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Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:33 PM

An American tourist gave the Nazi salute in Germany so a stranger beat him up, police say

Excellent - kick the shit outta him! This salute should be banned in the US too IMO!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/08/13/an-american-tourist-gave-the-nazi-salute-in-germany-so-a-stranger-beat-him-up-police-say/

An American tourist in Germany was beaten up by a passer-by after he began giving the Nazi salute outside a cafe in Dresden, police said Sunday.

The incident occurred about 8:15 a.m. Saturday as the man left a cafe called Europe in the Neustadt district of Dresden, police said in a statement. The district is known to be a liberal part of the town and a popular meeting spot for students.

The tourist was identified only as a 41-year-old American man who was “severely drunk,” according to police. He suffered minor injuries, while the stranger who assailed him fled the scene, police said.

Police said the U.S. national is under investigation for violating German laws prohibiting Nazi symbols and that they are still seeking the passer-by for causing personal injury, according to the Associated Press.

The Nazi salute — the right arm straight and angled slightly up, palm down — was used as a greeting and a way of expressing devotion to Adolf Hitler under the Third Reich. Germany outlawed the salute after World War II, along with Holocaust denial and other symbols and signals associated with the Nazis. A conviction can carry a prison sentence of up to three years, although courts often impose fines instead.

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RKP5637 Aug 2017 OP
dhill926 Aug 2017 #1
GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #3
american_ideals Aug 2017 #2
lpbk2713 Aug 2017 #4
Calculating Aug 2017 #5
CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #6
JI7 Aug 2017 #8
Vermijelli Aug 2017 #7
mountain grammy Aug 2017 #9

Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:43 PM

1. yep...the salute should be classified as hate speech....

and punished appropriately....

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:46 PM

3. Hate speech is totally legal in the US

As are hateful guestures.

Thank god for the 1st amendment.

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:06 PM

2. Stop the salutes, but nonviolently

Dr. King's great insight: Embracing peace, and disavowing violence, wins in the long run

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029455909

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:54 PM

4. Not a really smart thing to do in Dresden.




It's not a good idea to bring back any memories of WW-II.

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:58 PM

5. Times like this I'm glad we have the 1st ammendment

How the hell can you get years in jail or fines over simply lifting your arm in a certain way or saying saying certain political beliefs? I'm not saying that it's right to be a Nazi or racist, but making that speech/expression illegal doesn't seem very just either. They should be free to say their vile thoughts, and us normal people should be free to ridicule them and have nothing to do with them.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 08:02 PM

6. I suspect that the Germans have outlawed this and other Nazi attributes since they suffered so much.

They do not want to have any part of their society taking part in what was very painful for the country as a whole.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:27 PM

8. there is good reason for it as seen in the history . it's not like they are being tortured

 

and sent to death camps.

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:21 PM

7. Sad to see the defense of vigilantism

 

In the other threads. It's quite a deep, dark rabbit hole to go down.

He broke another nation's laws, so I have no sympathy in that respect. But let their law enforcement deal with it.

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:35 PM

9. With a nod to the First Amendment

I think all symbols of the confederacy should have been banned after the Civil War, certainly anything on public property involving any use of taxpayer money.

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