post something that you admit you are unwilling to post? R B Garr Aug 2017 #402
I got on FB, since he is public I saw Will ask if anyone who could post on DU would give his Autumn Aug 2017 #410
You are contradicting yourself again. You acknowledge downthread that you know R B Garr Aug 2017 #411
You ignore the part where he asked if anyone still on DU could post it. Have a nice day. nt Autumn Aug 2017 #424
lol, obviously he asked if someone could post it, which they did. R B Garr Aug 2017 #441
I know who you refer to and she is good people...one could consider what happened to her as unfair. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #423
Skinner said, it doesn't take a lot to not get banned or flagged. Just be civil. Have a nice day. n Autumn Aug 2017 #425
Calling her a racist is certainly not civil or fair. R B Garr Aug 2017 #443
Like Will, that person is not a member here, that tidbit is posted all over in this thread . nt Autumn Aug 2017 #446
That's weird it was linked here, then. Flamebait? R B Garr Aug 2017 #447
Will is a known writer,articles by writers are posted here all the time. One of the features of DU. Autumn Aug 2017 #450
Aren't there TOS rules, though? Support Democrats. R B Garr Aug 2017 #452
I read his work at Truthout. He seems to support the Democratic party and it's values. Autumn Aug 2017 #455
But he made a stand here against the Democrat on R B Garr Aug 2017 #458
In a blue state a missed vote doesn't change the fact that Hillary won the election by over Autumn Aug 2017 #462
Someone already pointed out that New Hampshire went to Bush in 2000, R B Garr Aug 2017 #464
I have no interest in discussing any past election or any voters and the choice they made. Autumn Aug 2017 #466
Trump sucked before Nov. 8th, as well. He was an obvious con man. R B Garr Aug 2017 #468
No, Trump and his campaign brought us Trump. YMMV but that's my opinion, I don't do hate. Autumn Aug 2017 #470
Russian hacking is also real. Trump is under FBI investigation. R B Garr Aug 2017 #472
Hillary is history, get over it... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #550
You've got to be kidding. Get over what?? Trump being president? R B Garr Aug 2017 #551
I'm just saying, as a party we need to get over Hillary's loss and move on... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #552
On the other hand 2020 might be her year. ucrdem Aug 2017 #553
"Coming down hard on her" is why we lost. Too much divisiveness for a prolonged R B Garr Aug 2017 #554
A lot of people voted for Trump out of protest, even though they suspected he wouldn't be good... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #555
At least you admit the strategy didn't care that a Republican R B Garr Aug 2017 #557
I'm not talking about a "far left" strategy in this case... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #560
I figured this was just another divisive exercise to cap on "Hillary supporters" R B Garr Aug 2017 #561
Anti-Hillary rhetoric is no longer relevant as we look to the future... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #562
Well, when Democrats are maligned as corrupt and R B Garr Aug 2017 #563
I'm not defending whatever it was that William Pitt said that got him booted... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #564
And he used his 'writing' to attack the Democratic nominee..what a guy. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #505
Or not admit who you voted for in the GE. n/t seaglass Aug 2017 #503
I smell Hillary hate in this thread, real stanky too. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #429
I know exactly what you mean. R B Garr Aug 2017 #445
Funny thing is if you ask them why they so dislike her, what her Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #451
Yes, and that's why the Russian propaganda machines had such easy pickings. R B Garr Aug 2017 #456
Something Hillary said in 1993 will be taken out of context and repeated over and over betsuni Aug 2017 #465
Certainly the most qualified n/t jaysunb Aug 2017 #556
Autumn! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #481
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #378
+100 mahina Aug 2017 #388
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #277
Lol MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #278
How mature... WoonTars Aug 2017 #293
Perhaps. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #294
LOL! Squinch Aug 2017 #340
Another woman who ALWAYS supported DUers Generic Other Aug 2017 #356
Yup and worked to bring Obama down Egnever Aug 2017 #6
Obama, the used car salesman? Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #16
That's only the second half of it, the complete comment was "piece of shit used car salesman". George II Aug 2017 #29
Dear god, I bet the preson who said that isnt fit to wipe Obama's ass anymore Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #430
Don't forget his Trojan Horse article... sheshe2 Aug 2017 #33
The point is very few in the media spoke out against Trump Generic Other Aug 2017 #39
the fact the others misbehaved as badly as he did doesn't make it OK dsc Aug 2017 #43
DSC we have been arguing on DU since its inception Generic Other Aug 2017 #53
I think if people want to discredit Pitt or anyone defacto7 Aug 2017 #64
I am the last person to act all prim and proper about civility Generic Other Aug 2017 #75
I hope I live up to the same ideal. Not always easy. defacto7 Aug 2017 #76
Everyone didn't vote for HRC. There are some "returners" here, some in this very thread, Squinch Aug 2017 #344
I said I would NEVER vote for her and yet I did Generic Other Aug 2017 #360
And some here are on other sites saying they did not vote for her. Squinch Aug 2017 #363
She won and Russians stole it Generic Other Aug 2017 #366
He threatened to kill a DUer, he was disgusting about Obama, he vowed not to vote for Hillary, he Squinch Aug 2017 #373
Drama Queen? Generic Other Aug 2017 #383
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with my post. Squinch Aug 2017 #385
People do not respond well to having their mothers insulted Generic Other Aug 2017 #386
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #412
Again, nothing to do with my post. Squinch Aug 2017 #414
then they should be KICKED THE HELL OFF of this website Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #432
Any fool would have known that. longship Aug 2017 #91
The man who wrote this has no right to complain as he refused to vote for Hillary! Foamfollower Aug 2017 #2
... and all who admire him or defend him or excuse him or validate him or flatter him. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #23
Fuckin' A Rights! Foamfollower Aug 2017 #26
"...and all who admire him or defend him or excuse him or validate him or flatter him". Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #95
ABsolutely, by the way they are very busy right now attacking Kamala Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #434
Finally, someone said it. aikoaiko Aug 2017 #492
I don't get it? JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #512
It's always best to... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #518
Ohhh! JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #519
I fixed it. It's a image related to The Purge horror movies. aikoaiko Aug 2017 #525
Pitt purged himself. R B Garr Aug 2017 #534
You misread my post and the post it is commenting upon. It's about purging other DUers. aikoaiko Aug 2017 #536
No I didn't misread it. R B Garr Aug 2017 #537
Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair! H2O Man Aug 2017 #232
Bwahahahahahahahaha! countryjake Aug 2017 #235
That is not true.... FarPoint Aug 2017 #291
Remember when he called Obama a Piece of shit used car salesman? Adrahil Aug 2017 #333
This message was self-deleted by its author donheld Aug 2017 #337
He is proof...took me three minutes on Google. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #339
Ah, that's just used car salesman Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #346
Google it...you will see it when you click on it ...it was self deleted but did say it clearly. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #400
Here you go! MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #348
See....it was a brief rant of frustration. FarPoint Aug 2017 #409
A brief rant of frustration? mcar Aug 2017 #416
Brief rant? How long does it take to briefly turn a Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #436
Actually no I don't... FarPoint Aug 2017 #349
He did. See above. I would not have asserted it otherwise. Adrahil Aug 2017 #367
Far point, are you so sure? We now know that social media was and is Hortensis Aug 2017 #420
I know Will Pitt... FarPoint Aug 2017 #442
You don't even know him... FarPoint Aug 2017 #303
Thank you for sayin so Generic Other Aug 2017 #368
I interacted with him in the "political arena." I don't think any poster here should feel ashamed. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #524
STOP POSTING THIS GUY'S CRAP HERE. HE'S BEEN BANNED FROM THIS SITE. brush Aug 2017 #4
Absolutely. Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #7
I value what he has to say. This is not about Hillary. n/t Beringia Aug 2017 #8
He has lost his audience here... Phentex Aug 2017 #12
Sort of. LWolf Aug 2017 #224
I was thinking about you the other day MuseRider Aug 2017 #262
(ditto). . . n/t annabanana Aug 2017 #298
I think that our founding fathers could not survive the Pitt standard Generic Other Aug 2017 #371
Hi, Muse! LWolf Aug 2017 #504
I have an old mare just like that. MuseRider Aug 2017 #522
Looking forward to the school year, to be sure. LWolf Aug 2017 #545
Aww good luck. MuseRider Aug 2017 #547
Will was the first DUer PatSeg Aug 2017 #322
You are thrice wrong GusBob Aug 2017 #13
No, this is about TRUMP. which is who William Rivers Pitt supported in 2016. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #14
I guess you think I am a Nazi too? Generic Other Aug 2017 #56
Unlike the Nazi Pitt, you voted for Clinton. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #69
The way you are foaming at the mouth and spewing such nonsense you seem to have an axe to grind. TastyTaters Aug 2017 #265
Pitt is not a Nazi Generic Other Aug 2017 #372
Can't find the info zentrum Aug 2017 #90
He didn't. That won't stop the DU outrage machine tho Arazi Aug 2017 #96
True. zentrum Aug 2017 #173
He proclaimed openly in an article he would not vote for Hillary Foamfollower Aug 2017 #133
Not supporting Hillary zentrum Aug 2017 #174
Agreed. Saying all non-Hillary voters are Nazis dilutes the meaning of that word. Beartracks Aug 2017 #191
tRump is still early in his term. nt fleabiscuit Aug 2017 #254
How dare your say such a thing LovesPNW Aug 2017 #287
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HILLARY. HE'S BEEN BANNED FROM THE SITE. brush Aug 2017 #20
You want people to judge a post on its own merit???! Beartracks Aug 2017 #259
What does that mean? The guy's work has been banned from this site yet someone keeps posting it. brush Aug 2017 #261
It has? Dennis Donovan Aug 2017 #421
One more time. The guy has been banned. Among other vile things he did here is threaten to kill... brush Aug 2017 #479
FFR is not a ban Dennis Donovan Aug 2017 #487
Check the other responses to the thread. Apparently you weren't here when he spewed his vileness brush Aug 2017 #510
mmmkay... Dennis Donovan Aug 2017 #517
Why do you value what he says? mcar Aug 2017 #70
I value what he says Beringia Aug 2017 #93
Well alrighty then mcar Aug 2017 #98
his good mind told him to be a shithead which helped get Trump elected, so... LibraLiz1973 Aug 2017 #150
His good mind called Obama a "Piece of Shit Used Car Salesman". MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #208
Prove it donheld Aug 2017 #336
Why yes I can prove it: MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #347
"you piece of shit used-car salesman" to be precise. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #350
Nope it's about that Nazi he voted for. Why bring that crap here? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #71
He voted for Bernie. Last time i checked, Bernie wasn't a nazi. WoonTars Aug 2017 #281
He voted for Trump, encouraged others to do so, if he truly did vote for Bernie in the Ninsianna Aug 2017 #521
No matter how you twist and spin it, he wrote down the name 'Bernie Sanders' WoonTars Aug 2017 #528
No matter how one lies to twist and spin and attack those who point out that Ninsianna Aug 2017 #558
I'm not the one lying. WoonTars Aug 2017 #559
So Bernie Sanders is a Nazi? donheld Aug 2017 #345
So, Bernie Sanders is now Donald Trump? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #520
So go read him...but why post his stuff here? Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #426
And he publicly advocated not to vote for Hillary obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #27
Remember why he called Obama POSUCS? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #40
Yes -- and I THINK I called him out on that obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #300
Could you please provide a link showing Will advocating for people not to vote for Hillary? mahina Aug 2017 #387
Now I remember that I forgot to set a block where his name appears in the title phylny Aug 2017 #115
Agreed. He actively worked against Hillary which means LibraLiz1973 Aug 2017 #146
A large barrel of antiintelectual dog vomit... Ellipsis Aug 2017 #246
+1000. Was about to hide thread without even looking inside ecstatic Aug 2017 #256
+1000 stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #327
But her emails... JHB Aug 2017 #9
He is a banned poster here. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #10
Wasn't around for that. What was his justification? Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #11
