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Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:12 PM

Anyone else get the feeling this really is near the end for Trump?

He is FATALLY wounded.

His Tweeting of a train running over a CNN reporter after failing to condemn Nazis including a white supremacist who run over a crowd of people.

Talk of him pardoning a racist sheriff after failing to condemn Nazis and white supremacists.

The exodus of CEOs, including criticism from the CEO of the world's biggest private employer.

He can't help himself. He has no self-control. He listens to nobody. He is not a leader. He is infantile. He is demented. His approval is sinking fast. This is the worst week of his presidency. This story will run and run and more people are waking up to the fact that he has nothing to offer the people of America.

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Reply Anyone else get the feeling this really is near the end for Trump? (Original post)
Doodley Aug 2017 OP
DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #1
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2017 #2
OnDoutside Aug 2017 #3
HipChick Aug 2017 #6
Solly Mack Aug 2017 #8
OnDoutside Aug 2017 #14
spooky3 Aug 2017 #15
Solly Mack Aug 2017 #21
volstork Aug 2017 #23
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #39
spooky3 Aug 2017 #43
titaniumsalute Aug 2017 #38
marylandblue Aug 2017 #4
Kleveland Aug 2017 #10
Doodley Aug 2017 #17
hamsterjill Aug 2017 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #7
cwydro Aug 2017 #9
Books_Tea_Alone Aug 2017 #11
Doodley Aug 2017 #13
mnhtnbb Aug 2017 #12
spooky3 Aug 2017 #19
mnhtnbb Aug 2017 #20
The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #16
smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #18
Doodley Aug 2017 #22
Kimchijeon Aug 2017 #24
Sanity Claws Aug 2017 #25
bluedigger Aug 2017 #26
Books_Tea_Alone Aug 2017 #27
Not Ruth Aug 2017 #28
procon Aug 2017 #29
kentuck Aug 2017 #30
longship Aug 2017 #31
JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #32
L. Coyote Aug 2017 #33
David__77 Aug 2017 #36
L. Coyote Aug 2017 #37
David__77 Aug 2017 #34
spiderpig Aug 2017 #35
Johnny2X2X Aug 2017 #40
OliverQ Aug 2017 #41
theophilus Aug 2017 #42

Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:14 PM

1. Doodley, I have no idea how this ends.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:14 PM

2. Sure. Two years ago. NT

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:15 PM

3. No, not even close. It's not so much about him, it is

the Republicans having the courage to dump him.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:16 PM

6. Exactly....

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:18 PM

8. Yep

And they need him to sign their agenda into law.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:25 PM

14. Yes, they have a balancing act though. Keep him long enough to get

Their stuff enacted, and then dump him, but every day hurts them a little more.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:25 PM

15. Actually, they don't. They could impeach and convict and

Pence would be happy to sign. But Congressional Repubs have zero ethics or concern for the US, and they are too afraid to lose the base.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:29 PM

21. True. Pence would also comply - and they would lose that base.

Excellent point.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:37 PM

23. I suspect more than half

of the KGOP congress is complicit and sullied by Russian ties/kompromat. They are terrified they will be exposed. This is their desperate attempt to hang on to power before they simply hang...

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:28 PM

39. Lucky for us, Pence is as caught in the obstruction issue as Trump.

He lied to investigators about Flynn. Congressional Investigators know it.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #39)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:50 PM

43. I agree with the replies to me. And dixiegrrrrl, I think Pence's up to his eyeballs in other issues

as well. But I don't know if he'll skate--maybe the investigators will focus almost exclusively on Trump.

"Mueller Time" can't come soon enough, and I hope it's not the disappointment that Fitzmas was.

And, technically, the line of succession continues with other Republicans, so taking Pence down will simply mean a delay, with regard to Solly's point about someone signing off on the Repub. agenda (another reason why the midterms are so important).

My point was just that they do NOT have to stick with Trump in order to get their agenda enacted. But they will continue to do so as long as they fear losing the base, being exposed as being entangled in all the Russian deals themselves, etc.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 03:27 PM

38. Yeah except Republicans listen to their masters...the CEOs and their lobbyists

So this is getting more interesting.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:15 PM

4. Maybe, but I've felt that way before

It's more like the death of a thousand cuts. There is no one fatal wound.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:20 PM

10. Best reply here....

That is exactly how I feel about it.

I can't get my hopes up, until he is toes up.

And nature may take its good old time.....

Only the good die young.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:26 PM

17. I think his brain is shot. He could not function as a teaboy, let alone

president. He understands nothing. That is what his Tweeting is telling us.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:16 PM

5. As much as I'd like to think that, I don't think we are near the end.

I think the end is going to be prolonged and agonizing. Mueller is actually only beginning in my opinion.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:17 PM

7. I'd like to think so, but

until GOP members of Congress no longer fear repercussions from Trump's racist base, nothing is likely to happen.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:19 PM

9. Been reading posts predicting the end since the beginning of his candidacy.

So no.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:21 PM

11. Agree, but..

How much damage will he inflict at the end? He is all about himself and protecting his dwindling fortune and evil spawn at all costs. I agree he is finished politically and will never recover but still 1 out of every 3 Americans still support him and most of them are probably armed.

