Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:29 PM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
Help me out -- looking for quotes of center-lefties condemning antifa . .
What I read online tells me that, on the whole, the US center-left denounces antifas as thugs and punks. What I haven't been able to do is come up with references to anyone of note -- commentators or politicians -- saying so.
Recommendations?
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MrModerate | Aug 2017 | OP |
David__77 | Aug 2017 | #1 | |
MrModerate | Aug 2017 | #7 | |
leftstreet | Aug 2017 | #2 | |
MrModerate | Aug 2017 | #6 | |
Hell Hath No Fury | Aug 2017 | #3 | |
MrModerate | Aug 2017 | #5 | |
bettyellen | Aug 2017 | #4 | |
Bettie | Aug 2017 | #8 | |
MrModerate | Aug 2017 | #9 | |
LanternWaste | Aug 2017 | #10 | |
bluepen | Aug 2017 | #11 | |
MrModerate | Aug 2017 | #12 | |
MrModerate | Aug 2017 | #13 | |
samir.g | Aug 2017 | #14 | |
Mc Mike | Aug 2017 | #15 |
Response to MrModerate (Original post)
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:41 PM
David__77 (21,447 posts)
1. It's time to defend antifa unreservedly.
Sorry - don't have quotes.
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Response to David__77 (Reply #1)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:09 AM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
7. It's time to acknowledge that antifas are no friend to progressives/Dems
Hating hatred is not enough.
To 'defend antifas unreservedly' would be to ignore too much that is destructive and unhelpful in anyone's struggle for justice. |
Response to MrModerate (Original post)
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:42 PM
leftstreet (34,848 posts)
2. I can't fathom why anyone would condemn Anti-Facists right now
maybe that's just me
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Response to leftstreet (Reply #2)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:06 AM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
6. Because they don't espouse Democratic, or even 'democratic' values.
Last edited Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:51 AM - Edit history (1) Hating Nazis and white supremacists isn't enough.
On edit: My 'they' refers specifically to today's antifa, not the less-dodgy anti-fascists of history. |
Response to MrModerate (Original post)
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:59 PM
Hell Hath No Fury (16,327 posts)
3. Cornell West and
and a head of the United Church of Christ who both were present at the rally both said Antifa literally saved their lives from white supremacist marchers who had begun to attack the clergy who were present.
Not a chance I am throwing Antifa under the bus right now. |
Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Reply #3)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:04 AM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
5. Antifas (and their predecessors) have always been anti-white supremacist . . .
Bully for them. Me too. That doesn't forgive their riotous behavior all the other times.
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Response to MrModerate (Original post)
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:10 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
4. I saw a few trolls do that on Twitter? Only those who are always looking for ways to denigrate
"The center" and saying that centrists sound like Trunp.
It's basically revenge of the horseshoe theory. Probably pissed Trump co-opted the schtick about jobs ending racism. That's gotta sting. |
Response to MrModerate (Original post)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:14 AM
Bettie (14,569 posts)
8. Being against Fascism
should be our default state!
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Response to Bettie (Reply #8)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:16 AM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
9. I am a much better advocate against fascism . . .
Than some punk trying to brain another punk with a bicycle lock because he's wearing a red hat.
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Response to MrModerate (Reply #9)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:29 AM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
10. You certainly make many unsupported allegations.
You certainly make many unsupported allegations.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:50 AM
bluepen (620 posts)
11. Looks like he's referring to this:
Excerpt:
The violent clashes between a pro-Trump demonstration and counterprotesters on April 15 turned Berkeley, Calif., into a battleground of activists on the right and left. On a day when dozens were arrested and injured — one man with a weaponized U-lock stood out. Many threw punches. He drew blood. One attack was captured in a profanity-filled video later posted to YouTube. The bike lock flashes through the air and smashes into a man’s head with a thunk. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/29/a-man-clobbered-trump-supporters-with-a-bike-lock-the-internet-went-looking-for-him/?utm_term=.db17acbb78bf |
Response to bluepen (Reply #11)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:48 AM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
12. I saw part of this punch-up from a friend's window. It was Trumper thugs, antifa nihilists . . .
With the mostly-student opponents of the Yiannopolous visit several days earlier largely sitting this one out.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:49 AM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
13. Do tell. n/t
Response to MrModerate (Original post)
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 10:57 AM
samir.g (826 posts)
14. Antifa are the good guys
Response to MrModerate (Original post)
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 11:05 AM
Mc Mike (9,059 posts)