He hated her guts. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #15
What a dumbass. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #17
Were you here when he called Obama... sheshe2 Aug 2017 #22
Spell it out - "Piece of shit used car salesman". Our DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT!!!! George II Aug 2017 #34
YEP.... sheshe2 Aug 2017 #45
Like I said earlier, those are the people to SHAME and BLAME for what might Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #437
Sad. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #438
I honest to god did NOT know if it was safe to talk about the Clinton's here in Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #439
It is. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #440
no I left because of him way before that grantcart Aug 2017 #80
I don't think so. I've sort of wondered in and out over the years. Gravitycollapse Aug 2017 #52
He didn't vote for Trump. Hissyspit Aug 2017 #220
+1 TastyTaters Aug 2017 #264
Of course he didn't. annabanana Aug 2017 #297
Purity. Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #18
He's not that good of a writer either. It's all so contrived. He's trying too hard (and failing.) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #21
True...yet he thinks he is. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #24
Such Fevered Purple Prose, should maybe try his hand at trashy fiction. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #32
He did - see his words in the OP. George II Aug 2017 #35
He'd probably make a fortune with bodice rippers. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #36
OMG... sheshe2 Aug 2017 #49
Are you saying he's like Louise Mensch TSIAS Aug 2017 #197
Actually, he's not banned pintobean Aug 2017 #149
Same thing sheshe2 Aug 2017 #188
Pitt is as responsible for Trump as anyone. Bleacher Creature Aug 2017 #19
Please delete this. That poster's violent history has no place Pathwalker Aug 2017 #25
Yup, folks are forgetting he threatened to murder another DUer obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #31
As I hear it, he was "drunk" during that episode. Foamfollower Aug 2017 #37
which, as we know, is not an excuse obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #47
I have never forgotten that, nor how quick so many were to Pathwalker Aug 2017 #38
He used to get 100 recs in 5 minutes or less whenever he posted. Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #41
USED to. Hopefully, those days are over. Pathwalker Aug 2017 #44
It is not hero worship to support a long-time DU poster Generic Other Aug 2017 #59
I've only been here since 2002, so I guess I wouldn't know. Pathwalker Aug 2017 #65
You do know Will Pitt delivered the eulogy at Andy's funeral? Generic Other Aug 2017 #68
None of this means I have to respect him, and I don't. Pathwalker Aug 2017 #73
This thread is the very definition of groupthink Generic Other Aug 2017 #78
it is actually the opposite of group think obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #85
The Admns actually should have also contacted the police obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #48
That was a sad day for DU. Did we ever hear from her again? Pathwalker Aug 2017 #51
no obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #54
Thst's what I thought. Thank you for letting me know. Pathwalker Aug 2017 #58
And he did not know the poster when she attacked his mother Generic Other Aug 2017 #61
And Pitt supported Trump mcar Aug 2017 #74
Edited for inaccuracy Generic Other Aug 2017 #79
Stop giving voice here to people who aided and abetted a sociopath Nazi mcar Aug 2017 #81
There's an ignore button if you don't want to read what I say Generic Other Aug 2017 #102
Where did I say Pitt was a Nazi? mcar Aug 2017 #104
Edited for inaccuracy Generic Other Aug 2017 #111
he wrote thread after FB thread attacking Hillary and supporting TRump obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #87
supporting trump? annabanana Aug 2017 #413
Did he also encourage others to leave the ballot blank? If so he's responsible Ninsianna Aug 2017 #120
I am pretty sure he said he had the luxury of not voting Generic Other Aug 2017 #121
There were a lot of white men and women who felt they had that luxury. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #123
I understand your feelings Generic Other Aug 2017 #132
No sheshe2 Aug 2017 #186
Those are NOT on the fence Generic Other Aug 2017 #196
Nope. Those poor people have enough confusing them, since they're not Ninsianna Aug 2017 #194
The Hillary hate has been deliberately fostered for sure Generic Other Aug 2017 #203
They need to have their own moment to come to reason, they knew what Trump was Ninsianna Aug 2017 #244
Marshall Plan POSTWAR Generic Other Aug 2017 #364
So not slaughtering them after we slaughtered their civilians was an act of great Ninsianna Aug 2017 #523
New Hampshire wasn't a sure thing mcar Aug 2017 #125
He had the luxury? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #137
He must have known she would carry his state Generic Other Aug 2017 #145
He must have known? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #153
Well we also drive potential voters away Generic Other Aug 2017 #164
The outcome is never a foregone conclusion. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #175
Are you serious? Hillary Clinton won New Hampshire by less than THREE THOUSAND VOTES! George II Aug 2017 #187
No way as a former MA resident was he unaware NH is more purple than blue. NH seaglass Aug 2017 #205
Each person who rags on a candidate, whoever it is, inflicts that crap Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #459
Nope. Not ever. WoonTars Aug 2017 #274
She won by 3,000 votes in his state. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #286
Calling someone a liar is not appropriate, I think. MineralMan Aug 2017 #321
Deliberately mis-representing someone's point of view is fine though? WoonTars Aug 2017 #358
Clarification: This is a board for Democrats, so the "purity" tests were R B Garr Aug 2017 #370
My house is fine thank you very much... WoonTars Aug 2017 #377
If you subvert the basic meaning of things, then it brings into question R B Garr Aug 2017 #384
I think you have that precisely backwards... WoonTars Aug 2017 #389
No, you are the one who has it backwards. The "purity" standards applied to supposedly impure R B Garr Aug 2017 #393
Who cares if he insylted his mom -- and he supported TRump! obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #86
So target me next? Generic Other Aug 2017 #109
Will Pitt was the first to welcome me when I was a "newbie". oasis Aug 2017 #185
He used his paltform to urge people nt to vote for Hillary obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #271
My post doesn't give Will Pitt a pass oasis Aug 2017 #284
You aren't being 'targeted' or 'driven away'. Please drop the rhetorical melodrama/martyrdom emulatorloo Aug 2017 #209
I thought you said you voted for Hillary obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #270
In spite of the meanspiritedness of some of her allies, I did Generic Other Aug 2017 #352
William Pitt did NOT support Trump. Ever. donheld Aug 2017 #486
Yup. nt LexVegas Aug 2017 #103
The guy who called Obama a used car salesman and didn't vote for Hillary... hrmjustin Aug 2017 #42
None Egnever Aug 2017 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author iemitsu Aug 2017 #57
Why. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #62
Do you have a link to this post? Generic Other Aug 2017 #63
He lives in NH....moved there from MA. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #67
I did not see these threads but he stated on election day Generic Other Aug 2017 #72
Where did he state that on election day? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #82
He also posts on other social media and Truthout Generic Other Aug 2017 #89
This is one thread. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #100
When does DU get its pound of flesh? Generic Other Aug 2017 #117
There is a reason for the disdain of William Pitt on DU, and it isn't unfounded. still_one Aug 2017 #147
Not getting single payer is what has put Obamacare in jeopardy Generic Other Aug 2017 #160
The high rates are not the fault of Obama. JHan Aug 2017 #169
Boom! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #189
Nailed it! I don't know how you could be any CLEARER. Still, unfortunately... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #206
Lol.... JHan Aug 2017 #217
His wife WAS COVERED FOR HER MEDS, and Mr. "know it all" opened his big mouth before knowing all still_one Aug 2017 #179
Holy Shit I agree with Chomsky! Egnever Aug 2017 #199
Even Bernie ADMITTED sheshe2 Aug 2017 #182
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #285
"Sanders: Single Payer Never Had A Chance" MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #288
It was not possible...and I for one am thankful we got something...it changed the way Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #506
Thank you, still_one. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #178
This is just a pure flamebait thread. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of the garbage that Pitt still_one Aug 2017 #180
Ya. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #183
I wasn't around for Pitt BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #320
I agree G_j Aug 2017 #230
You realize who was doing most of what you refer to? Follow the link bellow for the an still_one Aug 2017 #325
No offense but drop the strawmen and hyperbole and people might engage you. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #107
Thank you, emulatorloo. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #110
I misread the post and apologized Generic Other Aug 2017 #114
Good for you. Maybe you could go further and self-delete that post where you accused him falsely emulatorloo Aug 2017 #116
I edited the post to take responsibility for my error Generic Other Aug 2017 #119
Dude I am not "raging mad" about anything or anyone, especially op-ed writers emulatorloo Aug 2017 #124
he posted scores and scores of posts saying this on FB obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #88
But you can't find a quote? Generic Other Aug 2017 #94
The whole strawman argument that, "you need to give us an argument to vote for you" is bullshit still_one Aug 2017 #158
Actually. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #190
Does it matter what state, whether it's red or BLUE, in which he votes? George II Aug 2017 #177
he wrote in bernie, so yeah, essentially, did not vote. mopinko Aug 2017 #315
Wow, YOU saw him do that??? You're amazing. Unless you were there with him. This is a lie. auntAgonist Aug 2017 #488
that is what he said on fb. mopinko Aug 2017 #489
I hear he had the "luxury" of not voting Clinton. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #156
Stop polluting this site murielm99 Aug 2017 #66
I agree William Rivers Pitt is a coward BainsBane Aug 2017 #77
I've been a DU member since early 2002 mcar Aug 2017 #97
Thank you for the history of the author. Much appreciated. riversedge Aug 2017 #130
His Mom told him to delete. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #192
He had a pattern of doing that mcar Aug 2017 #211
Thank you for this background. I had an unpleasant experience with this gentleman IRL. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #515
I like Will. His FB group is great too. Thanks for posting this Arazi Aug 2017 #99
You are welcome Beringia Aug 2017 #108
Yup, shortsighted and dangerous. He's not the bad guy DU paints him as Arazi Aug 2017 #118
Yeah, he really is obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #140
He bashed Hillary SHRED Aug 2017 #176
Bash G_j Aug 2017 #234
Some of us don't care for this fascist state Pitt worked BainsBane Aug 2017 #157
He also posted in support of a few very vocal misogynists here... Phentex Aug 2017 #354
Except the state he lives in, and voted in, went for Hillary. WoonTars Aug 2017 #362
Did I say he didn't have a constitutional right to vote as he pleased? BainsBane Aug 2017 #382
No, what is obscene is you laying the death of Heather Heyer at his feet. WoonTars Aug 2017 #390
Heather Heyer, the families ripped apart by immigration raids BainsBane Aug 2017 #404
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #418
People who wrote articles that attacked the Democratic nominee and then did not vote for her Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #507
Not even remotely accurate. WoonTars Aug 2017 #529
I read the articles. I saw his own words attacking Hillary. Google is your friend. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #543
Oh bainsbane! mcar Aug 2017 #417
Gee, let's hear what the asshole who refused to vote for Hillary in the general election thinks still_one Aug 2017 #101
Pitt, and his ilk, is responsible for Trump. So he can take a long walk on a short peer AFAIC. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #105
William Rivers Pitt: Coward. There. nt LexVegas Aug 2017 #106
Oh. More overwriting From the POSUCS himself ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #112
Interesting Thread ! Bill Pitt sure can be as flippant as Trump is for sure ! Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #122
All of that was built on his posts at DU Generic Other Aug 2017 #126
Yr not the only one who lived thru early DU emulatorloo Aug 2017 #127
Don't forget Fitzmas Generic Other Aug 2017 #134
Will was one of the early ones here and he has always spoken his mind and Raven Aug 2017 #144
Hello Raven, old friend Generic Other Aug 2017 #151
Appreciate your post. Yes, I did not like hearing young DU didn't admire and appreciate him because emulatorloo Aug 2017 #167
+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #172