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Response to Books_Tea_Alone (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:23 PM

13. Good points. Maybe his approval needs to drop into the twenties

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:21 PM

12. As long as 75% of Republicans are supporting him and Congress is controlled by Republicans

the only thing that will get him is an indictment for a criminal charge, IMO. He won't be impeached by Republicans.
The Cabinet will not invoke Section 4 of the 25th Amendment. He won't resign.

So what other option is there?

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:27 PM

19. I agree with your first pgh but wonder if people may misinterpret

Your second as a threat. You may want to reword in case Agent Mike is watching.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:29 PM

20. I bet Agent Mike has been really busy these last few months.

I thought about the wording and changed it. I'm not in the mood for a visit from Agent Mike.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:25 PM

16. The Russia problem isn't going away either.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:26 PM

18. I feel like he continues to spiral down, but I just don't have any idea where the bottom is.

He can inflict so much damage in such a short period of time, that the end for him may not be soon enough for us.

I think he's closer to losing it than he has ever been. Our best hope is that he will have a complete mental breakdown or a physical breakdown and need to leave office for health reasons. I don't know what it's going to take for the republicans to start turning on him, but he drags them down more and more every day.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:32 PM

22. That is the way I feel. I think his decline is accelerating. He has

little understanding of any issues. He cannot control his outbursts. He has to be handled every step of the way and always have family members nearby because he knows so little and fears so much. He cannot function and has to have babysitters to watch over him, and the signs are that this is only getting worse.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:38 PM

24. Nah

the corporations/big money likes the distraction-clown so he stays. as long as they profit, us peasants are just kinda fucked.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:39 PM

25. He will not go quietly

He would prefer to start a civil war or a nuclear war, rather than resign or face impeachment.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:42 PM

26. Well, either Trump or The Republic has to go.

They seem to be incompatible.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:42 PM

27. Bottom line Voting in every single election

I will never ever, ever, sit out any election. No matter how small-down to school board elections.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:43 PM

28. It is all up to Mueller

 

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:51 PM

29. No, not the end, but he's definitely feeling the heat.

I do think that there are many roads that are converging towards some sort of a spectacular finale for Trump, but that might not be a good thing. We have multiple investigation yet to be concluded. Trump's tweets are increasingly unhinged causing him nothing but heartburn. Trump routinely bashes foreign leaders, both our opponents and allies alike, and that can't be ignored. Trump has threatened multiple countries with war and now nuclear annihilation, and that too, won't go unchallenged forever. Trump's lack of legislative accomplishments, the utter chaos of his entire administration and his failure to perform the most basic functions of government, will only get worse.

Something huge will break that will either take Trump down, or he will do something so outrageous that the country will struggle to right itself even as the incompetent GOP fumbles to explain it away. The question is which will happen first?

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:52 PM

30. He must feel like the walls are closing in.

Mueller is reportedly going to interview a few people in the West Wing, perhaps this week?

Who received those emails that were reported on in the Wash Post last night?

Somebody is going to sing.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:53 PM

31. Every damned day since he rode that fucking escalator!

But that was many moons ago. In the interim I have disabused myself from being so optimistic.

We have a rather tough row to hoe, my good friends.

Keep digging in.


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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:54 PM

32. No - I think early next year

And he will not go gently into that goodnight.

However, I agree with marylandblue - it's death by a thousand cuts.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 02:59 PM

33. Gets worse by the day, doesn't seem it can last much longer.

Republicans are feeling the gloom of their disintegration, and must be thinking 25 45.


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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #33)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 03:04 PM

36. He was very generous to Trump.

Trump knows fascists support him and repeatedly signals his solidarity to them.

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Response to David__77 (Reply #36)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 03:12 PM

37. The members know who the secret Grand Wizard is!

The Occam's Razor explanation at this point, he's the secret leader of the whole damn klan.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 03:00 PM

34. Not at all. He's president.

Why would he quit?

I don't see the Senate or his VP and cabinet removing him. The Democratic Party hasn't even called for that.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 03:03 PM

35. Based on how he sounds during this infrastructure speech

he's already gone far round the bend now.

He's blathering, going off-script, and breathing hard.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:29 PM

40. No

We've been saying that for months and months. It just keeps getting worse, but the GOP still supports him.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:31 PM

41. Nope, because no matter how much the GOP lashes out on twitter over this.

 

They won't impeach or demand his resignation. We keep saying this has to be the end every time he does something outrageous, and yet he still gets away with it.


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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:34 PM

42. Unfortunately, with Russia, North Korea, and Iran it is just as likely

that, soon, we may come to the end of many millions of "us". This is an existential threat in the hands of this megalomaniac, imo.

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