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Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:05 PM

THEY ARE NAZIS

Not Alt-right.

Not White Nationalists.

They don't need a new name - THEY ARE NAZIS.

The some evil scum the entire world came together to defeat 70 years ago.. my dad and uncles included.

These alternate names they go by now doesn't change the fact of who they really are and I want to scream in everyone's face who even suggests a different name than NAZI.

Every instance of those softer terms needs a call out when you see it on Facebook, Twitter - wherever. They are not victims - they are the faces for true evil.

Call them out for what they are. Thankfully DU seems to get this but I'm seeing way too much of this on facebook, etc..

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Reply THEY ARE NAZIS (Original post)
nini Sunday OP
Turbineguy Sunday #1
Dark n Stormy Knight Sunday #2
nini Sunday #6
Mr.Bill Sunday #15
calimary Sunday #37
raven mad Sunday #48
Bernardo de La Paz Monday #56
Mc Mike Sunday #3
Kogaratsu72 Sunday #4
sarisataka Sunday #17
Kogaratsu72 Sunday #36
Persondem Sunday #39
SharonClark Sunday #5
nini Sunday #7
CanonRay Sunday #13
Srkdqltr Sunday #24
loyalsister Sunday #25
neeksgeek Sunday #8
kairos12 Sunday #14
steve2470 Sunday #26
Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #30
rogerashton Sunday #45
LiberalBrooke Sunday #33
matt819 Sunday #9
Saviolo Sunday #10
nini Sunday #41
area51 Sunday #11
Iggo Sunday #23
demigoddess Sunday #12
Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #16
spanone Sunday #18
Kentonio Sunday #19
steve2470 Sunday #20
Iggo Sunday #21
nini Sunday #42
Iggo Sunday #43
nini Sunday #46
Coventina Sunday #22
loyalsister Sunday #27
George II Sunday #28
bullimiami Sunday #29
Eyeball_Kid Sunday #32
Eyeball_Kid Sunday #31
underpants Sunday #34
L. Coyote Sunday #35
Nitram Sunday #38
smirkymonkey Sunday #40
AntiFascist Sunday #44
dalton99a Sunday #47
Skittles Sunday #49
nini Sunday #52
The Velveteen Ocelot Sunday #53
nini Sunday #54
Hong Kong Cavalier Sunday #55
ck4829 Sunday #50
Best_man23 Sunday #51

Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:16 PM

1. Indeed.

Last edited Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:19 PM - Edit history (1)

The reality is that all those who died in WWII fighting Hitler, died for nothing.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:20 PM

2. I have a simple reply tweet to the "Alt-right" "White Nationalists" on Twitter:

Fuck off, Nazi scum.


I know, it's not exactly polite. I guess I'm just outta control.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:21 PM

6. That works just fine

The don't deserve an ounce of respect.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:09 PM

15. I like that.

I troll a few right wing threads posing as a centrist. I may use that one to get kicked off them before the day is over.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:59 PM

37. Sure works for me.

It has the added advantage of being TRUE.

If the name fits, let them WEAR IT. Just like they proudly wear their helmets, jackboots, and swastika arm bands. If it looks like a Nazi, dresses like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, acts like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, then what the hell else is it, then? Sure as hell ain't no duck.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 08:34 PM

48. I'll add my HELL YES! to this.

My dad and dad-in-law would crawl out of their graves to fight modern-day Nazi scum. They kicked ass once (dad, Army Air Corps, dad-in-law, Navy) and would do it again.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:40 AM

56. Call them suckers and/or losers. They really don't like that, dislike more than "scum" (expect that)


Fuck off, Nazi sucker.


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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:20 PM

3. Yeah.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:21 PM

4. I'd like to disageee

Thé nazi's were quite thé men, 70 years ago. They took europe by surprise and with á deadly efficiency. I still hear thé stories, my grandfather told me, how 120000 German soldiers paraded into Brussels in rows of twelve. And their boots only sounded as one. Your scumbags are not one percent of that. And please do not think i have any sympathy with any of those bastards. Me myself is á retiered ranger, and my family fought thé germans twice with high honors.