You are seriously equating people here who don't want to hear Pitt's crap to torch carrying MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #214
Here less than a month & calling Will's a voice of "crap" ? countryjake Aug 2017 #229
No, he was not right about Hillary. That kind of divisive shunning of Hillary R B Garr Aug 2017 #219
Thanks. He was VILE the way he handled his hatred of Hillary nini Aug 2017 #499
We're gonna need a bigger boat, ha! countryjake Aug 2017 #228
Thank you, CJ. Raven Aug 2017 #267
Hey Raven... such bittersweet days eh? riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #251
Good to see you, Raven. It's been too long. davsand Aug 2017 #374
I would like a place on that boat as well. MuseRider Aug 2017 #422
+1 bigtree Aug 2017 #531
OK, I see where you are going with it- BUT, Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #131
He had a crosscountry speaking tour Generic Other Aug 2017 #141
Fair enough Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #155
So where's the part where he discloses that he supported Trump in the last election? DanTex Aug 2017 #128
I know he said he would not vote for Hillary Beringia Aug 2017 #129
He said Trump wuld be a better President than Hillary obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #138
My opinion of his admirers and defenders has dropped even LOWER than before. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #170
A no vote for Hillary was a vote for trump. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #139
Except it wasn't, was it? WoonTars Aug 2017 #314
A vote for Bernie in the General was a vote for Trump...anyway you calculate it. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #508
Except no. Do you even Electoral College? WoonTars Aug 2017 #530
Was he living in New Hampshire...very slim margin there? Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #542
Not voting for Hillary is the equivalent of supporting Trump. DanTex Aug 2017 #159
No tears for the Pitt who is technically still a member. ucrdem Aug 2017 #135
Yes he did an I'm walking post before he - departed ! Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #142
It does seem as though he might have intended it. ucrdem Aug 2017 #148
He didn't post this thread today Generic Other Aug 2017 #162
He didn't exactly end on a high note. ucrdem Aug 2017 #163
ucrdem was replying my post about w. Pitt's last post on DU. Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #165
I kind of feel under fire Generic Other Aug 2017 #168
Well, you have been around a long time . Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #171
I did not post his work Generic Other Aug 2017 #181
I know you didn't start the thread. Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #184
I must have missed the serious criticism of the article Generic Other Aug 2017 #375
I see where you are going with that. Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #391
DU used to be so much more than ad hominem attacks Generic Other Aug 2017 #408
How about DU evolves and change as it is and always is remains. Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #448
Grifter enables grifter to attain the White House and still collects a paycheck, news at 11 Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #143
Grifter ... great description. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #154
Bwahahahaha sheshe2 Aug 2017 #193
yup JI7 Aug 2017 #195
yup, Pitt is the piece of shit used car salesman he accused Obama of JI7 Aug 2017 #198
LOL Hissyspit Aug 2017 #222
He supported Trump over Hillary, and urged liberals not to vote obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #241
Except he didn't support Trump.. WoonTars Aug 2017 #269
This Winston Smith moment has been extended Generic Other Aug 2017 #355
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #290
Jeez yourself. Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #252
He co-signed Trump when he said he wouldn't vote for Hillary. *UCK HIM! grossproffit Aug 2017 #152
This seems to have gone well. Nt Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #161
It's about Trump Generic Other Aug 2017 #166
"It's about Trump 24/7 as you have reminded us in the past." Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #216
i think it's fucked up that Pitt threatened to Kill another DU member and was allowed to continue JI7 Aug 2017 #200
I sure wasn't aware of that still_one Aug 2017 #201
I think it's curious the poster left here leftstreet Aug 2017 #204
Uh... yes she was a real person obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #242
She is a real person. Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #253
Omg you have got to be kidding . So other Du posters were lying and together making her up ? lunasun Aug 2017 #258
This happened and was swept under the DU rug. Not one of our finer moments. yardwork Aug 2017 #427
I was never a Pitt fan melman Aug 2017 #202
We can always count on Will Pitt to post his poignant insights Orrex Aug 2017 #207
Excellent observation. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #292
Own up to your own hand in all of this Pitt. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #210
every word printed heaven05 Aug 2017 #213
He didn't fucking vote for Trump! Hissyspit Aug 2017 #221
He helped by trashing Hill? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #223
I didn't say he voted for Hillary. Hissyspit Aug 2017 #226
Then he enabled the "election" of a sociopath Nazi mcar Aug 2017 #237
He wrote plenty of stuff trashing Trump. Hissyspit Aug 2017 #249
He wrote plenty of stuff trashing Hillary mcar Aug 2017 #250
He didn't vote for Trump. Hissyspit Aug 2017 #257
He said he would vote for TRump before Hillary -- you were not obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #272
And plenty trashing Obama even when he was President, so it wasn't the heat of the campaign.... George II Aug 2017 #471
Wait wait.... sheshe2 Aug 2017 #478
Hah! Yes, now I remember that. Thanks for reminding me. And he continues to want his crap.... George II Aug 2017 #483
Not on this thread... sheshe2 Aug 2017 #484
No, he wasn't "helping to warn us." He'd written a piece about how much he disliked Hillary ucrdem Aug 2017 #227
Oh mercy G_j Aug 2017 #236
I saw with my own eyes on his FB his statements he would vote Trump obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #243
What did I say? Hissyspit Aug 2017 #248
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #380
Hey, you need to delete this post. This is not cool. yardwork Aug 2017 #454
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #406
+1000 sheshe2 Aug 2017 #225
Pitt seems to have his supporters and those that just don't like him at all. Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2017 #231
Recommended! H2O Man Aug 2017 #233
hello! G_j Aug 2017 #238
Hello, Buddy! H2O Man Aug 2017 #239
no you certainly can't! G_j Aug 2017 #240
Agreed 100%. He wrote in Bernie in NH, a state that went for HRC 2-1 riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #353
Well said. H2O Man Aug 2017 #361
Nope, NH was a squeaker. Less than 3K votes or .3% of the vote..... bettyellen Aug 2017 #394
Sorry, I misspoke - it was his town and county riderinthestorm Aug 2017 #444
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #460
National election- They don't award electoral votes by county. So that was NOT a safe vote. bettyellen Aug 2017 #467
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #449
Last Nov, Truth-Out was listed as "Fake News" by many ... countryjake Aug 2017 #245
Compared to right wing propaganda Beringia Aug 2017 #247
I don't know greytdemocrat Aug 2017 #266
Here's a link to a site that listed purveyors of Russia propaganda: George II Aug 2017 #296
It was a sad day when progressives opted to eat their own... countryjake Aug 2017 #365
And sadly the GOP loves it Generic Other Aug 2017 #376
Yup, the ratfucking by the right wingnuts gained steam this year countryjake Aug 2017 #396
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #453
Always a great read. CanSocDem Aug 2017 #268
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #275
Even his rants are poorly written. Orrex Aug 2017 #279
And you make your living where, as an erudite wordsmith? WoonTars Aug 2017 #283
You don't have to be a good writer Phentex Aug 2017 #289
Not a valid question, really. MineralMan Aug 2017 #299
Absolutely valid question. WoonTars Aug 2017 #313
No I don't, but neither does Pitt Orrex Aug 2017 #324
What a load. Hissyspit Aug 2017 #335
Slander? That's rich. Orrex Aug 2017 #351
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #457
And!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #477
Erudite must mean being wrong all the time while overusing vulgar curse words and ... betsuni Aug 2017 #480
;) sheshe2 Aug 2017 #482
This thread is a dumpster fire lapislzi Aug 2017 #280
DU has had a major community transition.... FarPoint Aug 2017 #295
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #301
Thank you. H2O Man Aug 2017 #302
If my memory is in tact, G_j Aug 2017 #305
Crowd behavior H2O Man Aug 2017 #309
Exactly... FarPoint Aug 2017 #311
Absolutely... FarPoint Aug 2017 #307
"I have over 3,000 people participating on my FB wall." betsuni Aug 2017 #304
I believe the numbers are much higher. FarPoint Aug 2017 #308
I guess they like bad writing. betsuni Aug 2017 #312
I throughly enjoy his writing.. FarPoint Aug 2017 #323
Very articulate PatSeg Aug 2017 #332
What's disappointing to me is a fascist in the White House BainsBane Aug 2017 #469
Your reaction here is exactly what others feel about the lies you told R B Garr Aug 2017 #310
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #338
He did not vote for the Democratic Candidate...there is no excuse for that. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #343
Many spoke out over Pres. Obama's attempts to reach across the aisle Generic Other Aug 2017 #381
Thanks...it seems some have a real dislike of Democrats and the Party. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #398
Yep, and god knows where they learned it. Pretty stupid to claiim to be liberal or Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #463
I am with you...I would crawl across broken glass to vote for the Dem ...for years Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #513
He, like many in safe districts made a protest vote. Stoic Aug 2017 #405
I don't buy protest votes...and those votes would have counted in the popular vote...we are Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #433
NH was never a safe district and she won by a slight margin. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #476
I never accused him of that. I say he is a phony bullshit artist, who called President Obama every still_one Aug 2017 #379
He asked some one to post that response is what I saw when I got on my FB and googled his name. Autumn Aug 2017 #403
Yes, you obviously see it's from him. So why ask me for screen caps and say R B Garr Aug 2017 #407
Will didn't say he created a sock to post that, he asked if anyone who could still post at DU Autumn Aug 2017 #415
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #431
This is laughable. His post was in this thread, removed R B Garr Aug 2017 #493
hahahahaha I'm not the only one that said that obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #473
IBTL leftstreet Aug 2017 #369
This thread Blue_In_AK Aug 2017 #392
It's sad that solidarity to stop the rethugs... countryjake Aug 2017 #395
... leftstreet Aug 2017 #419
Thank you. Blue_In_AK Aug 2017 #474
Hi Blue!! SHRED Aug 2017 #490
You can block SHRED Aug 2017 #496
+10000... G_j Aug 2017 #546
Well...this opus will certainly NOT be DU's finest hour. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #461
+ a million. Blue_In_AK Aug 2017 #475
From the author of: "Hillary Clinton is a terrible fucking candidate, and I'm not voting for her" oberliner Aug 2017 #491
This thread is breaking my heart. Raven Aug 2017 #494
Thank you for this, but just to note that "what he does everyday, day after day" is the problem. ucrdem Aug 2017 #495
I would appreciate it if you would not use my words out of context. n/t Raven Aug 2017 #497
I quoted accurately and selected carefully. If you think I misrepresented your words, ucrdem Aug 2017 #498
Anybody who accuses Will of intellectual lethargy crim son Aug 2017 #526
That is all well and good, but I read his articles about Hillary Clinton before the election. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #500
Pitt, nor his writing, anything about him, does NOT belong on a board dedicated Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #509
I agree. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #514
I think so too. I despise this guy after reading what he wrote. And I remember him saying Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #544
This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #500
This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #500
I am sorry it is breaking your heart Beringia Aug 2017 #527
Sorry, but I can't respect anything said by someone who told OUR President Obama: George II Aug 2017 #539
Amem JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #549
No JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #548
How in the world is that link still here, that OP. Amazing Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #568
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #532
ignored the politics of opposing our nominee bigtree Aug 2017 #533
"No one on this board would hear it...." isn't that the sad truth and Raven Aug 2017 #535
When there's a binary choice JHan Aug 2017 #541
Raven, we stand with Will. Always. 7wo7rees Aug 2017 #565
Who could be more irrelevant than preachy, professorial Pitt? delisen Aug 2017 #538
Preachy, professional, flagged Mr. Pitt. George II Aug 2017 #540

