THEY ARE NAZIS

[nini]

Not Alt-right.

Not White Nationalists.

They don't need a new name - THEY ARE NAZIS.

The some evil scum the entire world came together to defeat 70 years ago.. my dad and uncles included.

These alternate names they go by now doesn't change the fact of who they really are and I want to scream in everyone's face who even suggests a different name than NAZI.

Every instance of those softer terms needs a call out when you see it on Facebook, Twitter - wherever. They are not victims - they are the faces for true evil.

Call them out for what they are. Thankfully DU seems to get this but I'm seeing way too much of this on facebook, etc..

[Turbineguy]

1. Indeed.

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The reality is that all those who died in WWII fighting Hitler, died for nothing.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

2. I have a simple reply tweet to the "Alt-right" "White Nationalists" on Twitter:

Fuck off, Nazi scum.

I know, it's not exactly polite. I guess I'm just outta control.

[nini]

6. That works just fine

The don't deserve an ounce of respect.

[Mr.Bill]

15. I like that.

I troll a few right wing threads posing as a centrist. I may use that one to get kicked off them before the day is over.

[calimary]

37. Sure works for me.

It has the added advantage of being TRUE.

If the name fits, let them WEAR IT. Just like they proudly wear their helmets, jackboots, and swastika arm bands. If it looks like a Nazi, dresses like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, acts like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, then what the hell else is it, then? Sure as hell ain't no duck.

[raven mad]

48. I'll add my HELL YES! to this.

My dad and dad-in-law would crawl out of their graves to fight modern-day Nazi scum. They kicked ass once (dad, Army Air Corps, dad-in-law, Navy) and would do it again.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

56. Call them suckers and/or losers. They really don't like that, dislike more than "scum" (expect that)

Fuck off, Nazi sucker.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

57. Damn, I just got my "account features" limited by Twitter for calling someone a Nazi!

Not even scum or sucker, just Nazi! They were spewing the "KKK are Democrats" ignorance and claiming that the bastards who beat Deandre Harris were "filthy Democrat antfa."

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So, Trump's and his Nazi friends' "behavior"'on Twitter is fine, but I can't call a Nazi a Nazi? WTF, Twitter?

[Mc Mike]

3. Yeah.

[Kogaratsu72]

4. I'd like to disageee

Thé nazi's were quite thé men, 70 years ago. They took europe by surprise and with á deadly efficiency. I still hear thé stories, my grandfather told me, how 120000 German soldiers paraded into Brussels in rows of twelve. And their boots only sounded as one. Your scumbags are not one percent of that. And please do not think i have any sympathy with any of those bastards. Me myself is á retiered ranger, and my family fought thé germans twice with high honors.

[sarisataka]

17. Look at these Nazi's as

a new Sturmabteilung. Cheap, expendable thugs that, like the SA, will be discarded once they have served their purpose.

[Kogaratsu72]

36. Yup

Probably. Á brave new world, stuck in repeat.

[Persondem]

39. I would suggest that you are refering to the German Army

An organization that prided itself on efficiency and professionalism. While some, even many, were undoubtedly nazis, they are not the same as the SA or your politically motivated national socialist of the day.

[SharonClark]

5. Don't scream in my face but why not use the more accurate phrase 'white supremacists?

Nazi has a specific historical meaning relating to the National Socialist German Workers' Party that controlled Germany under Hitler.

[nini]

7. Ignore is your friend

I'm gonna scream if I want to scream

[CanonRay]

13. That sounds too intellectual.

Like they came to some intellectual decision that whites are superior. They are Nazi scum.

[Srkdqltr]

24. Nazi

If they carry the flag and wear the swag if it walks like a duck ..... You know how this goes.

[loyalsister]

25. That's really important

You wind up with some may be NAZIs but at least most of them are just white supremacists. White nationalism is about race and religion. There should be no opportunity to distinguish between them.

[neeksgeek]

8. They clearly identify as Nazis.

They give the Nazi salute.

They use Nazi iconography.

They openly admire Nazi "heroes."

They spew Nazi hatred.

They violently attack minorities.

So!

They can call themselves whatever they like.

They are still Nazis.

[kairos12]

14. The were chanting "Blood and Soil" Friday night. That is a chant from the Nazi era of Germany.

[steve2470]

26. exactly nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. Driver Fields carried Vanguard (bloodandsoil.org) fascist shield

(on edit: fixed title, added Southern Poverty Law Center links)


Guide to symbols: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/flags-and-other-symbols-used-far-right-groups-charlottesville
Jason Kessler: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jason-kessler


In the center, with symbol actually upside down (axes typically up):



Austin:

[rogerashton]

45. I had not realized until I saw that picture

that their shields had the Fasces on them -- origin of the tern "Fascist."

[LiberalBrooke]

33. I agree.

Don't let them whitewash what they are by coining the name alt-right. I just all them nazis

[matt819]

9. Premise: republicans are vile

Some spoke out against yesterday's actions. But words are meaningless without action to back them up. By way of example, trumps words are meaningless because they are backed up by just about the opposite action.

So, Republicans, it's time to purge not only voter rolls but your own membership rolls. Purge your party of Legislators, federal, state, and local, who have backed the Nazi movement in America. Force them to support American ideals or the ideals of the most genocidal movement in world history. This is not an "everyone does it" issue. This is an existential movement for the Republican Party and for America overall. Trump has purged the White House of all vestiges of mainstream republicanism. It's long past time for you to disassociate yourself from the tacit leader of the Nazi movement in the United States. As others have observed, if you don't, you own it.