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Response to Kogaratsu72 (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:22 PM

17. Look at these Nazi's as

a new Sturmabteilung. Cheap, expendable thugs that, like the SA, will be discarded once they have served their purpose.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #17)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:57 PM

36. Yup

Probably. Á brave new world, stuck in repeat.

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Response to Kogaratsu72 (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:16 PM

39. I would suggest that you are refering to the German Army

An organization that prided itself on efficiency and professionalism. While some, even many, were undoubtedly nazis, they are not the same as the SA or your politically motivated national socialist of the day.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:21 PM

5. Don't scream in my face but why not use the more accurate phrase 'white supremacists?

Nazi has a specific historical meaning relating to the National Socialist German Workers' Party that controlled Germany under Hitler.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:22 PM

7. Ignore is your friend

I'm gonna scream if I want to scream

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:58 PM

13. That sounds too intellectual.

Like they came to some intellectual decision that whites are superior. They are Nazi scum.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:30 PM

24. Nazi

If they carry the flag and wear the swag if it walks like a duck ..... You know how this goes.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:35 PM

25. That's really important

You wind up with some may be NAZIs but at least most of them are just white supremacists. White nationalism is about race and religion. There should be no opportunity to distinguish between them.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:35 PM

8. They clearly identify as Nazis.

They give the Nazi salute.

They use Nazi iconography.

They openly admire Nazi "heroes."

They spew Nazi hatred.

They violently attack minorities.

So!

They can call themselves whatever they like.

They are still Nazis.

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Response to neeksgeek (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:02 PM

14. The were chanting "Blood and Soil" Friday night. That is a chant from the Nazi era of Germany.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:37 PM

26. exactly nt

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:41 PM

30. Driver Fields carried Vanguard (bloodandsoil.org) fascist shield


(on edit: fixed title, added Southern Poverty Law Center links)


Guide to symbols: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/flags-and-other-symbols-used-far-right-groups-charlottesville
Jason Kessler: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jason-kessler


In the center, with symbol actually upside down (axes typically up):



Austin:


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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #30)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:00 PM

45. I had not realized until I saw that picture

that their shields had the Fasces on them -- origin of the tern "Fascist."

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Response to neeksgeek (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:52 PM

33. I agree.

Don't let them whitewash what they are by coining the name alt-right. I just all them nazis

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:44 PM

9. Premise: republicans are vile

Some spoke out against yesterday's actions. But words are meaningless without action to back them up. By way of example, trumps words are meaningless because they are backed up by just about the opposite action.

So, Republicans, it's time to purge not only voter rolls but your own membership rolls. Purge your party of Legislators, federal, state, and local, who have backed the Nazi movement in America. Force them to support American ideals or the ideals of the most genocidal movement in world history. This is not an "everyone does it" issue. This is an existential movement for the Republican Party and for America overall. Trump has purged the White House of all vestiges of mainstream republicanism. It's long past time for you to disassociate yourself from the tacit leader of the Nazi movement in the United States. As others have observed, if you don't, you own it.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:44 PM

10. "Alt-Right" is a marketing term to sanitize their image

It is time to strike "alt-right" from our vocabulary.

But I disagree on "White Nationalist." I think that's a dirty dirty word too, and I don't mind sticking it to those disgusting ideologues.

My thoughts here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029449122

Don't let them disguise themselves behind a buzz word as banal as "alt-right." Richard Spencer and the Brietbart set can own their movement with all of their ideologies spelled out. Breitbart isn't alt-right, it's white nationalist, white supremacist, racist, and neo-nazi.

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Response to Saviolo (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:38 PM

41. 'sanitize their image'

Exactly.. that's what's making me crazy about all these terms being used for those idiots.

There is no white washing of who they are at their cores.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:46 PM

11. It's time for a Dead Kennedys vid:

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Response to area51 (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:29 PM

23. You'll be the first to go...

...unless you think.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:53 PM

12. My father fought in WWII, my Uncle fought in WWII, I will not

allow the fascists and Nazis they fought against to win this one. I hope all the younger people will join in a fight them now.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:21 PM

16. Trumpanzees claiming Nazi fascists are socialist & therefore are left & democrats. . nt

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:23 PM

18. yep, no sugar coating. evil fuck nazis

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:24 PM

19. If the fucks want to dress up and play nazi

They don't get to cry about being called Nazis.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:25 PM

20. agreed, totally! nt

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:27 PM

21. You mean they're not really the "White Working Class"???

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Response to Iggo (Reply #21)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:39 PM

42. Yea.. that's another thing that is setting my hair on fire

We're supposed to reach out to them. hell no.