dsc

(52,264 posts)
1. any fool could have told you that Trump would be like this
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 04:54 PM
Aug 2017

but the author of that article didn't think it mattered because Hillary had an email account or whatever.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
5. New thread title: COWARDLY WRITER WRITES ABOUT COWARD-IN-CHIEF!
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 04:57 PM
Aug 2017

In order to profit off what he helped along!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
136. Ding ding ding.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:14 PM
Aug 2017

Writer brags about voting for Jill Stein on his FB page, and now collects a paycheck for complaining about the outcome. No thanks from me.

Response to Foamfollower (Reply #5)

Orrex

(63,525 posts)
276. If it makes you feel better, he was indefensible when he was on DU, too.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 09:43 AM
Aug 2017

Yet still he has his acolytes, despite his explicit threat to another DUer and his "used car salesman" rejection of Obama, as well as his passionate advocacy against the 2016 Democratic candidate.

Yes, Pitt is definitely a DUer we want on our side, if only so that we can read his poorly-written rehashes of opinions that other people posted three days prior.


Golly, how I miss him!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
566. Here are the
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:32 AM
Aug 2017

exact words he used toward President Obama::

"F--- you, Mr. President, you piece of sh*t used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, f--- you."

This was the original thread where Will Pitt posted that OP (he deleted it after it was left up for over a year):

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024685964

And he followed up with more anti-Obama threads, including this:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10026887802

Eliot Rosewater

(31,360 posts)
567. Why is the link to his garbage still up here? Surely it was sent to jury, you know what that tells
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 11:38 AM
Aug 2017

Not safe here for democrats. We better watch our asses and not piss off a certain bunch, I guess.

Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #566)

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
316. He's FFR. Will won't create a sock to post here at DU. You being a new sign up from last month,
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 11:29 AM
Aug 2017

well after Pitt last posted here may not realize that long time DUers with scruples don't get FFR and sign up real quick with a new name.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
326. Because you say so? I remember a former poster, now FFR who was very racist. It was amazing how
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 11:54 AM
Aug 2017

when she would post a shit storm a few "socks" who were stalking her would show up in her threads to get banned so she could have verification in her threads.
Whatever, Will Pitt has not created a sock to post his writing and his opinions here. Unlike all the new people in this thread who came in long after Will was flagged that positively hate him and remember all his sins. Skinner doesn't mind people coming back, he stated that in ATA and MIRT once, as long as they don't carry on in the same way that got them flagged in the first place. But most carry their issues right back.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
328. It still blows your theory. You're just making exceptions now typical of the
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:05 PM
Aug 2017

previous divisiveness we've seen. And she wasn't racist. How ridiculous, but indicative of the motives of those who were "stalking" her.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
329. Do you have a screen cap of the post by Will? Pardon me if I don't take your word.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:08 PM
Aug 2017

Proof is always nice. As for the rest of your remarks we and others on the receiving end obviously have a very different interpretation of racism.

Response to Autumn (Reply #329)

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
334. He posted to stick up for himself in a thread attacking him. He disn't post his articles
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:25 PM
Aug 2017

or his opinions here as I was sure he wouldn't so I was half wrong. I have no problem admitting that.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
359. Uh huh
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:14 PM
Aug 2017

That was his screen name: "Uh huh"

See post #338 -- he put his post on his Facebook and someone copied it here. LOL,

Response to Autumn (Reply #329)

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
397. I'm done with this discussion since a MIRT member posted the MIRT message about the banned poster
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 04:23 PM
Aug 2017

containing the now deleted post quoted in it, I take that MIRT member at his word, I have never known him to lie to me. I assume he is a MIRT member since he has access to MIRT messages.

As to your question about another flagged member yes screen caps have been posted, many last year. Have a wonderful day.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
399. Your request for "screen caps", along with another member joining in with
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 04:38 PM
Aug 2017

"nyuk nyuk" as if there was some big gotcha going on at my expense is why I asked you for screen caps. You are refusing to post the supposed screen caps, so why would you ask me to do something you are unwilling to do.

And, yes, post 338 is a "screen cap" of the post removed on this thread. He posted it on his Facebook page, and it was copied here.

Have a nice day, yourself.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
401. I'm not on his FB and you were the one hinting that it was Will. You want screen caps of your
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 04:43 PM
Aug 2017

friends post you can probably get them from a lot of people on his FB page, I won't post them or mail them since she's not here any longer.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
402. Then why would I post something that you admit you are unwilling to post?
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 04:50 PM
Aug 2017

You were obviously trying to make it a gotcha moment, but now that it's been pointed out that the post is here on this thread -- you don't need to say it was a "hint". It was copied from his Facebook page by at least two posters here, all you have to do is read the posts.

Post 338 has it, another poster just took it from his Facebook page, and it's apparently still on his Facebook page. You have three (3) sources to read the post from him.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
410. I got on FB, since he is public I saw Will ask if anyone who could post on DU would give his
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:10 PM
Aug 2017

reply to the poster that was deleted by MIRT. Many were willing to do so, I still have seen no proof it was Will signing up to post that reply and he didn't admit that he did on his FB post. Anyone can see that on FB, no screen shots or cut and paste needed.

The screen shots I have, that I said I'm not willing to post is because that person has no bearing on this discussion so you should quit bringing her up. Thanks for the pleasant discussion.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
411. You are contradicting yourself again. You acknowledge downthread that you know
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:13 PM
Aug 2017

the post is from Will.

There are three (3) sources and you are now making it the 4th that say the post is on his Facebook page and it was copied here. This is not complicated.

And you brought "her" up by commenting on someone else's recent join date (post 326).

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
441. lol, obviously he asked if someone could post it, which they did.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:31 PM
Aug 2017

And that's what I told you and what you acknowledged. Post 338 got it from his Facebook page. Another poster also posted it from his Facebook page. You acknowledge twice now that it came from his Facebook page, and now you confirm my first post to you that someone (post 338) took it from his Facebook page to post here.

lol, so there were no "hints" about it. We all saw it.

Demsrule86

(69,334 posts)
423. I know who you refer to and she is good people...one could consider what happened to her as unfair.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:56 PM
Aug 2017

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
425. Skinner said, it doesn't take a lot to not get banned or flagged. Just be civil. Have a nice day. n
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:59 PM
Aug 2017

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
443. Calling her a racist is certainly not civil or fair.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:36 PM
Aug 2017

And so much for the concern over people not being able to defend themselves.....

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
447. That's weird it was linked here, then. Flamebait?
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:47 PM
Aug 2017

Don't know. But I did see it suggested that those that know where to find him can read him at that source. I can understand that mostly because he didn't vote for the Democrat. Now look what we have.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
450. Will is a known writer,articles by writers are posted here all the time. One of the features of DU.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:51 PM
Aug 2017

there is no rule that content by writers who can no longer post here cannot be posted.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
452. Aren't there TOS rules, though? Support Democrats.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:54 PM
Aug 2017

So that is probably where the problem is. If you malign our candidate and state in your vast arsenal of print media that you will not vote for our candidate, then it's a different story. That's how I understand it, anyway. And that looks to be correct if you look at the responses here.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
458. But he made a stand here against the Democrat on
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:10 PM
Aug 2017

the ticket, which is what the issue is. That article about the "coward in chief" is in the OP, and not voting for the Democrat is how Trump got into the White House, so this is back to square one now, which you can read from the start of the thread for the responses on how he's not taken seriously because of not voting for Hillary. It's all in this thread already.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
462. In a blue state a missed vote doesn't change the fact that Hillary won the election by over
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:23 PM
Aug 2017

3 million votes, she also won the NH EC votes. It's his vote to do with it as he chooses. I consider it a waste of time to hate people who didn't vote for her, she won the election by a large margin.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
464. Someone already pointed out that New Hampshire went to Bush in 2000,
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:29 PM
Aug 2017

so that's a bogus excuse. Anyone who didn't vote for the Democrat knew what the consequences were. Al Gore won that 2000 election, too, but the Nader lies made it close. We've already seen this before, so it takes his authority as a critic in that article away if he helped contribute to putting Trump in office by not voting for the Democrat.

It's all in this thread already. The responses are clear and make a lot of sense.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
466. I have no interest in discussing any past election or any voters and the choice they made.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:41 PM
Aug 2017

It's not my circus and it's not my monkeys. Trump sucks and is a danger to humanity. That's what should be focused on.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
468. Trump sucked before Nov. 8th, as well. He was an obvious con man.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:45 PM
Aug 2017

Anyone attacking Hillary helped bring us Trump. The Russian hacking shows how those unnecessary attacks on her were used. And the Russians are still at it, so it looks like people will have little tolerance anymore for irresponsible journalism.

Autumn

(45,331 posts)
470. No, Trump and his campaign brought us Trump. YMMV but that's my opinion, I don't do hate.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:53 PM
Aug 2017

I'm going to trash this thread, it's kind of icky. Take care.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
472. Russian hacking is also real. Trump is under FBI investigation.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 08:11 PM
Aug 2017

Lots of ugly things. Trump had a lot of help from ugly sources.

You take care, too.

AntiFascist

(12,795 posts)
550. Hillary is history, get over it...
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 05:35 PM
Aug 2017

do we have to continue supporting her in future elections? I voted for Hillary for president and I supported her over Bernie Sanders, but I was also a bit ruthless toward her back when she ran against Obama. If we continue along the lines that "everyone must think the same way that I do", then Democrats as a party will continue to face defeat.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
551. You've got to be kidding. Get over what?? Trump being president?
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 05:42 PM
Aug 2017

No. No. Never. The numbers show that Democrats haven't actually faced defeat except when there is divisiveness and lies. I could tell you what to get over "it", too. That was the real issue with divisiveness from 2015.

AntiFascist

(12,795 posts)
552. I'm just saying, as a party we need to get over Hillary's loss and move on...
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 06:07 PM
Aug 2017

and that doesn't mean we move on from the investigations into Russian hacking, collusion and Trump's Quid Pro Quo arrangements. Those are separate issues and we should never get over that until justice prevails.

If Hillary decided to run again against a fresh, new progressive face many of us may come down hard on her again. We might point out that her campaign, with all of it's baggage, against Trump, was way too close for comfort and we don't a repeat.

ucrdem

(15,629 posts)
553. On the other hand 2020 might be her year.
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 06:27 PM
Aug 2017

If there's a fresh new progressive face that has the wherewithal to overcome the monstrous RW noise machine, great, let's go with him/her. If there isn't, and so far I haven't seen such a person (2024, yes, 2020, not yet), 2020 might finally be her year, meaning Mr and Mrs Ohio-Pennsylvania-Michigan might finally be ready to get behind another Clinton presidency. We could do worse.


ETA: I don't think this will happen, but the point is that it's unwise to toss aside any viable candidate, and the winner of the 2016 presidential election is a viable candidate, and I think she would probably win if she runs in 2020. But I'm pretty sure she won't.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
554. "Coming down hard on her" is why we lost. Too much divisiveness for a prolonged
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 06:36 PM
Aug 2017

period is too much for any candidate. So stop it. The attacks on her were way over the top. That's what this thread is about actually. Someone who contributed to her loss by advocating to other easily influenced people that they are somehow showing principle by not voting is the absurd reason we have Trump.

I'm not getting where you think Hillary may run again. Way too close? There were 75,000 or so people who decided this election, and there was an active campaign called Busters who refused to vote unless they got their preferred candidate. So we lost. If you don't vote out of protest or write in someone's else's name, it's a vote for Trump.