[Saviolo]

10. "Alt-Right" is a marketing term to sanitize their image

It is time to strike "alt-right" from our vocabulary.

But I disagree on "White Nationalist." I think that's a dirty dirty word too, and I don't mind sticking it to those disgusting ideologues.

My thoughts here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029449122

Don't let them disguise themselves behind a buzz word as banal as "alt-right." Richard Spencer and the Brietbart set can own their movement with all of their ideologies spelled out. Breitbart isn't alt-right, it's white nationalist, white supremacist, racist, and neo-nazi.

[nini]

41. 'sanitize their image'

Exactly.. that's what's making me crazy about all these terms being used for those idiots.

There is no white washing of who they are at their cores.

[Hieronymus]

58. It was invented by the Nazis to deceive ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
<excerpt>
Paul Gottfried is the first person to use the term "alternative right", when referring specifically to developments within American right-wing politics, in 2008.[5] The term has since gained wide currency with the rise of the so-called "alt-right". White supremacist[6] Richard Spencer coined the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism, and has been accused by some media publications of doing so to excuse overt racism, white supremacism, and neo-Nazism.[1][7] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 US presidential election.[8]

[area51]

11. It's time for a Dead Kennedys vid:

[Iggo]

23. You'll be the first to go...

...unless you think.

[demigoddess]

12. My father fought in WWII, my Uncle fought in WWII, I will not

allow the fascists and Nazis they fought against to win this one. I hope all the younger people will join in a fight them now.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Trumpanzees claiming Nazi fascists are socialist & therefore are left & democrats. . nt

[spanone]

18. yep, no sugar coating. evil fuck nazis

[Kentonio]

19. If the fucks want to dress up and play nazi

They don't get to cry about being called Nazis.

[steve2470]

20. agreed, totally! nt

[Iggo]

21. You mean they're not really the "White Working Class"???

[nini]

42. Yea.. that's another thing that is setting my hair on fire

We're supposed to reach out to them. hell no.

[Iggo]

43. Couldn't believe they were trying to float that shit.

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Caught on for a minute, too.

Even here.

[nini]

46. yea.. I was chastised more than once here for not 'reaching out'

Oh please.. If they show they want to talk and understand - fine. Those people do not want or care what Democrats can do to make their lives better. They chose hate.

[Coventina]

22. No, they're just economically anxious.

[loyalsister]

27. alt right is the name they have chosen

Separating them out as some are NAZIs allows for - there's a small group in the mix insulting my grandpa who fought in WWII. But, the rest of them just want to preserve their culture. NAZI are present, white supremacists, Christian identity groups are all in it together.

[George II]

28. Nazis with red "Make America Great Again" hats.

[bullimiami]

29. No. They are NAZI wannabes.

[Eyeball_Kid]

32. IMO, you shouldn't give them an out, as if they just can't help themselves to pretend,

but haven't made the grade.

They're fucking Nazi fascists.

[Eyeball_Kid]

31. Bannon is a Nazi. Trumpy is a Nazi. Robert Mercer? Nazi.

Nigel Farage? Nazi. Steven Miller? Nazi. Putin??? NAZI.

[underpants]

34. alt right hipster Nazis ...but they are still Nazis

[L. Coyote]

35. And, they are Trump's Nazis.

[Nitram]

38. Yes. They are Nazi scum. The maggots our fathers and grandfathers fought and, in many cases, died

to defeat. Now they fight under various flags, including the Confederate battle flag, but they are the same unrepentant scum we thought had been consigned to the trash pile of history. Like the rotting corpses of the undead, they are making another stand in the belief that the nation's president supports their vile cause.

[smirkymonkey]

40. I agree, but whatever we call them, the question is, how do we stop them?

We can't let these people go on in the name of free speech. It's too dangerous under the current political climate. They need to be suppressed by any means possible.

[AntiFascist]

44. The sad fact is that under this weak president who depends on these groups at his core base...

it becomes easier for all of them to rally together under a single moniker.

During the Bush years it was one of the worst insults to label the right-wing as Nazis or fascists. Now, with Young Republicans and others rallying together with the rest of the alt-right, these labels become much more empowering. That belief system can spread like a disease, and we saw how it overtook much of the German population prior to WWII.

These days we have the media and the Internet to help remind us what a true democracy is all about, but they can also be deadly tools when used by the wrong people.

[dalton99a]

47. They are murderous scum and should be treated as such.

[Skittles]

49. my grandfather was on the beaches of Dunkirk

I try to imagine what he would think of these snivelling repuke cowards - he would be disgusted beyond belief

[nini]

52. I cannot stop thinking of my dad and uncles who were all in different areas of the globe.

They are spinning in their graves right now.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

53. My uncle who just passed away this spring

was in the Battle of the Bulge and the liberation of Paris. That whole branch of the family is Republican but I wonder what he would think now?

[nini]

54. I would think the men who fought that war even if republican would be appalled

This isn't a difference of how to balance a budget etc.. This is the dismantling of what they fought for on many levels.

My dad would want to go do something I'm sure... even if we had to take him in a wheelchair! God.. I miss him more at times like this.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

55. I had my grandfathers and two great uncles fighting against fascism in that war.

If they were alive now, they'd be first in line to fight 'em again.

[ck4829]

50. Adam Lanza and Dylann Roof Wannabes also works

Nazis is fine too though.

[Best_man23]

51. Don't refer to them as "Alt-right" ever

Others not to use: Council of Conservative Citizens (AKA White Collar Klan)