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Response to nini (Reply #42)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:43 PM

43. Couldn't believe they were trying to float that shit.

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Caught on for a minute, too.

Even here.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #43)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:45 PM

46. yea.. I was chastised more than once here for not 'reaching out'

Oh please.. If they show they want to talk and understand - fine. Those people do not want or care what Democrats can do to make their lives better. They chose hate.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:29 PM

22. No, they're just economically anxious.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:39 PM

27. alt right is the name they have chosen

Separating them out as some are NAZIs allows for - there's a small group in the mix insulting my grandpa who fought in WWII. But, the rest of them just want to preserve their culture. NAZI are present, white supremacists, Christian identity groups are all in it together.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:40 PM

28. Nazis with red "Make America Great Again" hats.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:41 PM

29. No. They are NAZI wannabes.

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Response to bullimiami (Reply #29)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:50 PM

32. IMO, you shouldn't give them an out, as if they just can't help themselves to pretend,

but haven't made the grade.

They're fucking Nazi fascists.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:48 PM

31. Bannon is a Nazi. Trumpy is a Nazi. Robert Mercer? Nazi.

Nigel Farage? Nazi. Steven Miller? Nazi. Putin??? NAZI.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:52 PM

34. alt right hipster Nazis ...but they are still Nazis

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:52 PM

35. And, they are Trump's Nazis.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:00 PM

38. Yes. They are Nazi scum. The maggots our fathers and grandfathers fought and, in many cases, died

to defeat. Now they fight under various flags, including the Confederate battle flag, but they are the same unrepentant scum we thought had been consigned to the trash pile of history. Like the rotting corpses of the undead, they are making another stand in the belief that the nation's president supports their vile cause.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:26 PM

40. I agree, but whatever we call them, the question is, how do we stop them?

We can't let these people go on in the name of free speech. It's too dangerous under the current political climate. They need to be suppressed by any means possible.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:46 PM

44. The sad fact is that under this weak president who depends on these groups at his core base...


it becomes easier for all of them to rally together under a single moniker.

During the Bush years it was one of the worst insults to label the right-wing as Nazis or fascists. Now, with Young Republicans and others rallying together with the rest of the alt-right, these labels become much more empowering. That belief system can spread like a disease, and we saw how it overtook much of the German population prior to WWII.

These days we have the media and the Internet to help remind us what a true democracy is all about, but they can also be deadly tools when used by the wrong people.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:27 PM

47. They are murderous scum and should be treated as such.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:18 PM

49. my grandfather was on the beaches of Dunkirk

I try to imagine what he would think of these snivelling repuke cowards - he would be disgusted beyond belief

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Response to Skittles (Reply #49)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:36 PM

52. I cannot stop thinking of my dad and uncles who were all in different areas of the globe.

They are spinning in their graves right now.

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Response to nini (Reply #52)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:45 PM

53. My uncle who just passed away this spring

was in the Battle of the Bulge and the liberation of Paris. That whole branch of the family is Republican but I wonder what he would think now?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #53)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:53 PM

54. I would think the men who fought that war even if republican would be appalled

This isn't a difference of how to balance a budget etc.. This is the dismantling of what they fought for on many levels.

My dad would want to go do something I'm sure... even if we had to take him in a wheelchair! God.. I miss him more at times like this.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #49)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:57 PM

55. I had my grandfathers and two great uncles fighting against fascism in that war.

If they were alive now, they'd be first in line to fight 'em again.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:20 PM

50. Adam Lanza and Dylann Roof Wannabes also works

Nazis is fine too though.

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Response to nini (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:35 PM

51. Don't refer to them as "Alt-right" ever

Others not to use: Council of Conservative Citizens (AKA White Collar Klan)

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