AntiFascist

(12,795 posts)
555. A lot of people voted for Trump out of protest, even though they suspected he wouldn't be good...
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 07:10 PM
Aug 2017

they were hoping he would turn Washington upside down and were tired of politics as usual.

This is why I posted recently that the alt-right and extreme Left have a subject in common: anti-globalization, a cause that the Left should be debating, but the Right seems to be controlling the argument from both sides. The media loves a good fight and Breitbart may be gearing up to give it to them, but ultimately it is the Right that wants control of the issue from their distorted Nationalist perspective.

Someone argued that Bernie Sanders got into a fight with globalists and ended up with threats against him and his family. That is sad if true.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
557. At least you admit the strategy didn't care that a Republican
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 11:36 PM
Aug 2017

took office. That makes the "far left" (your words) not very believable about progressive/liberal policies. The GOP thanks them for their help in letting the GOP keep power.

The rest sounds too abstract. I think people will be welcoming of stability in government now instead of the shock jock posturing of all this agitation. And Brietbart shouldn't be elevated anymore than we're forced to hear about them through their mouthpiece in the WH. Lots of these Nazi sites are losing their internet providers. Let them trip themselves up.



AntiFascist

(12,795 posts)
560. I'm not talking about a "far left" strategy in this case...
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 12:00 PM
Aug 2017

I'm talking about the rising discontent that swept through the rust belt which Trump was able to capitalize on, and Democrats largely ignored. Breitbart may now be trying to capitalize on this as well, but I agree that they shouldn't be given more attention by the media. I'm not trying to elevate anything, I'm just pointing out a phenomena that many Hillary supporters continue to oblivious to.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
561. I figured this was just another divisive exercise to cap on "Hillary supporters"
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 01:06 PM
Aug 2017


So Bernie lost also. Over a year ago. What you are ignoring is that the divisiveness was fostered to create the results we got, and obviously that was to attack Hillary, who was the Democratic nominee. The subject of this thread also contributed with anti-Hillary writings. That's what is being ignored. It's already obvious that the RW keeps stirring up the non-Hillary supporters and some keep falling for their games. It's really obvious.

AntiFascist

(12,795 posts)
562. Anti-Hillary rhetoric is no longer relevant as we look to the future...
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:33 PM
Aug 2017

unless of course she decides to run for office again, which is why I wonder about that.

The RW can stir up Hillary supporters all they want, but when they latch onto a much broader movement that the Left fails to address, that's what I feel is dangerous for Democrats. I'm not talking about white supremacy movements either, I'm talking about the margin of voters in the Rust Belt who shifted from voting for Obama in one election to Trump in the next. These voters are not necessarily dedicated to one party alone and decided to vote instead for who they felt would bring about the most change. They must be disappointed at this point, but Democrats need someone like Obama who will at least talk about change that appeals to them.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
563. Well, when Democrats are maligned as corrupt and
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:03 PM
Aug 2017

out of touch, then of course messaging is a problem. That was beyond irresponsible, and there was no excuse for it.

AntiFascist

(12,795 posts)
564. I'm not defending whatever it was that William Pitt said that got him booted...
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:20 PM
Aug 2017

and most Democrats cannot be painted with such a broad brush.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,360 posts)
429. I smell Hillary hate in this thread, real stanky too.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:04 PM
Aug 2017

Imagine being on the brink of literal extinction and people still engaging in such.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,360 posts)
451. Funny thing is if you ask them why they so dislike her, what her
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:52 PM
Aug 2017

positions and actions are all they can point to is a speech, smiling in a photo with Kissinger, and the comment about predators or something (and most of the critics are white so that last one is disingenuous) but they are all disingenuous because if you look at her record she is a liberal and one of the best if not the best candidate the party ever had.

R B Garr

(17,175 posts)
456. Yes, and that's why the Russian propaganda machines had such easy pickings.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:04 PM
Aug 2017

They knew who to copy to attack Hillary. No facts needed, no context needed. Just emotional and petty claptrap, the examples you gave are perfect. Who goes around telling people off, as they expected her to do to Bush or other GOP'ers. No one does that, and no one in real life does that unless you can afford to completely burn your bridges. It's just absurd what she was put through. I miss her.

betsuni

(26,544 posts)
465. Something Hillary said in 1993 will be taken out of context and repeated over and over
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:36 PM
Aug 2017

and everything she ever said examined under a magnifying glass, but for others we're not supposed to remember anything they've written even when it's spectacularly vulgar and hateful. "He's a good person," they say. Where have I heard that before?

Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #282)

Response to Post removed (Reply #260)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,360 posts)
430. Dear god, I bet the preson who said that isnt fit to wipe Obama's ass anymore
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:07 PM
Aug 2017

than most could imagine doing IN THEIR LIFETIMES what the Clinton foundation does in ONE day.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
39. The point is very few in the media spoke out against Trump
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:25 PM
Aug 2017

Don't forget that. Today, they are mostly united in a feeding frenzy against him, but flash back a few months and most seemed willing to give Fascism a chance. Only a few voices in the media were raising the alarm.

Everyone voted for HRC. She won. Please stop picking old wounds.

dsc

(52,264 posts)
43. the fact the others misbehaved as badly as he did doesn't make it OK
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:27 PM
Aug 2017

He decided it didn't matter if Trump became President because reasons. He is one reason why Trump is defiling the White House as I type.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
53. DSC we have been arguing on DU since its inception
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:47 PM
Aug 2017

Yet I don't see you as my undying enemy. Yes, we disagreed during primaries and yes this one was the hardest to heal from, but we need to have an amnesty on attacking former DUers like this if people can't resist forming a lynch mob every time they hear his name. It makes me feel like crying to see it happen. Will Pitt has a voice that has made lots of noise over the years. Shouting him down forever with one harsh quote he made in the heat of the moment won't drown out the good work he has done and continues to do by raising his voice.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
64. I think if people want to discredit Pitt or anyone
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:18 PM
Aug 2017

they would do better by ignoring him rather than pumping his Internet presence posting threads on how much they hate him. Rehashing it positive or negative is in his favor.

I suppose the real reason people keep attacking him here is to let off steam but it's not really hurting him, his credibility or his lack of credibility.

Freedom of speech and the Internet... a complex combination.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
75. I am the last person to act all prim and proper about civility
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:41 PM
Aug 2017

as I give as good as I get here, but I always believe we are the ones who rise above the swamp we look down upon. Just to the right of our field of vision.

Squinch

(51,315 posts)
344. Everyone didn't vote for HRC. There are some "returners" here, some in this very thread,
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:45 PM
Aug 2017

who posted elsewhere that they would NEVER vote for Hillary.

Not to mention The Pitts himself.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
360. I said I would NEVER vote for her and yet I did
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:14 PM
Aug 2017

So my votes didn't count? Because it wasn't done with the right attitude? Others who said NEVER also voted for her after the primaries. In spite of some of her supporters who seemed intent on driving people away.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
366. She won and Russians stole it
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:36 PM
Aug 2017

I personally think a vote for Stein was a waste and maybe worse that she was a Putin candidate. But I know most who voted for her were progressives and believed a lot of what I believe. Same as I think you are a progressive and/or a liberal and a Democrat. We must agree on some things. Otherwise we would be posting on Discussionist.

I don't believe in attacking others who are potential friends and allies though, attacking them forever with the same accusations and with a fervor I reserve for Trump. Will Pitt does not deserve to be attacked like he was Trump's right hand man. He is not Bannon and nothing people say here will convince all DUers that he is.

Squinch

(51,315 posts)
373. He threatened to kill a DUer, he was disgusting about Obama, he vowed not to vote for Hillary, he
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:58 PM
Aug 2017

created one drama queen nonsense controversy after another as long as I was aware of him. He doesn't get any respect from me. He is not a potential friend. He encouraged people not to vote for the Democratic candidate when Trump was the Republican candidate.

And it's not the same accusations. It's not accusations at all. It is simply observations of his multiple acts of assholery.

Yes, I would hope we agree on some things. This is not going to be one of them.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
383. Drama Queen?
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 03:29 PM
Aug 2017

A poster he did not know insulted his mother. When I posted that my mother died and linked to a video she made, I got hate responses from some people too. They read about her on DU and went to Youtube to say I FAKED her death because I was a DRAMA QUEEN. I deleted many comments on Youtube. Some were angry responses I made to deplorables who found me through DU.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
386. People do not respond well to having their mothers insulted
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 03:39 PM
Aug 2017

It is a form of fighting words. Since you are the one who brought up this red herring as a way to deflect from my original comment, I thought I should address it.

Response to Generic Other (Reply #386)

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
2. The man who wrote this has no right to complain as he refused to vote for Hillary!
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 04:55 PM
Aug 2017

Fuck him.

Fuck all like him

HE is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for Trump and the rise of Nazism in America.

I will give him NOTHING now that he is trying to profit from what HE created.

FUCK HIM!!!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,360 posts)
434. ABsolutely, by the way they are very busy right now attacking Kamala
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:16 PM
Aug 2017

and Patrick and Booker and will be working FEVERISHLY to make sure the GOP retains power.

They dont like repubs, but they HATE liberals.

JustAnotherGen

(32,503 posts)
512. I don't get it?
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:14 PM
Aug 2017

What's the image from?

