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Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:29 PM

Help me out -- looking for quotes of center-lefties condemning antifa . .

What I read online tells me that, on the whole, the US center-left denounces antifas as thugs and punks. What I haven't been able to do is come up with references to anyone of note -- commentators or politicians -- saying so.

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Reply Help me out -- looking for quotes of center-lefties condemning antifa . . (Original post)
MrModerate Aug 2017 OP
David__77 Aug 2017 #1
MrModerate Aug 2017 #7
leftstreet Aug 2017 #2
MrModerate Aug 2017 #6
Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2017 #3
MrModerate Aug 2017 #5
bettyellen Aug 2017 #4
Bettie Aug 2017 #8
MrModerate Aug 2017 #9
LanternWaste Aug 2017 #10
bluepen Aug 2017 #11
MrModerate Aug 2017 #12
MrModerate Aug 2017 #13
samir.g Aug 2017 #14
Mc Mike Aug 2017 #15

Response to MrModerate (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:41 PM

1. It's time to defend antifa unreservedly.

Sorry - don't have quotes.

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Response to David__77 (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:09 AM

7. It's time to acknowledge that antifas are no friend to progressives/Dems

Hating hatred is not enough.

To 'defend antifas unreservedly' would be to ignore too much that is destructive and unhelpful in anyone's struggle for justice.

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Response to MrModerate (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:42 PM

2. I can't fathom why anyone would condemn Anti-Facists right now

maybe that's just me

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:06 AM

6. Because they don't espouse Democratic, or even 'democratic' values.

Last edited Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Hating Nazis and white supremacists isn't enough.

On edit: My 'they' refers specifically to today's antifa, not the less-dodgy anti-fascists of history.

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Response to MrModerate (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 09:59 PM

3. Cornell West and

 

and a head of the United Church of Christ who both were present at the rally both said Antifa literally saved their lives from white supremacist marchers who had begun to attack the clergy who were present.

Not a chance I am throwing Antifa under the bus right now.

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Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:04 AM

5. Antifas (and their predecessors) have always been anti-white supremacist . . .

Bully for them. Me too. That doesn't forgive their riotous behavior all the other times.

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Response to MrModerate (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 10:10 PM

4. I saw a few trolls do that on Twitter? Only those who are always looking for ways to denigrate

 

"The center" and saying that centrists sound like Trunp.
It's basically revenge of the horseshoe theory. Probably pissed Trump co-opted the schtick about jobs ending racism. That's gotta sting.

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Response to MrModerate (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:14 AM

8. Being against Fascism

should be our default state!

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Response to Bettie (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:16 AM

9. I am a much better advocate against fascism . . .

Than some punk trying to brain another punk with a bicycle lock because he's wearing a red hat.

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Response to MrModerate (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:29 AM

10. You certainly make many unsupported allegations.

 

You certainly make many unsupported allegations.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:50 AM

11. Looks like he's referring to this:

Excerpt:

The violent clashes between a pro-Trump demonstration and counterprotesters on April 15 turned Berkeley, Calif., into a battleground of activists on the right and left. On a day when dozens were arrested and injured ó one man with a weaponized U-lock stood out.

Many threw punches. He drew blood.

One attack was captured in a profanity-filled video later posted to YouTube. The bike lock flashes through the air and smashes into a manís head with a thunk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/29/a-man-clobbered-trump-supporters-with-a-bike-lock-the-internet-went-looking-for-him/?utm_term=.db17acbb78bf

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Response to bluepen (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:48 AM

12. I saw part of this punch-up from a friend's window. It was Trumper thugs, antifa nihilists . . .

With the mostly-student opponents of the Yiannopolous visit several days earlier largely sitting this one out.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:49 AM

13. Do tell. n/t

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Response to MrModerate (Original post)

Sun Aug 20, 2017, 11:57 AM

14. Antifa are the good guys

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Response to MrModerate (Original post)

Sun Aug 20, 2017, 12:05 PM

15. Just too easily infiltrated.

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