Do you mean "Do you admire . . ." I don't watch walking dead or zombie shows so I miss the references.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
518. It's always best to...
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:38 PM
Aug 2017


... especially when someone is trying to ridicule or poke-fun... lest the meme itself becomes an object of ridicule and hilarity!



, etc etc etc

aikoaiko

(34,195 posts)
525. I fixed it. It's a image related to The Purge horror movies.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 04:30 PM
Aug 2017

And yes there was a word missing. I fixed it up.

FarPoint

(12,877 posts)
291. That is not true....
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 10:13 AM
Aug 2017

Last edited Fri Aug 18, 2017, 10:59 AM - Edit history (1)

He was a Sanders supporter...but...he is a True DEMOCRAT...Never would he vote for tRump nor would he not vote....

I know Will Pitt.... he's earned his just respects...I defend him against this lies....We need to embrace our Party as a Whole...

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
333. Remember when he called Obama a Piece of shit used car salesman?
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:24 PM
Aug 2017


Sure. THAT was embracing our party as a whole. WRP can go fuck himself.

Response to Adrahil (Reply #333)

Demsrule86

(69,334 posts)
339. He is proof...took me three minutes on Google.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:40 PM
Aug 2017

William Pitt

The used car salesman strikes again

"Moreover, Russia has pointed to America’s decision to go into Iraq as an example of Western hypocrisy. Now, it is true that the Iraq War was a subject of vigorous debate not just around the world, but in the United States as well. I participated in that debate and I opposed our military intervention there. But even in Iraq, America sought to work within the international system. We did not claim or annex Iraq’s territory. We did not grab its resources for our own gain. Instead, we ended our war and left Iraq to its people and a fully sovereign Iraqi state that could make decisions about its own future."

- Obama, in Brussells, yesterday

An amazing amount of bullshit in one paragraph. We ran roughshod over the international community to get that war going. If an invasion and ten-year occupation isn't annexation, then nothing is. We totally, totally grabbed their resources, because the oil was supposed to "pay for the war," as I recall...and there were gas lines in Iraq for years after the invasion, because we were sitting on their oil like it was our own private piggy bank. And as for the state we left Iraq in, thousands upon thousands of people have been killed in the sectarian strife we left behind. They aren't making decisions about their future. They're running for their damned lives.

The used car salesman is trying to sell the lemon that was the Iraq war in order to avoid sounding like a hypocrite about Russia.

Utterly nauseating.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024734511

Brother Buzz

(36,713 posts)
346. Ah, that's just used car salesman
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:54 PM
Aug 2017

It was pointed out to me upthread that it was POS used car salesman, or piece of shit used car thread. Words matter, or something.

Demsrule86

(69,334 posts)
400. Google it...you will see it when you click on it ...it was self deleted but did say it clearly.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 04:40 PM
Aug 2017

This message was self-deleted by its author - Democratic Underground
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024685964
Mar 18, 2014 - "fuck you mr president you piece of shit used car salesman" is an .... Ranting on the DU about how awful Obama is won't change anything.
You visited this page on 8/18/17.


This message was self-deleted by its author

This message was self-deleted by its author (WilliamPitt) on Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:41 PM. When the original post in a discussion thread is self-deleted, the entire discussion thread is automatically locked so new replies cannot be posted.
Here is a post that was in response....

He obviously said it...it is posted on other right wing sites...and attributed to him.


https://www.google.com/search?q=President+Obama+is+a+piece+of+shit+used+car+salesman+democratic+underground&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS730US730&oq=President+Obama+is+a+piece+of+shit+used+car+salesman+democratic+underground&aqs=chrome..69i57.30839j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024685964

FarPoint

(12,877 posts)
409. See....it was a brief rant of frustration.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:08 PM
Aug 2017

He focused on ACA...and yes, we came up real short of our goal....far from single payer...but we did get ACA where we COULD OF built a stronger system....He should of added the GOP obstruction...that's really where his anger was fueled....I'm fine with it...

The post was misleading.. claiming fuck Obama.. it was definitely not that way .. it as an issue frustration.

mcar

(42,885 posts)
416. A brief rant of frustration?
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:32 PM
Aug 2017

He called President Obama a "piece of shit used car salesman." He said f you to him.

He should have been banned for that.


You asked for proof, then move the goalposts.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,360 posts)
436. Brief rant? How long does it take to briefly turn a
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:18 PM
Aug 2017

room full of folks who normally dont vote, to REALLY not vote when they hear attacks like that of HIllary?

Yeah, I blame lots of people for why a Nazi is in the WH, but if those progressives had not acted like that, we would not be here right now talking about trump.

FarPoint

(12,877 posts)
349. Actually no I don't...
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 01:05 PM
Aug 2017

If he did..it was probably a brief single issue frustration....He was on Team Obama.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
367. He did. See above. I would not have asserted it otherwise.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:38 PM
Aug 2017

He was tombstoned precisely because of outbursts like that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
420. Far point, are you so sure? We now know that social media was and is
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:53 PM
Aug 2017

flooded with hostile professional agents, both foreign and domestic, whose purpose was and is to sow dissension and disillusionment and turn as many on the left as possible against both the party as a whole and against our presidential candidate by providing false information and stirring up trouble on forums like this one.

The actions of this particular demagogic troublemaker fit that profile all too well, so well that it doesn't even matter whether he was paid or not, operating on his own or not, sabotaging our party on behalf of the right deliberately or accidentally. The actions stand on their own.

FarPoint

(12,877 posts)
303. You don't even know him...
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 11:04 AM
Aug 2017

If you got to actually know him...or even care to know his Democratic contributions, commitment and dynamic knowledge of our political arena.. If you did that...you might be feeling a little shameful.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
524. I interacted with him in the "political arena." I don't think any poster here should feel ashamed.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:45 PM
Aug 2017

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
224. Sort of.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 05:38 PM
Aug 2017

He isn't here, so has no "audience" here, but there are still DUers who DO both read his work AND talk to him elsewhere. Will was one of the group of DUers I first got to know right here back in '03; sometimes I agreed with him, sometimes not, sometimes really not, but I listened, engaged, and found substance to discuss. Not so much anymore here; it's become more and more an authoritarian echo chamber as it's evolved.

MuseRider

(34,250 posts)
262. I was thinking about you the other day
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 01:53 AM
Aug 2017

and wondering how you are. Good to see you.

It is always good to read Will, you don't have to agree with everything you read. If you want to learn you read many things and sometimes discard them, not because of the author but because there is no value to that particular piece of writing. Throwing out Will Pitt by liberals would be stupid no matter what he has said or how he voted (nobody knows what he actually did so get over yourselves it is none of your business anyway). His ideas are worth reading and considering. The reactions here are what I expect from high school students who need to belong to a certain group and cannot stand being threatened by how others dress.

I am grateful to be his friend elsewhere and read him in other places. I am always glad to see him posted here as well.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
371. I think that our founding fathers could not survive the Pitt standard
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:50 PM
Aug 2017

They were slave owners and should never be praised EVER EVER EVER for any good they accomplished because of they owned human beings and did not have consistent enough worldviews. Yet most of us give them a pass for the good they set in motion. We may not approve of their actions as slaveholders, but we have not thrown out the Dec of Independence or the Bill of Rights because we hate Jefferson. We have not removed all references to George Washington because he owned slaves.

Jefferson acknowledged slavery was wrong, and yet he did nothing to alleviate the problem. Should we hate the man and post angry words whenever we speak his name?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
504. Hi, Muse!
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 11:23 AM
Aug 2017

I try to stop in here once a week or so, for LOLcats in the lounge, if nothing else. I hope you are doing well.

This is my last weekend before I'm back to school full-time, except for Monday. We are in the path of totality for Monday's eclipse, and have been overrun with an influx of people here to see the event; more visitors than actual residents, so our quiet roads and gas stations and stores and parking AND emergency services are severely taxed; our school district is shutting down and locking up the entire district Monday.

Things here are about the same, otherwise, except for my old mare. She's fine right now, but has come out of winter in terrible shape the last two springs in a row, and I don't know if I want to put her through another. A hard choice, since her coat's shiny, her ribs are finally not showing, and her energy is good; it only took almost the entire spring and summer to get her back to that condition, though. I keep putting off making that final choice.

MuseRider

(34,250 posts)
522. I have an old mare just like that.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:46 PM
Aug 2017

She is still ribby and I too have been fighting it with her all summer and it has been so so hot. The day we hit 126 heat index I was surprised any of the critters made it, including me!

Mine I cannot boost with different food choices or she gets the runs. Back and forth. One more winter I think, she has not seemed terribly upset about it all and she gets a double stall with fans and a mister during the day and of course she loves showing it off to the others out in the heat. I think she still has time.

We are about 100 miles from the total eclipse. We will be headed North to try and meet up with some cousins and annoy some farmers up there by parking along their road. Knowing how I would feel about others coming on the farm or putting a bunch of crap on the grass we will be courteous, stay on the side of the road and not do that. I am bringing a card to put in the box thanking them if they let us stay. I imagine even here it will be busy but it will not be full.

I hope it does not get worse for you this weekend. Enjoy the eclipse, I am looking forward to it. The adventure will be the fun part I suppose since it is supposed to get cloudy and rain here. It will still get very dark and that in itself will be interesting.

Have a great school year.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
545. Looking forward to the school year, to be sure.
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 01:47 PM
Aug 2017

I'll know it's time to retire when I'm not excited to see students.

Here it's more about the winter cold than the summer heat; I'm wondering if I can get her to wear a blanket if we can't do one more winter. Last winter was the worst around here since 1992, and school went way beyond the last day of school doing make-up days. I still have spots in the barn roof to repair, and broken pipes, before it freezes up again. So many roofs collapsed that anyone who would work on roofs has had a months-long waiting list.

She's never worn a blanket, and tends to be very touchy about touching. She'll let me brush her, she'll let us pick up her feet, but she doesn't like anyone but me to touch her. When it cools down a bit, I'll start working with the blanket and see if I can get her comfortable before everything freezes up.

MuseRider

(34,250 posts)
547. Aww good luck.
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 04:09 PM
Aug 2017

Mine loves having a blanket but she did not want it at first. It took some time. If she trusts you, and she obviously does, then you will get it done. I would start early, some of them take a long time. I have one that needs to be broke to fly spray every year.

PatSeg

(49,042 posts)
322. Will was the first DUer
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 11:47 AM
Aug 2017

to greet and welcome me back in 2004. I may not always agree with him or anyone for that matter, but this thread is over the top. A lot of people I know have moved away from Democratic Underground and it is largely because of these sorts of frenzied attacks.

I have enough republicans and white supremacists to be angry at, I won't waste my anger on Democrats.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
14. No, this is about TRUMP. which is who William Rivers Pitt supported in 2016.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:08 PM
Aug 2017

If you didn't vote Hillary, you supported Trump.

There is no other choice. Choosing AGAINST Hillary was to support Trump and that's exactly what this fucking Nazi fuck did.

Yes, William Rivers Pitt is FUCKING NAZI because he chose to help Trump win.

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
56. I guess you think I am a Nazi too?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:55 PM
Aug 2017

Guilt by association.

I voted for Clinton, but I never much liked the flashmob mentality expressed here. Sorry. Guess I should expect to be driven off soon too.

edited: to reflect I do not think I am a Nazi under any circumstances.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
69. Unlike the Nazi Pitt, you voted for Clinton.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:32 PM
Aug 2017

You chose to vote AGAINST the Nazis, unlike Pitt who was okay with Nazis taking over.

 

TastyTaters

(17 posts)
265. The way you are foaming at the mouth and spewing such nonsense you seem to have an axe to grind.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:48 AM
Aug 2017

Which is strange coming from someone who couldn't possibly have interacted with him here since you registered less than 6 months ago. As for me I've been friend with him on FB for many years. Maybe that's where you had some heated exchanges with Will?

Generic Other

(28,982 posts)
372. Pitt is not a Nazi
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:53 PM
Aug 2017

And I refuse to throw this ugly word around lightly. You should be ashamed to do so as well.

Because there ARE real Nazis. Real racists. And they are laughing at us and plotting to harm us.

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
90. Can't find the info
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 07:28 PM
Aug 2017

.....that he supported Trump. Do you have a link?

I know he criticized HRC, as did many in the primary, but is there a statement of active support for Trump by Pitt?

I've googled etc. and it's not turning up.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
133. He proclaimed openly in an article he would not vote for Hillary
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:03 PM
Aug 2017

ergo, he supported Trump and is a Nazi.

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
174. Not supporting Hillary
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:26 PM
Aug 2017

...does not a nazi make. Lots of Democratic voters stayed home. They are not nazis.

Let's not diminish the horror of nazism.

Beartracks

(12,967 posts)
191. Agreed. Saying all non-Hillary voters are Nazis dilutes the meaning of that word.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:02 AM
Aug 2017

Look at the horrors Nazis inflicted on the world 80 years ago. The absolute evil of their actions. And now we're supposed to equate a bad voting decision with that level of atrocity?

No, thanks.

=================

 

LovesPNW

(65 posts)
287. How dare your say such a thing
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 10:06 AM
Aug 2017

Will has been at the vanguard of anti-fascist opinion since before DU even existed.

Sorry, but you don't have the gravitas to criticize or condemn Will out of hand with a slander and a lie.

Will was a leading voice in DU against the IWR and Dubya's Iraq adventure.

You were nowhere to be seen.

So, put that in your pipe and smoke it!

brush

(55,060 posts)
20. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HILLARY. HE'S BEEN BANNED FROM THE SITE.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:10 PM
Aug 2017

Stop violating the terms of service. Value what he has to say on your own.

brush

(55,060 posts)
479. One more time. The guy has been banned. Among other vile things he did here is threaten to kill...
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 10:21 PM
Aug 2017

another poster.

brush

(55,060 posts)
510. Check the other responses to the thread. Apparently you weren't here when he spewed his vileness
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:00 PM
Aug 2017

You'll find your answers there.

mcar

(42,885 posts)
70. Why do you value what he says?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 06:35 PM
Aug 2017

He is responsible for this mess. He actively campaigned against the Democratic nominee.

Beringia

(4,350 posts)
93. I value what he says
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 07:30 PM
Aug 2017

because he is a close watcher of what goes on in politics and I believe he has a good mind.

LibraLiz1973

(8,197 posts)
150. his good mind told him to be a shithead which helped get Trump elected, so...
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:30 PM
Aug 2017

WRP is no ally. He is not for the DEMOCRATS. And this is DEMOCRATIC underground, so...

Ninsianna

(1,352 posts)
521. He voted for Trump, encouraged others to do so, if he truly did vote for Bernie in the
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:42 PM
Aug 2017

general, then YES he voted for Trump. Writing in invalid votes elected Trump.

Last time I checked Trump was a nazi.

Or you could just stop with refighting the primary and lying about what this person did, and the mad man his moronic campaign to convince idiots to throw away their votes elected a damned Nazi.

You could stop with the personal attacks and the lying about what this man and Jill Stein and every Nazi enabler did.

Last time I checked, I never said the thing you falsely accused me of.

Stop the lying.

WoonTars

(694 posts)
528. No matter how you twist and spin it, he wrote down the name 'Bernie Sanders'
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 05:14 PM
Aug 2017

Enough with the lies. You are stating something that is utterly false on its face.

I have attacked NO-ONE.

Ninsianna

(1,352 posts)
558. No matter how one lies to twist and spin and attack those who point out that
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 01:33 AM
Aug 2017

ANY idiot who wrote in invalid candidates and encouraged other idiots to do the same, it's beyond a doubt that these were a campaign of votes for Trump. He voted in Trump, because as anyone with a functioning brain cell knew, Bernie Sanders was not a valid candidate, having lost the nomination. HE asked everyone who followed him and believed in him to vote for Hillary. The most profoundly stupid ignored Bernie and wrote him in anyway.

Enough with the projection, the dishonest, the ad hominems and the statements that are false in every way, the lying needs to stop, as do the attacks.

This Pitt person and his minions dumb enough to listen to him gave us Trump, there is no defense for this idiocy. No amount of personal attacks against me for stating that undeniable fact will change his complicity and those of his defenders against what they did.

WoonTars

(694 posts)
559. I'm not the one lying.
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 11:33 AM
Aug 2017

He wrote in 'Bernie Sanders'. Last time i checked 'Donald Trump' isn't spelled B-E-R-N-I-E S-A-N-D-E-R-S....

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and the EC votes in his home state so he therefore had NOTHING to do with Dump getting elected.

Oh, and btw, I'm STILL not attacking you...

obamanut2012

(26,426 posts)
27. And he publicly advocated not to vote for Hillary
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:17 PM
Aug 2017

He is pompous as hell, and I am ashamed I ever thought he had anything of merit to say. He also called Obama a POS on here, and threatened to murder another DUer for no reason.

I also don;t think he is a great writer

sheshe2

(84,917 posts)
40. Remember why he called Obama POSUCS?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:25 PM
Aug 2017

He never researched Obamacare for his wife's vital meds when he moved to NH. He blamed Obama for denying her Meds then voted for a man that is taking away her meds.

Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #27)

mahina

(18,136 posts)
387. Could you please provide a link showing Will advocating for people not to vote for Hillary?
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 03:48 PM
Aug 2017

I never saw any evidence of that.

Are you sure that is correct? I'm sure it is not. I definitely recall him saying if the race was close in NH that he would vote for Hillary.

I proudly voted for Hillary by the way and advocated for her after she won the primary.

Whatever you think of his writing is your business. The rest of your post will need to wait for another day when I'm not so far behind to respond. Peace to you and to all beings.




phylny

(8,429 posts)
115. Now I remember that I forgot to set a block where his name appears in the title
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 08:07 PM
Aug 2017

of the thread. I think I'll do it now.

LibraLiz1973

(8,197 posts)
146. Agreed. He actively worked against Hillary which means
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:28 PM
Aug 2017

he is just one more human partially responsible for this fucking mess.

ecstatic

(33,138 posts)
256. +1000. Was about to hide thread without even looking inside
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 10:56 PM
Aug 2017

but I'm glad to see others feel the same way.

sheshe2

(84,917 posts)
10. He is a banned poster here.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:05 PM
Aug 2017

There is no place for his articles on a Democratic Site. He made his choice, he stated clearly that he would NOT VOTE FOR CLINTON.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
11. Wasn't around for that. What was his justification?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:06 PM
Aug 2017